Route Salzburg – Rosenheim - Feedback Thread

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  1. rudi#9391

    rudi#9391 Member

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    is it possible to connect SIFA acknowledge and "PZB Wachsam" together on B?
    When driving with external camera (what i used to do most times) it's impossible to switch back to intern and then look right or left and try to hit the "PZB Wachsam" before i got a "Zwangsbremsung".
    I find the BR 111 quite challenging but drivable. But it makes no fun with this current situation.
    It's really nice to drive the german trains in TSW 5 with x+D-pad left and right for PZB and x+D-pad up for AFB confirmation.
    This is a good one. But at the routes where SIFA and PZB Wachsam are not together on B it gets frustrating really quickly.
    Maybe get rid of sanding on x+D-Pad down and put it there.
     
  2. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    They already are. (B) operates both SIFA and PZB Wachsam, but PZB Wachsam is only triggered when there is something to acknowledge. Next time you're on the 111, just hit (B) after an active 1000Hz magnet and watch what happens ;) (This applies to all newer German rolling stock.)
     
  3. rudi#9391

    rudi#9391 Member

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    You are on Xbox? For me, hitting B does exactly nothing. If it would work as you describe, i should not have the mentioned issue, or?
    FTF and DRA work very well.
     
  4. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    No, I’m on PS5. Hitting the (O) key works exactly as I described. If it doesn’t for you, then that might be a new Xbox-specific issue? I don’t recall any mention of this before. I only remember some problems with SIFA and the DoSto cab car being quickly found at release.
     
  5. Xin Liu

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    Hello, I'm drive BR101 Expert in this line, from Salzburg, when I pass the 73KM+600M pad, the PZB will emergency brake,and I can see 3 magnetite on the ground, 1 is 2000HZ, 2 is "S", I don't know what is "S" , and I can't see any signal or pad in there, Please tell me why? and how to deal this?? very thanks a lot! upload_2025-2-28_22-58-18.png upload_2025-2-28_22-58-49.png upload_2025-2-28_22-59-22.png upload_2025-2-28_22-59-42.png upload_2025-2-28_23-0-3.png upload_2025-2-28_22-58-18.png upload_2025-2-28_22-58-49.png upload_2025-2-28_22-59-22.png upload_2025-2-28_22-59-42.png upload_2025-2-28_23-0-3.png upload_2025-2-28_22-58-18.png upload_2025-2-28_22-58-49.png upload_2025-2-28_22-59-22.png
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  6. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    why did you attach all images multiple times
     
  7. Isaak

    Isaak Well-Known Member

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    You probably were overspeeding: these are speed check magnets (Geschwindigkeitsprüfabshnitt - GPA) that will trigger an emergency brake when you're (still) driving too fast when you're approaching a slower section. E.g. at the end of a 160kph section, these will be installed shortly before a section with e.g. a 120kph speed limit to make sure that the driver has decelerated enough. If you're still driving at above 135kph, you will be emergency braked.The speed at which you will be penalty braked varies from 20kph above to 10kph above the next speed limit, see the article below.
    The first magnet is a passive magnet that detects if a train passes by (by induction).
    The second magnet is an active magnet with either a 1000Hz or 2000Hz influence that is always active. It only deactivates after a set time after a train has passed over the first magnet. The deactivation time is set based on the speed limit the GPA magnets are protecting. If the train passes over the second magnet earlier, the magnet is still active and the train will either get a 1000Hz influence or a 2000Hz penalty brake application.
    The third magnet is a passive magnet that rearms the system.

    A 1000Hz GPA magnet can be installed at speed reduction signals or boards (lf6) that command a lower speed of e.g. 90 kph. If the train runs slower than 105 kph, the second magnet will have deactivated by the time the train crosses it, so the train driver is not forced to slow down to 80 kph because of the 1000Hz influence.
    A 2000Hz magnet is used in GPA magnets because if a train crosses the second magnet too soon, it will be driving too fast for the next speed limit and will always be penalty braked because of this. Normally 2000Hz magnets are used to protect red stop signals (hp0), and will always trigger an emergency brake, unless the PZB override switch is held and the train is driving slower than 45kph.

    TLDR: slow down faster when approaching a section with a lower top speed, or you will be penalty braked.

    More info on (German) wikipedia
     
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  8. NateDogg7a

    NateDogg7a Well-Known Member

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    Three magnets in close proximity can mean a PZB speed trap which is called Geschwindigkeitsprüfabschnitt (GPA). Generally if you are more than 15 km/h over an upcoming speed restriction then you can trigger an emergency brake. Perhaps this is what happened?

    Edited to acknowledge Isaak with a much more detailed explanation just above!
     
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  9. Myron

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    is that response directed to me?
     
  10. NateDogg7a

    NateDogg7a Well-Known Member

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    Oh no, it was for Xin Liu , apparently wasn't paying attention when I replied! Sorry for the mix-up
     
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  11. Xin Liu

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    sorry about there, maybe some mistake.
     
  12. Xin Liu

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    ok, I see a 110km/h predicted speed limit, and speed 160 for now, and route has 1% slope for up, so I'm using level4 elec brake, I think is enough, they shall be reduce to 110 before the speed limit pad,next time I will using more brake, thx.
     
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  13. Oenta

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    The route received a patch today for me on series X.

    Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim
    • Fixed an issue where the roll brakes would not release after changing ends at Salzburg.
    DB BR 185
    • Fixed issue where the anti-slip could apply too much brake force when moving in reverse.
    The scenario International Aid can be completed now! Enjoy
     
  14. daanloman#3930

    daanloman#3930 Well-Known Member

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    does this mean I can use the 185 again on my timetable mod? I recall it having issues reversing thus complicating my complicated freight moves
     

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