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Roadmap Update 15 September 2020

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  1. DTG Protagonist

    DTG Protagonist Community Manager Staff Member

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    You can read the full update here.

    Use this thread for any feedback and discussion you may have.
     
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  2. matjamca

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    Cool to see IOW in the next release, albeit with no date as yet. Fingers crossed it’ll come in the next two weeks.

    In the released section you note [Unlisted Fix] Game hangs on loading screen.

    However, the game still hangs on the loading screen. It took me nearly a minute to get into the game yesterday.

    The baby bullet interlocking issue on the HUD also remains.
     
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  3. jeanmarc094

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    happy for Méditerranée: Marseille - Avignon. With SNCF TGV Duplex
     
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  4. DB628

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    TGV Duplex is Listening since day One for TSW 2, but it always need too long to adding route and Loco DLCs into the game
     
  5. Jannerdunk

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    The red traction box issue on the baby bullet has not been fixed despite you saying it has.

    Given how many issues are being reported on the technical forums, it's disappointing that only a few bug fixes are listed on this latest version of the roadmap, which I take to mean, everything else is being ignored.
     
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    It's a pity, additions compatible with SKA will not come together (MSB -> RRO). Important, something's going on :)
     
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  7. matjamca

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    Nice to see Wembley Stadium and the Shard coming to Bakerloo Line on consoles.
     
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  8. DB628

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    Rapid Transit should delayed and change with Rhein Ruhr Osten for available time Schedules for S-Bahn Cologne
     
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  9. rhysrobinson336

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    At least we will have a few extra regional express services and freight in cologne hopefully to keep us going until Rhein Ruhr Osten comes available
     
  10. argyle_smurf

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    Good to see stuff moving up, especially the TGV. Also, really like the solution to showing the changes since the last one, good idea!
     
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  11. Knightfire1964

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    i thought it already was just not for ps4 slim and standard and xbox one and s
     
  12. mclitke

    mclitke Well-Known Member

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    You are joking right?
     
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  13. matjamca

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    It’s not on PS4 Pro either. Although to be fair, after hearing they weren’t in the game, I haven’t bothered looking for them. I’ll have a look next time I’m on.
     
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  14. Knightfire1964

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    oh didn't know that tbh i haven't even bothered to look for them in the game
     
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  15. DB628

    DB628 Well-Known Member

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    But we don’t get any Destination Boards for S-Bahn and RE1 sadly.

    TGV is now in production but was listen already on the Roadmap before
     
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  16. Dinger75

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    Good to see that Isle of Wight has moved up, so looks like its ready next update.

    The update after that though is looking a bit thin. I wonder if this will be just a small patch or if its just 'to be determined' what else is coming with it
     
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  17. matjamca

    matjamca Well-Known Member

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    All could be different in two weeks. They might just not want to commit to anything in this release.
     
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  18. Challenger3985

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    Disappointing that there's nothing actually new on the table this week (except for new fixes/improvements to work on). But of course, fixes comes first than making new ones (Goal of the year right?). So I got nothing to say until the next roadmap update.
     
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  19. stujoy

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    There is a lot in this roadmap update. I see quite a few bugs in there for investigation (including a couple that I have reported and a few that I haven’t yet encountered) and this I think is one of the most important parts of the roadmap. Once something is listed there for investigation or is further up the list and being worked on, we as players can relax a little on pointing them out or arguing a case for them in the forum. That is most welcome and is making me happier.
     
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  20. Larry-Your-Waiter

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    Interestingly the red signal issue on Cement Circle is still listed, but this works now. At least in TSW 2.
     
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  22. byeo

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    Nice to see the LGV Méditerranée: Marseille - Avignon route has moved up into "In Production". This is one I'm really looking forward to. Not sure if you've answered this or not before DTG Protagonist but can things move up and down within each section (In Production, Upcoming etc..)?
     
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    Hi,
    When is the next update due to be rolled out ?
     
  24. TheTipsyRaccoon

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    Any kind of ETA on Miles Platting and Cement Circle for TSW2020? It’s been reported Cement Circle is fixed already in TSW2 so it can’t be that far off can it?
     
  25. HamioSamio098

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    Dont quote me on this but it should roll out over the next 2 weeks.
     
  26. bobbobberdd

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    182 oh yeeahhh :) :):):):):):):):)
     
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  27. stujoy

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    I haven’t tried again but reports of it being fixed is good news and it is planned for a fix in TSW2020 so maybe it still isn’t fixed there. I notice there are a lot of unlisted fixes on the roadmap meaning some things are fixed quite quickly. There are of course many issues to get through but I am happy to see progress. It has been difficult to see in the past what has been taken on board by the devs because some bugs get more notoriety than others on the forum.

    And the Isle of Wight route is coming soon.
     
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  28. fabdiva

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    From what has been said elsewhere it takes a team of devs 3-6 months to create a route. TGV was previously in Planning and has just moved to "into production" - so I'd say at least 3 months before it's ready.
     
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  29. Blacknred81

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    Meh, nothing new exciting for me in this roadmap..

    On a side note , will the CSX Dash 8 come in both YN2 and YN3b schemes like the other CSX locos?
     
