Creation Sharing Schnellfahrstrecke Nürnberg - Ingolstadt

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  1. pilot21

    pilot21 Well-Known Member

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    No
     
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  2. hp1+vr2

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    okay, some questions.
    in which year will it be settled?
    will there be cargo trains on the SFS?
    will we see realistic AI at Nuremberg and Ingolstadt?
    will the ride smoothly like in reallife?
    will we get IC services or something on the route except the RE
    will it have a reduced and full timetable?
     
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  3. Myron

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    probably atleast 2013 as he said the Velaro D may also do well on this route

    are there some irl?

    ICEs, as seen in the images, duh

    just to answer a few of those with common sense ;)
     
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    There are no cargo and IC trains on this route.
    If I make a timetable there will be realistic AI traffic at Nürnberg and Ingolstadt.
    The ride feels smoothly like in reallife.
    If I make a timetable there will be only one version.
     
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  5. hp1+vr2

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    okay , thanks for answering.
    sad that there are no cargo trains driving because normally a SFS is built with the idea to use it for freight at night.
     
  6. GER/JUSI Lp

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    not this one its to steep for freight Trains
     
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    NIM was actually build with freight in mind as well. However, until today no freight trains use this route, as they are limited to 900t and the avoiding line still has enough capacity. Also, as everywhere on German SFS, mixed freight and passenger traffic is not allowed to pass each other in tunnels, which makes it difficult to handle it operationally.

    In fact, there is only one SFS in Germany that does not allow freight and that is Cologne to Frankfurt.
     
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  8. vircom

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    Wow, as always, an amazing Job. I'm really looking forward to your works.
     
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  9. hp1+vr2

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    so it is the same as with ulm wendlingen
     
  10. pilot21

    pilot21 Well-Known Member

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    Hello, today I want to share some progress on my route with a new video.
    Keep in mind that this is still work in progress and things might change until release.
    Sorry for the bad performance, I hope it will be better in the base game.
     
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  11. yoyoyoyo#4092

    yoyoyoyo#4092 New Member

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    It's just absolutely amazing what you've achieved in such a short time. The video isn't finished yet but everything you've seen so far... wow. I'm really looking forward to the results of both of your routes.:)
     
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  12. Myron

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    can confirm editor performance sucks but in-game it's way better, probably because the editor simulation uses less RAM, and Engine.ini changes also don't apply there so that's also a factor

    it's crazy how detailed the highspeed line is, like, lots of grass, bushes, I really am not used to this after playing DTG content which didn't have much of this... you are awesome!
     
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  13. Flying-Tumbleweed

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    This is madness (in a good way). It's crazy how much you've been able to make on such a high level.
     
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    I can see why DTG doesn't open the editor further so that content can be shared.

    Good job.
     
  15. Myron

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    they're working on that, though. shouldn't be a problem, right?
     
  16. traindori

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    We will see.

    We have already seen that improvements to the editor have been pushed back a long way. We all know what that usually means by DTG.
     
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  17. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    watching and even though my heart is broken it has no Skoda trains with dostos, still, the video is great and I love it and want it :) great work
     
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  18. drnicktgm#1259

    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    A huge respect to your effort pilot21!
     
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  19. donjgatlin95

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    Outstanding work. I would pay for this route, especially if it were extended in the future to be a full-length route.
     
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  20. RobertSchulz

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    Yes, I think you are only competing with yourself at the moment. Everyone is far off having their projects even partwise finished, and you just even start off with the next one like it were nothing at all. And you are even faster than DTG with creating routes. Absolutely unbelievable!

    If you don't get a contract with DTG, I don't know who else will honestly. Quite obviously that DTG needs you and your help to get more content and routes into the game.

    But I hope that you don't exhaust yourself. I imagine you sit there and working for your projects every free minute you have, right?
    Don't forget to relax in between!

    Apart of that, I think about your choice of route selections. I thought you would live close/or have a relation to the Main-Weser-Bahn, but this project now makes me think that you maybe select your routes after a different criteria. If so, what is it? High-speed lines and commuters between big metropoles would be my guess.

    Anyways, Good Luck for both of your projects (and even for the ones that maybe follow). I said in your other thread before, but say it again, you were a big inspiration for others here in the forum including me to start and keep continueing with my project, because you made me see what is possible with the Editor and this is just wonderful.

    Keep on rockin' and rulin' the PC Editor Forum, pilot21 !
     
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  21. pilot21

    pilot21 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the nice words!
    Yes, I live close to the Main Weser bahn and thats why I built it first. But I always wanted to have a proper German High-Speed Line in Train Sim World and Nürnberg Ingolstadt has a great scenery and is not too long.
    I wish you good luck with your route aswell!
     
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  22. mikel290

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    good!!
     
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    Wonderful work ! I saw that there were no signals at the moment, is that the most difficult part of a route ?
     
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    pilot21 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you! The signals are not so difficult, but I place them and configure them at the end because everytime you change something with the tracks you need to reconfigure the whole signal system.
     
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    RobertSchulz Well-Known Member

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    I remember that Lukas said so during the masterclass, but it actually never happened to me yet that I needed to reconfigure the signal system I have built so far. Even with track parts/junctions reworked or new signals brought in. Everything seems to work fine when I hit on "Fill section" again at the track section tool.

    Do you experienced that the complete signal system is not working, and you needed to reconfigure/place the signals new when getting new track parts in once? Because it did not so here yet.
     
