Scenario Planner Formations

A great one would be the ability to have all UK locos on Mk1s or Mk2s. But to get more specific, would it be possible to do a consist that is Class 47 + Mk1 BG + X amount of Mk3s? Since the HST livery designer is not far away meaning we could have proper Intercity loco hauled 80s/90s consist

 

Another couple that would be cool, 43 + 3 Mk2s + Mk1 + 43 to mimic a colas test train, and also the new ROG 37 + 4x Mk1 BGs + ROG 37

 

Here's my suggestions for formations

WSR 33 + NTP Mk2 coaches

Classes 37 x2, 47, 66 + a rake of the Laaers 560 Car transporters (loaded / empty) (see pics below)

SOS / WCL Jubilee + MK1 BSK (support) Coach

SOS Black 5 + MK1 BSK (support) Coach

Class 66 + 25 MFA's (SEHS) + Class 66

Class 20 x2 + 15 Seacows (WCL)

Class 31 x2 15 Seacows (WCL)

Class 52 +15 Seacows (WCL)

Class 47 +15 Seacows (WCL)

Class 33 , Class 37, Class 08 + 15 Seacows (WCL)

Class 33, Class 47 , 37 + 15 PCA Cement wagons

Class 37 x2 + between 10 / 15 TEA Wagons

Class 52 + 15 PCA Wagons

Class 66 x 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (these run in real life as 0Z66 upto about 3 class 66's (or similar locos) or 6X66 if more than 3 Class 66 or similar locos lashed up (aka Power move on Ruhr Sieg Nord)*

*Also Can I suggest a similar thing done with the American locos as sometimes you see lashups of up to 10 (I think I have seen 37 on YT) locos moving light between destinations.





That's all I can think of at the moment.

Regards Hentis

 

I don't know how realistic it would be, a DB BR 110 with a mix of Red (Bremen-Oldenburg) and Mint (Linke Rheinstrecke) N-Wagen?

 

Not sure if it has been mentioned, but 150/158 combinations are fairly common, would be nice to see that option when the 158 is released (Though I know the two liveries are very different)

 

DB BR 182(Rapid Transit) + 3x VVO Dostos + VVO Dosto CabCar(Nahverkehr Dresden)


I know it seems a bit pointless at first glance because the DB BR 182 is already delivered with Dostos, but at the very beginning of Nahverkehr Dresden you could already use the DB BR 182 with the VVO Dostos.

I was devastated when DTG had to remove this Option because the BR 182 as an AI could not interact with the Dostos Doors.

(Edit 28th April 2023) If it is possible, please also include the RT DB BR 182 with the Dostos from Kassel-Würzburg, because the RT Dostos are now nothing more than a Joke.

 

Just throw in some double-headed freight consists in German routes and I will be happy.

 

Forgot to add

Class 40, 31, 47 or 45 with 5 x YCV turbots + 5 Seacow ballast hoppers loaded or empty

Regards

Hentis

 

If its not planned to layer the 700 on BML id love if a FLU would be added at least to scenarioplanner like the HST Castle sets which also are exclusive to scenarioplanner.

 

nice to see 12 car 465s being added in.

 

Formation editing will be nice. I know it's not realistic but since getting the RHTT I've been wanting to strap some rail treatment equipment behind a CSX loco and give sand patch grade some scrubbing where the sun don't shine. (I realize cars won't spray without controller but since they don't really run those treatment cars on SPG obviously not expecting same realism)

 

Question
So I’m on ps4 and on version 1.33 on tsw3
How come todays update version 1.34 is 15gb …what the heck ..please can someone explain …I have all routes installed and run fine but I’m not happy that the update is 15gb for unknown reasons

 

Just wanted to say great job with the ROG 37 also hauling 377s and 387s in scenarioplanner. Thats how it should be set up, cross DLC formations that make sense from the start

 

To echo Tom's comments... What can I say, unit drags are a thing now

One thing however: A ROG 37 dragged 3 313s the other week from Lovers Walk to Eastleigh, why can't we drag 313s either as an SP consist or in service mode on London Commuter (Gen 9 only ofc) but that would be nice to be represented in game as it was a realistic move

 

That requires the Class 37 to be fitted with tightlock couplers, which aren't modelled at present.

 

That was the first thing I looked at when I saw the announcement and then I switched the light bulb in my head off as I saw the 313's had tight lock couplers.

Also the other thing I would say is to allow paths to and from Brighton lovers walk in scenario planner as currently there are none as well as paths to the line at Clapham jcn where the freight and 377 to Milton Keynes go.

Hentis

 

Fair enough, we need a Tightlock version of the ROG 37 for those drags to occur then

Totally agree with those paths Hentis, it's not just Lovers Walk, it's Three Bridges Tilgate, Gatwick Airport C.H.S, Selhurst and Stewarts Lane, not to add Battersea Pier C.S and Victoria C.H.S as well

 

Can we please have the ROG 37 coupled with a loaded Javelin? I want nothing more right now than to take the Charity Javelin on a tour of the non-electrified lines in a sort-of-semi-realistic way.

