Right S-bahn Trains For Ska

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  1. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    In this suggestion I will suggest the right EMU's that we could see on the S-Bahn line between Düren and Köln Hbf

    In real life the 422 doesn't operate there (like a lot of y'all already knew). The line has the DB BR 423 (can be layered from Haupstrecke München - Augsburg with minor changes interior, sounds and exterior[other seats and S-Bahn Köln]). We also could see as improvement the couple cover that is finally a thing in TSW!

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    Also the DB BR 420 does operates on this line! That one could we also see since TSG is making that one! It will be easier to change minior things now since its still in development. Those don't have the couple covers so it is not needed to implement that on the ET 420.

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    This would add more varaitaty to the route in general and make it more fun and realistic
     
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  2. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely needed because these work S-Bahn Köln S12 S19 Lines
     
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  3. Kappi701

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    For me the changes won‘t have to be done, I‘d be happy if there would be the Munich layers for correct sounds/feeling
     
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  4. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    yeah since their very minior, but it still would be better if they do those changes
     
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  5. drnicktgm#1259

    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    But there we also need new sounds for the Br423 because not all of them sound like the Br423 like in Munich
     
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  6. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, they have different motor sound. Thats why we NEED those (minior)changes for more immersion!
     
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  7. drnicktgm#1259

    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the community could help getting this sound recorded, so that TSG and DTG don't need much work for it to make
     
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  8. drnicktgm#1259

    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    The only thing is, the work they would put in this train would be a waste of money for them, so maybe if they would add the Schnellfahrstrecke Rhein Main including the Köln Bonn Airport branch to Troisdorf, than it would be perfect to add this S Bahn and also some other trains, otherwise we would have the route Cologne Duisburg, with the S11 that goes to Düsseldorf Flughafen and the S6, there are many ways on getting the Br423 Köln edition to the game, with a nice route
     
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  9. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, they already are doing that for the american loco's which is cool! Does the 420 also got other motor sounds?
     
  10. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    Yeah kinda, so they could make an extention with it but that is not an thing yet...
     
  11. CowBoyWolf

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    And the 187 will be getting it soon
     
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  12. drnicktgm#1259

    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know, I only drove once with it, but I don't think so
     
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  13. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    Yes indeed, lets hope very soon since bcs of the sounds i just don't drive it. But its an great loco with here and there some bugs that should be fixed indeed...
     
  14. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    So apperently in the Expesion pack for Schnellfahrstrecke Koln Aachen, will the br 423 be included which is very nice to see! Hope they will now include the Br420 too....
     
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    Shouldn't be to hard to sub it in for more variety
     
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  16. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    Well; sounds, text & interior is different so we'll see how they will do it. Its harder then u think to change a model....
     
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  17. dosto762

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    I don't think TSG will include a S-Bahn Köln livery, as it says on the roadmap that it's just for HMA. It will probably be a layer like the BR422 rather than a modified variant
     
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  18. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    Yeah indeed, but if they do minior changes like they will on the BR423 is can come too! But so long the BR420 is not released it will not indeed...
     
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  19. jolojonasgames

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    Yeah, I'd love to operate both the 423 and the 420 on SKA. Perhaps TSG will include the extra livery, and some SKA services and/or scenarios (don't know what's possible here, since the 423 should already give us all S-bahn services and is an add-on itself, so I expect the 420 to add no new services to this timetable) in one gameplay add-on pack of his own. Perhaps that would be a nice way for hime to make some extra bucks, but I don't know if it is an interesting business oppertunity for him as he is already quite busy, and there are some logistical issues with it (for example, do you have to own the HMA version of the 420 to get the SKA 420 pack? this would reduce the potential customer base, but would make it so that the BR 420 for SKA doesn't have to cost as much as an entire loco, since customers have already payed for the 420 model on HMA, leadin to lower cost and thus more customers.

    The BR 420 on SKA is a nice idea, but I doubt whether we'll ever see it. Perhaps simply as substitution on the 423 timetable once it comes out?
     
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  20. Maik Goltz

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    That would be the easiest and probably only doable thing yet, BUT unfortunately that is not working. Substitution doesn't let you swap a 4 car with a 3 car train at all.
     
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    Forgot about that gnarly issue, that's a shame :(.

    When I started making suggestions for TSW over a year ago I was a very optimistic person that only thought of possibilities, now a year later, I'm only beginning to understand how difficult creating content for TSW and getting the most out of that content is. You as a developer face a lot of challenges, and I have a huge amount of respect for what you do. Onceagain, my compliments on the G6, that musn't have been easy either :).
     
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  22. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    That old S-Bahn livery will not be included anymore... Since there isn't any old era route in TSW...
     
  23. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    Yeah indeed, so u should already need to make an second version of it and iirc that is harder then people think, its not just remove 1 wagon between it
     
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  25. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    Oh alright! But not sure if they still worked on the livery or if it still a thing. Its could indeed be used then if its not gone yet!
     
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