  26. fceschmidt

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    I did lol. I have a signal that gets stuck showing Hp0 forever whenever I change seemingly anything in the track network. And it can't be fixed by the fill tool alone. However a Clear and Fill All always gets it working again.
     
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  27. pilot21

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    Same with me. On my Main Weser Bahn I reconfigured the whole signalling system atleast 7 times. Wont make that mistake again:)
     
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  28. RobertSchulz

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    Good to know. The only problem with a Hp0 I have is the visual/mechanical aspect of a Formsignal. It always shows Hp0 even if the technical part gives a green signal.

    I guess, I will rebuild then the signal system from scratch once I have all tracks laid by placing each signal one fter the other from the start to the end point. BTW: Were later track expansions (no junctions, mainline expansions) a problem if I want to build my signal system in sections?
     
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  29. fceschmidt

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    No problem at all. The only thing that you may lose - in my experience - are all the modifications which you made to the (autogenerated) signal routing tables. Everything else should persist.
     
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  30. Tomas9970

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    That's lucky. I on the other hand found the "Fill" button in the Track Section Tool to be absolutely evil. Basically after changing track and signals and pressing it to update my track sections every time, I eventually got nasty, unexplainable glitches that were always fixed by pressing the "Clear All" button and re-doing the signal tables.
     
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  31. all aboard railways

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    OMG This is one im looking forward to doing 300km ICE Trip yes please when ready please leave us all a link to where to download
     
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  32. colinL

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    Do we really believe we'll get the cooking feature anytime soon? DTG lets us down big time, as usual.
     
  33. Myron

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    uhhhhhhhhh yeah I do hope tjough
     
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    Will this be available to us? I am extremely interested in this route.
     
  35. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    as long as the Editor gets fixed so we can cook our mods? yes. yes, I think so.
     
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  36. driverwoods#1787

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    Do you mean the DB Baureihe 102 with Skoda Doppelstockwagen. To most Austrians like your self DB Baureihe 102 locomotive family is regularly seen there as the CD Baureihe 380 it's the locomotive that runs the daily Zürich Hauptbahnhof Vorarlberg Bahn Innsbruck Linz Budweis Brünn Prag sleeper train. Starting from Linz Hbf all the way to Prag (Prague)
     
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    class 380 in Swiss? i think that only taurus and Re420 are pulling the trains in Swiss and Austria
     
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    From what I can find, all 380s are swapped out in Linz and Vienna so they don't have any real services in Austria or Germany (despite being allowed to drive there). Running them in Switzerland is also out of the question as they don't have ETCS support.
     
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  39. razmatus#2517

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    yes, those that were like 4yrs late to get into service cos DB didnt like the brakes and reliability :D in the end they ordered only like 5 sets I believe, one was getting repairs when I last checked :D ... and originally they were to run at vmax 200, but because they still didnt meet certain stuff, that got down to 190 km/h... and in the meantime DB made those weird consists that looked like S-Bahn trains with Vectrons at the head (cos the set itself doesnt have ETCS necessary to run the line at 200 km/h) to compensate :D

    but who knows, in time they might catch those treacherous bugs ruining the reliability and eventually become prized trains (like class 671/971 Skoda dostos here in Slovakia - they faced a lot of electrical issues at first, especially if the power wasnt provided by the original power car, but a different loco - that used to cause short-circuits in the carriages... eventually they managed to fix those issues and now those trains are the backbone of regional travel around Bratislava and elsewhere... sure 102 with those sleek dostos looks damn cool tho :)
     
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    Thank you for your information about it. I do have a feeling if one owns this route the DB Baureihe 102 Skoda Doppelstockwagen with the other German routes combined with Main Spessart Bahn layer. Your end result becomes this DB Baureihe 102 Skoda Doppelstockwagen runs like a DB Baureihe 146.2 767.2 766.2 780 785 Doppelstockwagen.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct and inside Linz Central Station the CD380 waits for the Zürich Hb sleeper train to Prague via Salzburg Hbf and Bludenz then from there all the way to Prague
     
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    kind of yeah, it just has LZB or ETCS, not sure which... since it has to run above 160 :) ... it's pretty much a buffed up version of those yeah - those dostos had to be specially designed (better pressure-sealed) to withstand passing ICEs in tunnels (which on that route go like 300 km/h) :)
     
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    Correct also 280 kmh capable ICE1
     
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  44. tokio#8329

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    any news? :)
     
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    When will it be available? This is my dream route!
     
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  46. Matin_TSP

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    Let's not put any kind of pressure on the OP by asking stuff like "When it's ready?", "any news?" etc. If OP feels like sharing progress and info, we'd all be happy. But it's his project and he takes all the time he needs. Let's stay with that :)
     
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    Sorry about that
     
  48. pilot21

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    Hello, today I want to share some progress on my route with a new video.
    Keep in mind that this is still work in progress and things might change until release.
    Sorry for the bad performance, I hope it will be better in the base game.

     
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    Incredible! Don’t know what else to say…
     
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    Apart from the appreciation, I do actually have a technical question in regard to the implementation of LZB into a route.

    I have noticed in the video that Vsoll was indicating 300kph, which is true for the line speed, but obviously not for the max speed of the ICE1. How is this done in routes like SKW? I would assume it’s a function of the timetable. Does LZB read the max speed of the currently driven service from what is entered when building a timetable? Or is it a function of the LZB itself, which may read what train is using it? Just curious, though…
     
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