Loco Scotrail Class 158 Feedback Thread

Discussion in 'Player Feedback' started by DTG Jamie, Jul 25, 2024.

  1. LucaZone

    LucaZone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    664
    Hiya,
    What Depot moves does the HST have in the Sprinter Timetable that could be made playable? We'll certainly look to make them available if they exist. There has been a lot of interest to make the HST more accessible. Something we did not anticipate.
    The Class 170 currently has 1 out of and then back into Haymarket ECS. We are talking with Rivet about improvements to Haymarket Depot to make this location more accessible.
    We will look into the HST services not having PIS data on station screens. That data has certainly been implemented to the same level as player services. We are aware of issues with the departure screens at Edinburgh not being entirely reliable, something again, we are talking with Rivet about improving. We could only provide the data in the timetable. The functionality of the PIS screens is entirely under the control of Rivet Games.
    What exactly is fake about the Sprinter timetable? Its been entirely built from RTT data captured earlier this year. If you could point out what is fake, we can look to resolve if appropriate.
    With regard to the OG timetable, that is Rivet Games content that is not for us to edit and change. If they chose not to include the HST in their timetable, only they can explain why.
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Helpful Helpful x 1
  2. LucaZone

    LucaZone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    664
    Here is a break down of all services operating in the Sprinter timetable.
     

    Attached Files:

    • Like Like x 2
    • Helpful Helpful x 2
  3. johnmcglade17

    johnmcglade17 Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2020
    Messages:
    220
    Likes Received:
    87
    The class 158 so good It would be in better if it was on the flyer circle the GSM-R is not work
     
  4. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2023
    Messages:
    4,464
    Likes Received:
    5,022
    *Fife Circle*
     
  5. trainguy#6029

    trainguy#6029 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2023
    Messages:
    506
    Likes Received:
    723
    I do apologise if anyone else has already mentioned this, but I noticed the logo decals on the side look as though they're peeling off the unit, they even cast a shadow!
    The only issues I've found thus far has been the above mentioned, the in-cab headlight display issue and the GSM-R not working - the latter two I know have been mentioned.

    (I'm on Xbox Series S)
    ab9bc4fe-ab90-4855-86ec-e531fff1decb.png 5d33d81d-fb58-4d6e-858f-ae8e107a8f91.png 1c6b0650-4ede-4cb0-be60-43afa5cc81a6.png
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2024
  6. CajonPass2022

    CajonPass2022 Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2022
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    173
    Journey Mode service 1R11 Edinburgh-Glasgow Queen Street cannot be completed. I am spawned in an incomplete 1-car Class 158 formation with a "Wait for a moment" objective that never advances. The service cannot be progressed or completed.
     
  7. LucaZone

    LucaZone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    664
    CajonPass2022 Any more info on this? Appears to work fine for me.
    upload_2024-7-30_17-6-22.png
     
  8. CajonPass2022

    CajonPass2022 Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2022
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    173
    That must be Service Mode, which starts at 17:44:00 and does work. In Journey Mode, the start time is 06:44:00 and has the problems I mentioned above.
     
    • Helpful Helpful x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  9. DeltaFOX2k7

    DeltaFOX2k7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2020
    Messages:
    877
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    I can confirm this, the service starts with the front car of the 158, the rear car is completely missing. If you press T, it only says "on foot", no further information. The journey cannot be completed without a fix. (PC, Steam)

    1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg

    However, I am impressed that the closed roller blind is modeled.
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2024
  10. LucaZone

    LucaZone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    664
    Hmm interesting. Looking in the timetable there are two 1R11 services and they are both allocated to Class 385s. Will look more into this.
     
  11. Concorde9289

    Concorde9289 Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2024
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    168
    Are there AI services from Edinburgh to Dundee (1tph), Leven (1tph), Glasgow Central (2tph), Inverness (5tpd), and North Berwick (2tph)? Also from Glasgow QS there should also be services to Cumbernauld (1tph), Falkirk Grahamston (1tph), Dundee (1tph), and Mallaig/Oban (6tpd).
     
  12. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2019
    Messages:
    1,797
    Likes Received:
    3,253
    The 158s aren't on Fife Circle yet. Won't be included until Leven branch is added.
     
  13. Concorde9289

    Concorde9289 Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2024
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    168
    Sorry. I meant AI services at Waverley for the Edinburgh to Glasgow route.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. thomasaskew#2987

    thomasaskew#2987 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2024
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've had exactly the same issue on the PS4, never happened with the EMT 158, just the ScotRail.
     
  15. trainman#4695

    trainman#4695 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2022
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    34
    When you shut down the engines and restart it back up you lose all lights and electrics this is a bug . Also I can get a video of it as well.
     
  16. thundxr#8910

    thundxr#8910 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2023
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    2
    Obviously something they need to fix. It’s my one gripe with the train (actually that’s a lie, incorrect display on the headlight proving and GSMR only working once you max the brightness as well)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2021
    Messages:
    2,655
    Likes Received:
    4,519
    For me Edinburg Glasgow + Five circle (+ the new leven branch) should be 1 merged map with 1 timetable.

    The scotrail conent releases were so close, so a bit of planning and working together between the devs would be required to plan ahead.

    Probably many players see it different, but tsw is still very much tries to be tsc. Seems the powerful benefit of a network is not seen and the ferrari continues to be powered by a fiat engine...

    (Rivet seems even have built even fife circle out of the e2g map. Very very shortsighted.
     
