Since the last patch fixed kamakaze roach taking huge boilies on size 6 and 4 rigs its now pretty hard to catch anything with a float set up. On most lakes its got much tougher to get a take and on some (like foundry dock) its nigh on impossible. Added to this is the added downer that the only fish that you now seem to catch on a float set-up are the tiddlers. The float set up has got so worthless that in most of my tacklebox set up's I've replaced it with a 3rd ledger rod which I find quite sad as the mechanics of this game have fish hooking themselves on all ledger set up's so you just haul your bait out and reel in whatever takes it. None of that messing about keeping a tight line and setting the hook at the right time. I'm not sure how true to life this is as my only RL ledger fishing was with a swimfeeder or an Arsley bomb and a swing or quiver tip and with all of those set ups you had to keep a tight line and strike at the appropriate time but maybe carp rigs do set the hook when the fish takes the bait. I have never used one IRL. Something wonderful lies dead in the water so I propose a moments silence as we doff our cloth caps and mourn the demise of float fishing.