PlayStation Sand Patch Fully Fuelled

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  1. whiteleyaj

    whiteleyaj Active Member

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    How do you set all 4 engines to run harmoniously..... (distributed power)

    Im obviously doing something wrong as the rear engines dont seem to kick in ... I can see billowing smoke/steam from the front engines working together as I throttle up but nothing happening at the back. Ive tried following online guidance but find that unclear too.

    Onscreen says prepare for multiple working but then isnt very helpful for first timers into how to do that......

    If anyone out there has done this scenario and can tell me what to prep / or what state/condition to leave the rear lead engine before I leave it to join the new lead - much appreciated.

    Please don't just point me tto this guide as I couldnt get it to work from this.....
    https://train-sim-world.fandom.com/wiki/Driving_the_SD40-2,_GP38-2_and_GP40-2

    Thanks
     
  2. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

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    Read the instructions from StocktonRails in this thread. Helped me complete the scenario you're stuck on.

    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/sand-patch-banking-locos.25948/
     
  3. whiteleyaj

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    Thanks - Ill have a read and try again...... Just wish there where some better guidance it kind of throws you in at the deep end suddenly. Maybe needed in the intros as a supportive first time....?
     
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    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

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    Agree it should be covered in a tutorial, or at least make the manual available in-game for reference.
     
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  5. whiteleyaj

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    Well I tried and still no joy - onlyway I could get the rear engines to power up was to control the rear with the camera via the window........ My set up was tried two ways
    Rear engine lead
    cut off valve freight (although the comp highlights these as something to press in the setting up with the circle arrow thingy)
    automatic break full service
    independant brake off
    MU-2A lead or dead (although the comp highlights these as something to press in the setting up with the circle arrow thingy with arm/lever symbol - suggesting it wants altering......?)
    Ive tried in neutral (as it states to be done before moving to the new lead and left in forward (as an alternative to leave it set up as a lead?)
    radio (in fron lead) set to Bark on

    No matter what I seem to do the rear engines just seem dead weight - only putting in power as stated when I controlled the rear cab via the window with the camera - not best option.....
     
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    matthewbguilford Well-Known Member

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    5E454BDD-53B8-49B8-9A14-5BB8050F4C58.jpeg These steps, just make sure your turning on the banking comm in your lead locomotive. It’s located on the radio and is a yellow button.
     
  7. whiteleyaj

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    when I leave the (old lead) the one now at the back - I have I have it set to neutral as the ingame prompt tells me to do
    Pur brake to full service
    Unsure about the brake settings as stated in post (in game prompt highlights them as if expecting me to do something but doesnt say what to set to) as this is still the lead for the rear engines i assume i leave it in freight and lead/dead. (Maybe this is where im going wrong?)

    I set up front engine etc and press the bank on yellow button to left of volume control on radio.

    reving the engines - plumes of yellowy smoke comes out of front engines - use external camera - rear engines nothing?????)

    watched an online vid of someone plying it in old tsw format (as HUD was diff) they applied throttle 2 and was easily picking up momentum - Im adding sand like no tomorrow and bareley getting up any speed at throttle 3/4 (Hence why I assume not working) unless I use mycamera to operate back engines from the window and then power / speed kicks in and im off!!!!!!.....

    Excuse my ignorance - unsure if you are the same Mat from youtube videos.....
     
  8. whiteleyaj

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    Maybe its me - put it another way..... If the rear engines werent working would the front engines and 30+ cars move ? - Maybe Im expecting more based on the video Ive seen. - I can get up to 15mph.... Does this mean They are working even if they dont sound /look like it compared with amount of smoke coming from front / compared with back......?
     
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    matthewbguilford Well-Known Member

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    Hi, I am not the Matt from DTG, the one you see on YouTube. Having tried this scenario, it really doesn’t explain if your supposed to use the back multi unit for increased power or if your supposed to just leave it dead and deliver it at Sandpatch. The part of the scenario where it has you leave the brakes in full application is puzzling to me. As I can’t think of any set up process that has you apply the brake to 100% and leave it while you haul it. Having done this, you can set up the back MU to apply power. After you complete the steps it asks, set up the back locomotive as it’s your lead. When you get back to your front pair of locomotives make sure the banking comm is on.
    You can check to see if it is set up properly by placing the exterior camera outside of the lead rear locomotive so you can see the cab controls, when you increase power to the front you should see the AMP dial increase. This manual might also help explain how to set multiple unit and distributed power locos.
    https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/ste...ridor_Operator's_Manual_-_EN.pdf?t=1583320248
     
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  10. whiteleyaj

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    Im definitely doing something wrong - on the vid of another user doing same scenario - they are travelling at 50mph Im scraping 15/16 max..... taking me 2hrs to get half way - they completed in 2hrs.... But hopefully Ill get it finished.....
     