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2024
    • Like Like x 2
  18. LucaZone

    LucaZone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    664
    Hi Everyone,
    Just to let you know we have 'fixed' the GSMR display (the brightness issue). We're also adding additional data to the timetable to be displayed on the panel while we work on making more of the AI trains accessible to drive. We believe the odd intermediate corridor issue is a console build problem as this issue does not occur on PC versions as far as we can tell. The headlight repeater panel is putting up a good fight and may require us to completely ditch the artwork/setup for it and start again from fresh. TPWS override button going into the wall is also fixed.

    Regarding the comment that E2G and Fife should have been one route because they released so close together, the former was released in January 2023, and the latter March 2024. There are at least 4 other route pairs in TSW that share a common station so this is not a unique situation.
     
    • Like Like x 5
    • Helpful Helpful x 3
  19. matthewgoddard510

    matthewgoddard510 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2021
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    339
    Hi their Luca thank you very much for your response. I will definitley look on RTT. Regarding the 158 timetable apologies didn't know this was an actual thing tbh. I looked on RTT and they are all operated by 385s so apologies if any offence was caused.
    So HST playable depot moves;
    Haymarket
    5A79-0904 Haymarket depot to Edinburgh
    5H17-12:58 Haymarket depot to Edinburgh
    5B24- 1341 Edinburgh to Haymarket depot
    5A78-1507-Haymarket depot to Edinburgh
    5H19-1912-Haymarket depot to Edinburgh
    5T93-2100- Glasgow Queen Street to Haymarket Depot (This one I know players would love)
    5B44- 2245 Edinburgh to Haymarket Depot
    Eastfield H.S
    5A78- 0520 Eastfield H.S To Glasgow Queen Street
    5T09- 0911 Glasgow Queen Street to Eastfield H.S
    This information I found on Realtime Trains and Date was 1st August 2024 :)
    Hope this helps.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. LucaZone

    LucaZone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    664
    Hiya, Thanks for getting back. Your original message:
    The list you provide doesn't sound like they are in the Sprinter Timetable but are services you would like included.
    Seven of the listed services involve Haymarket Depot which is not currently accessible, something we are talking with Rivet Games about in the hope of getting it remedied. The route is not made by Skyhook Games, so we can only work with what is provided.
    We will look at Eastfield depot again but I believe over the timetable reset point (3 or 4am) this depot is already full of stock and so adding HSTs may not be possible.
    Regards
     
    • Helpful Helpful x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  21. matthewgoddard510

    matthewgoddard510 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2021
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    339
    Oh ofc. Thanks for getting back to me, sorry for the long delay been busy and not been active on here. But anyways. Love the 158 you have done.
    IS the cab meant to be that bright by any chance? It just feels so clean. That is all can't think of much other feedback
     
  22. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2022
    Messages:
    3,167
    Likes Received:
    4,874
    Hello Adam, the HST services at the Glasgow end either use Eastfield H.S. or use Cadder HST Depot (between Bishopbriggs and Lenzie) for stabling and maintenance if it helps :)

    These are an example coming from each depot:

    Realtime Trains | 5A47 0520 Eastfield H.S. to Glasgow Queen Street | 01/08/2024

    Realtime Trains | 5A51 0700 Cadder HST Depot to Glasgow Queen Street | 01/08/2024

    I can understand if Eastfield is too full at that stage in the morning on the Sprinter TT but I'm sure Cadder could be a viable alternative if Rivet have made it accessible already?
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Helpful Helpful x 1
  23. Midnight

    Midnight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2018
    Messages:
    580
    Likes Received:
    1,150
    The lighting panel is bugged.

    The one headlight will always turn red or go off completely when headlights are switched on.

    I am playing on XBOX Series X / S
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Aug 2, 2024
    • Like Like x 1
  24. BeastyBill88

    BeastyBill88 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2022
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    1,613
    This is more regarding the HST sets in the Sprinter timetable is it at possible to set up HST's so they can use CC liveries? As using CC liveries only works when the player spawns a train, none of the AI ones use the liveries.
     
  25. bob#5089

    bob#5089 Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2023
    Messages:
    203
    Likes Received:
    142
    Hello!

    I did post this before and still has not got a reply. My 158s for ScotRail look abit odd.. the walkways stick out. Not the gangways but the walkway. This doesn't happen for any other train. Ive done everything. Uninstalled it and reinstalled it yet nothing works. This just may be an issue with my Xbox one but it may not. Here is some evidence/proof.
    51c3428a-8684-48cb-994b-5392d480f497.png 965636d6-4e80-4e0a-9a9c-331284776afa.png Now as seen above you can see this. It's a bit too late to report it but I was wondering if it could be fixed?
     
  26. LucaZone

    LucaZone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    664
    Thanks for the report.
    We are indeed looking into this. With TSW5 working its way through the DTG systems there is no opportunity yet for us to release any service updates, but we have been working on improvements following feedback since release, so as to be ready as soon as DTG are ready to accept updates from us.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  27. bob#5089

    bob#5089 Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2023
    Messages:
    203
    Likes Received:
    142
    Thank you, have a good day.
     
  28. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2022
    Messages:
    3,764
    Likes Received:
    4,234
    Bit of a mix up I've found.

    The TPWS Train Stop Override light is for some reason the yellow signaller button.

    The doors released light is the TPWS override light for some reason. The sander and the red emergency GSMR call button are also lighting up when it should be the other TPWS buttons illuminating.
     
    • Helpful Helpful x 1
  29. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2022
    Messages:
    3,764
    Likes Received:
    4,234
    We all know it's a carriage (duhh). That should really say hello I'm carriage no. (Inset number here) Like on the 380 dtg made. Etc etc. Could you please replicate this?

    Thanks,
    Nathan.
     

Share This Page