Train Sim World 3 Rivet Games Uk Route Expansion Pack Speculation

Hello everyone just woke up this morning (9th December) to check the roadmap. I read the roadmap of courses but something surprised me. It said after rivet games realse their new route for tsw 3 they'll be realising a uk route expansion pack for a route which is currently coded as 3.GAA-E69 01. So I've created this so we can discuss our speculations for what rivet games might be realising. So fill free to add your speculations below just please don't be volgur or rude towards others becuase of there suggestions thanks and let's start speculating.

 

It's iow steam railway I think - there's evidence supporting its steam

 

The route code is set to 1990-2010 and the only route rivet has made during that era is wcl I believe. Unless the year is irrelevant

 

What about Cathcart? DTG route but I believe Rivet helped with it... if their new route is Scotland maybe they are working on a Scottish train that could be added to both routes?

 

Unless there planning on the route expansion pack to change the era of the route so an example WCL to WCL 20120 etc.

 

It's not a new loco. It was confirmed in stream that an expansion pack is a gameplay pack like diesel legends using existing locomotives. So it's most likely going to be the jubilee or 8f

 

A steam timetable for WCL using SoS locos seems most likely.

 

I think it could be either a diseil era Cathcart circle or a gwr wcl.

 

Nope. The route code (GAA-E6-01) is a steam locomotive. G being Great Britain and AA being steam. So it will use either the jubilee or the 8f from sos or both on a route with scenarios and its own timetable.

 

GWR WCL would be infinitely better than what we’re getting.

 

Maybe they finally fixing the mess that’s the class 150/2 nothing like a sprinter train

 

Could the expansion pack be created by Rivet for a route they didn't create?

If you include DTG routes, the Jubilee and 8F would have worked on two routes back in the day, Northern Trans Pennine and Birmingham Cross City.

 

Could be ntp as you wouldn't have to change a lot just add the steam locos and wsr class 47 to recreate the 60s for example.

 

Could be an expansion to go along with Rivets New Route!

 

Sadly that will have to wait because this expansion is steam.

 

that would be pretty lazy though

 

Well, that's the whole point of an expansion pack. It is just added gameplay with a separate timetable and scenarios. It's not a loco or route dlc.

 

lucasfor49 I feel like it could be the IOW steam railway which would really cool. It'd been even cooler if it was an IOW 2022 expansion with all new steam locos like on the IOW steam railway.

 

If it was the IOW steam railway it would be a new route DLC and if it had new trains it would be a route DLC or a loco DLC. This is going to be neither, it’s a gameplay pack for an existing route using trains from SoS, the only steam trains available.

 

It could be an expansion for WSR that would add the jubilee and 8f to it with more services.

 

I think TSW Nathan derek#2931 and meee would be very interested in this comment. But it could be an extension for the Cathcart Circle Line. As we can see in this image I have made 2 red circles which I think is a shortcut between Newton and Glasgow
If so it would add non stop services which go between the 2 places.

 

Hmmmmmmmm.
Yes please....
With the Class 380?

 

That's not the point of an enhancement pack. There are no new locos or track in an enhancement pack. If it was an extension it would say extension, not expansion

 

What they really should do is introduce diesel to Liverpool to crewe and breathe some life into it.

My moneys on wcl.

 

Like 40s and 47s and other stuff.

 

Yea the class 40 came into service around the time. The class 45 also the class 20 and class 52. I think I remember someone saying the lines were electrified not long after the year sos is set in. I don't know why dtg didn't set it a few years later. It could have been so much more.

 

Probably down to the reference material they had access to. It's difficult getting reference material for much older content. They really had to go find stuff from magazines, postcards, help from the preservation society or whoever they are, etc.

 

We know rivet is steam and modern da? No idea why glasgow is relevant as that definitely modern day doesn't run steam... iow would only work with an extension which is off the table likely do that leaves wcl... does it use steam?

 

Unless it can go on other routes then a lot of routes are on the table

 

I can see this being the GWR 57xx Duck GWR 14xx Oliver with 8F LMS Jubliee. Better Yet LMS Jubilee 8F & Ivatt 2MT Arthur. Note that LMS Ivatt 2MT can form the shape for 4MT Belle

 

It took me a few minutes to find some archive videos of crewe works in the 1960s and that's without the money or resources of dtg.

If I had a couple of days and a few hundred quid I could probably find a lot more.

 

Honestly speaking, i wish dtg set the Liverpool-Crewe route in the br electrics era (60s-70s) we could’ve gotten the first, second gens of electric locos and even the APT, APT would’ve been DLC. I would take a newly electrified part of the route over its steam counterpart.

 

Yeah definitely. Could have had a mixture of steam diesel and electric. Dtg could have been rolling out loco dlc for months on this one route.

 

I'm willing to bet 50 Euros that it's a steam loco on Penzance route

 

Thinking about the IOW, that would be good but as has been pointed out I don't think so. What are the odds in it involving London? Why is a route in Scotland classed as Scottish but not referred to as British/UK?

 

Same as why Wales isn't classed as British UK and Northern Ireland. We are, are own countries but we are part of the same kingdom. We have our own networks.

 

This is a train game thread not a geopolitical historical thread...

 

I think the point is why are the English routes classed as UK/British routes but the scottish route is classed as a scottish route rather than UK/British which is a fair point.

 

Generally the people of Scotland tend to like being referred to as Scottish rather than British (for many reasons that usually end up in arguments on this forum, so let’s not go there again) and this also happens with anything in Scotland also being referred to as Scottish, such as a railway route. It’s still UK though but it is helpful to everyone as an extra geographical pointer to where the routes are within the UK.

For any people who are confused by the actual countries that lie within The British Isles, and their geographical or political names, there is a very good explanation on this Wiki page…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminology_of_the_British_Isles

 

Personally, I would like for it to be called a Scottish route if it's a Scottish route being developed on the roadmap and not a UK route. It gives you more of an idea of what to expect and yes...us Scots don't really like being referred to as British.

 

Agree with the fact that the whole UK/British route identification should be got rid of and routes should be English routes or Scottish routes etc as I have always seen myself as English rather than British to so I see where you're coming from.

 

completely agree. I have no beef with Scots wanting Scottish routes but at the same time I'd like English routes to be referred to as such it also seems pointless referring to UK routes when the UK isn't even represented for example Wales and N. Ireland. And also it would be less confusing for foreigners, you either use the individual country or the umbrella term, not both. That just seems daft to me.

 

I agree with you, every network has it's own identity. Now if only someone could inform DTG who insist on calling English routes British eh?

 

That would be great

 

yeah. I believe DTG originally wanted SoS to be set in 1952 but as most of the reference material was taken around 1958, they decided to set in to 1958 instead

 

Iam thinking this as well ,could then better just add it as a railtour.

 

Heres the thing though, how many routes currently in game are somewhat correct for the Jubilles and the 8Fs? I don't think they were ever seen coming GWML so GWE and WCL are out. WSR might get away with it being a heritage railway (I'm hoping it'll be WSR).. UNLESS Its an expanstion for Rivet's new AC British route..

 

yes it's possible with class 43 in gwr livery and 150 the only thing rivet has to do is change the inside and a new livery

 

It's steam. It's not Desil. The code says steam.