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    matthewbguilford Well-Known Member

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    I know you have already explained it but what specifically are you having a hard time with? Hope I can help you figure it out!
     
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    Just dont seem to have any oomph or drive crawling along at 17mph and then as the steepness increases my speed decreases (which is fine) but as mentioned another user on a vid I watched hoping to get some pointers (but must be using a keyboard as I cant see what they are setiing things to) is travelling at the max speed limit 25 and 50 mph zones - I am, as I said, hardly doing half that. Hence taking 2 hr t do less than half someone else has completed the task in. I was thinking maybe I had got the engines synced as I was moving (or still am As I type Im still crawling along) but when I saw that vid I know now that I cant have it set up right the power / speed just isnt there. Surely it shouldn't take (at this rate) 4hrs+ to complete 1 sceario......


    vid link I found (comparing to)
     
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    17197E01-85D4-4C32-9F21-5E052C7CFA15.jpeg 60311B94-AA20-4A7F-A663-528432467619.jpeg
    Without going into step by step like the manual does. The bottom picture is for the front of the train. If you follow the steps correctly you should be able to turn on the banking comm in your lead locomotive, when it’s working you can actually see the throttle moving positions in sync with the front leads locomotive.
     
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  14. matthewbguilford

    matthewbguilford Well-Known Member

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    I will say Sandpatch on TSW2 will slightly be a different experience from the original TSW version as they have now added adhesion physics and a more realistic weight sim. It does sound like the rear locomotives aren’t being used. If it’s the scenario that tells you to put the rear locomotives automatic brake into full application before you leave, I suspect that it is not actually helping when you are told to do that.
     
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    You should set-up as following (keeping it short). Do steps in order please.

    Lead engine (front of train):
    Gen Field, Engine run, control & fuel pump- all 3 set to ON.
    MU-2A- set to "lead or dead"
    Brake cut out- set to "freight"
    Independent brake "100%"- to hold train while you finish setup
    Automatic Brake handle "released"
    Ensure radio fuse (in fuse box) is ON

    Trail engine (front of train):
    Gen Field, Engine run, control & fuel pump- all 3 set to OFF.
    MU-2A- set to "Trail 6 or 26"
    Brake cut out- set to "cut-out"
    Brake handle- you shouldn't have to touch- keep set at "handle off"

    Lead engine (rear of train):
    Gen Field, Engine run, control & fuel pump- all 3 set to ON.
    MU-2A- set to "lead or dead"
    Brake cut out- set to "freight"
    Brake handle- you shouldn't have to touch- keep set at "handle off"
    Ensure radio fuse (in fuse box) is ON

    Trail engine (rear of train):
    Gen Field, Engine run, control & fuel pump- all 3 set to OFF.
    MU-2A- set to "Trail 6 or 26"
    Brake cut out- set to "cut-out"
    Brake handle- you shouldn't have to touch- keep set at "handle off"

    ***once all these are set turn "Banking Comms" to ON in the Lead Engine (front of train ONLY)***

    You should be set then. You can verify by using the exterior camera to view the helpers at the back- cycle up the throttle using the controller shortcut, you should see and hear them cycling up as well. Once verified, set throttle to notch 1, release independent brake in lead engine, and throttle up slowly to avoid wheelslip.

    If it doesn't work, try again doing all steps in-order.
     
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  16. matthewbguilford

    matthewbguilford Well-Known Member

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    Can you do me a favor and post this explanation in this thread to help another member out? I could copy and paste but you did a great job and didn’t want you to feel like I was trying to steal your words! Thank you for helping! https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/ac4400w-multiple-unit-setup.26283/#post-168332
     
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  17. whiteleyaj

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    Thank you for your continued patience and support. I may give this scenario up. Ive included an image of what Ive tried (taken from outside rear lead window so you can see the gauge hasnt moved)
    ScreenHunter_7944 Aug. 28 18.17.jpg
     
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    ok thanks for the above message
    Game I dont think should tell you to put breaks in full service
    2) The fuse in the front lead for the radio is set to off........!

    When Ioperate the front I see from the rear the same throttle being applied .........

    Wowll that was a toughie! 5 days - Big Big Thank you BIG THANKYOU for your patience!
    im actually reaching a decent speed! Ha... I may try it again once I forget about this nightmare.

    Once again - much appreciated support!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  19. matthewbguilford

    matthewbguilford Well-Known Member

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    YAY!!!! :D I’m glad you stuck with it and got it working! I hope you have a better experience now!
     
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