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  30. Mr JMB

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    I like the addition of the indicators for items that have moved up in the list and also the note about what was added and removed. Makes it very clear to read. Personally I am waiting for NTP to make it into TSW2 and when the preserved collection is complete I am wondering what that dev time will be used for. Fingers crossed it will be transferred to making continued improvements to preserved collection items under Adam's team. So there will be one team making new routes and locos and one team looking after the existing content. We can then see a continued balance in the roadmap of these items.
     
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  31. Trenomarcus

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    Nice to see the roadmap project coming along. What about using a symbol instead of "[NEW]"? Maybe the ▲ pointing right
     
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  32. jeanmarc094

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    ????? it doesnt take 1 month to do a route
     
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    They’re fixing it for 2020 as well (at least they said they were...)
     
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  34. argyle_smurf

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    Moved up to a higher level
     
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    There's several fixes that they've listed as improvements:
    • [NEW][Improvement] Stop Points on Bakerloo Line are not aligned with the platform monitors
    So having the stop points on in the correct place is a feature improvement as opposed to a fix?
    • [NEW][Improvement] Scenario Start indication issue in Scenario Designer
    It even mentions "issue" in the description...

    And then some of the fixes that haven't been fixed:
    • [Unlisted Fix] Traction lock icon remains red despite doors being closed and brakes released (MP36PH-3C)
    • [Unlisted Fix] Game hangs on loading screen
    Both are still broken.

    And then tough luck if you're on xbox, they forgot to add this one to the patch:
    • [Improvement] Expansion of East Coastway train formation options in the Scenario Designer
     
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  36. SHINO BAZ

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    It says rivet games isle of wright should be next yet no teaser or trailer has been shown,only a few random screen shots and shouldn't a date be posted as well,if it's that next?
     
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    Dates have never been posted on the Roadmap.
     
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    There no date anywhere yet,if it is next it should say something somewhere.
     
  39. Sintbert

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    Next Arrival doesn't mean it will be out bevor the next roadmap update. And since they have not even startet the hypetrain for Isle of Wight yet, i would say the next update is >2 weeks out. I guess release on 1. October?
     
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  40. Mr_Crazey

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    Any ideas what the "additional functionality" for the livery creator will be? Fingers crossed on letting us save layer groups lol Screenshot_20200915-110347_Chrome.jpg
     
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    Hope to see at least one time :
    [Investigate] improve graphic stability or graphic optimization.

    But I can still wait a while
     
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    What are the Up-Triangle marks before entries on the Roadmap
     
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    matjamca Well-Known Member

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    This means the associated item has moved up from the previous section on the roadmap. So for example, from planning to in production.
     
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    They said it in their last stream but this includes decal groups/decals mirroring, Hex colour codes and better transparency
     
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    I've created a version in Google Sheets, which I think is a much cleaner way of presenting the information. It's colour-coded by status: green for next to arrive, light blue for upcoming, yellow for in production, light purple for in planning, and light grey for investigations into reported issues/bugs. All of the information is the same as in the Roadmap article, I don't have any special insight or magical powers unfortunately, but I think this is an easier/quicker way of seeing where things are right now. I'll be updating it as and when DTG update the roadmap.

    EDIT: I've added filter views to the Google Docs spreadsheet, so you can now restrict results by type (route, loco, fix/improvement/upgrade), by region (North America or Europe), only results pertaining to Preserved Collection content, or only content being developed by 2nd/3rd parties.
     
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  46. kylel2036

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    Not bad DTG
     
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    Next spring/summer basically. There are some other stuff in there as well and who knows how things work out route wise.
    Realistically I expect it around spring time and hope that we have a nice surprise for Christmas with something else after Isle Of Wight. Just hope not the TGV route as it's not Christmassy. Hamburg to Lübeck would be great for Christmas and Münich to Augsburg as Augsburg is magical during Christmas period, would fit right in there.

    Plus SouthEastern as well. I would say, no matter the sequence of DLC releases, next 6 to 12 months is definitely interesting and exciting in TSW.

    Damn, forgot Swiss route. Now that would be great for Christmas but I doubt it's happening.
     
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  48. DB628

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    I want see every month a new Route DLC and Loco like in TS
     
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    Thats easy to do where there's multiple 3rd party developers working on content, not to mention some DLC for Train Simulator is sometimes previously 3rd Party content that gets published on Steam. The last few releases, since May, for Train Simulator have been made by...
    Route - RSSLO
    Loco - Travel By Train
    Route + Scenarios - High Iron Simulations
    Loco - Travel By Train
    Route - Dovetail Games
    Route + Loco - Just Trains
    Route - Bossman Games
    Loco - RSSLO
    Route - Union Workshop
    Loco - Dovetail Games
    Route - Milepost Simulations
    Scenarios - High Iron Simulations
    Route - Rivet Games
    Loco - Dovetail Games
    Loco - Rivet Games
    Reskin - The Loco Shop
    Route - Just Trains
    Reskin - The Loco Shop
    Package - Dovetail Games
    Route - Dovetail Games
    Route - Just Trains
    Scenarios - High Iron Simulations

    So unless more developers join in developing content for TSW 2, I don't see a good steady stream of DLC hitting every month.
     
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    Unlikely to happen. DTG have said there won't be frequent updates (I believe because of console update scheduling) , but rather bulkier updates.

    Edit: remember TS isn't available on console.
     
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