 

I found this pretty late, but good news, this would be great for filling the 'consist creator' shaped hole in this game. Though dissapointing nothing has been done yet.

 

I got New ideas

BR 146 From Dresden Riesa with 5 Dostos
143 with 4 Dostos From Dresden Riesa
3x425 From Bremen Oldenburg
BR 110 From Bremen Oldenburg with IC Coaches
Br 101 With ICE3 And ICE1
Br 155 With n-Wagen
Br 204 with n-Wage
Br 187 With 5 Dostos

 

Could this be scenario planner 2.0. It like the sim is pointing in that direction.

 

Lets make a bet, you really think dtg and skyhook is looking ahead to combine the units, which is technically possible for operation & assistance.

Dtg have proven the lack of their internal development process when it comes to updated vehicles. The result was the start of tsw 3 with 5 different dosto variants of the same vehicle.

I would be really surprised if we can couple & operate both units, not gonna set my hopes too high.

 

Are you trying to create a DB BR147 formation using the 187?

 

One thing I would love to see would be Consist with the br 204 and br 363/365, where the dosto set is turned around (so the cab is at the end of the consist, and not behind the loco)

so it would be: Br 204/363/365 ; dosto(varying amounts) ; dosto Cabcar

Another thing I would love to see would be br 204 and br 363/365 consists with the n-wagen (one like de dostos consists we have, one with the cab at the other end)

So it would be: Br 204/363/365 ; n-wagen(varying amounts) ; Karlsruher Steuerwagen
And: Br 204/363/365 ; n-wagen cabcar ; n-wagen(varying amount)

 

Kind of related to this, something that's rather obviously missing is the ability to spawn some arbitrary consist into the Training Centre, to play with sans the constraints of a real route and task. Presently you have to go through the hassle of creating a scenario to make it work.

Another possibility along these lines is alternative "timetables" for Training Centre, similar to the two different eras you can now select for GWE (with the Diesel Legends pack installed). Each timetable would spawn a different combination of stock into the sidings, following some coherent theme such as "UK steam locos", "UK classic diesels", "UK third-rail EMUs", "German classics", etc.

 

One thing that needs sorting in scenario planner is the class 40. I've lost count of the times I've selected the 40 with either TEA's or VAN's and had either a 47 or 45 on them when I load the scenario up. This is something that shouldn't be happening because we've selected the class 40, not the 47 or 45

 

Exactly. Training Center is the only place you can sit on a bench to watch trains. But it's impossible to do that because there are no AI trains at all. There should be an ongoing 24-hour timetable (at least one, maybe more!) of all the things you own racing around the tracks.

 

Santa Fe F7 with Amfleet coaches from Boston-Providence and New York-Trenton would be pretty cool formation to have.

 

Not possible. Passenger F7s had steam boilers whereas Amfleets require electric HEP.

 

DTG Matt
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/rog-barrier-coaches.70425/ here's another idea!

 

DB Br 110.3 with IC Coaches (Both new and 'older' Version)
DB Br 182 (all Versions) with IC Coaches
DB Br 204 with N-Wagons without Cabcar
DB Br V60 (363, 365) with N-Wagons without Cabcar


Br Class 08 with all available Br Freight Wagons (From TVL, WCL, ECW) etc.

 

DTG Matt is there any indication when this will be implemented? Really looking forward to it

as for ideas im with the “any nation formations with any nation loco” camp, brake system and coupling dependant.

I only play British but would be great to select any coaching formation with any loco with the correct brakes, and vice versa any in game formation of freight with the locos with correct brakes.

and have the mk3s available as a formation as they are in the game files with class 66 top and tail. One using mk3 and the ntp air braked mk1 would allow compatibility with any air braked British loco too

 

Yes I would love to have some "owner's collection" mode to spawn into like training center (or a new generic location) and just have my collection putting around.

 

Is this yet another idea that has been quietly shelved?

 

Seems that way.

Unless of course there is a big SP update about to drop and yet to be announced.

 

Or maybe there will something come with the Summer release?

 

I would settle for tail lamps being fitted to all trains that show up in the game. Especially in Timetable mode!

 

I know surely wouldn’t be hard to just code lamp brackets to allow a selection of lamps. The electro stars have the brackets but aren’t interactive, which they should be for the Rog 37 drags. The units should be auxed off with a tail lamp on the bracket

 

Matt I love you but when are we going to get the HUGE SCENARIO PLANNER EXPANSION YALL BEEN PROMISING????

 

Going on DTG's history for getting thing done we're probably looking at sometime around TSW65!

 

I'm still waiting for the "simple" fix for the DSD on the 313 lol.