Train Sim World 3 Scottish East Coast Main Line/fife Circle Line: Dundee To Edinburgh

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    Drive between the city of the Discovery and the capital of Scotland via the heart of Fife using fast, modern traction in Train Sim World: Scottish East Coast Mainline/Fife Circle Line: Dundee-Edinburgh

    Hello, I would like to suggest the Scottish East Coast Mainline, again :cool:, but this time from Dundee to Edinburgh and also, we are going to include the infamous 'circle of Fife' via Glenrothes with Thornton :D

    Here is the Aberdeen-Dundee section of this route for any new readers of my threads:
    Scottish East Coast Main Line: Aberdeen To Dundee :)

    Stock included in base route: (the same stock as last time but here's a refresher)
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    The British Rail Class 43 'HST'

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    The British Rail Class 158 'Express Sprinter'

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    And the British Rail Class 170 'Turbostar'

    Training (In Training Center):
    Class 43 (ScotRail) Introduction
    Class 158 Introduction
    Class 170 Introduction

    Scenarios:
    Tay and Forth Special: (Difficulty - 3)
    Drive a 170/158 combo from Dundee to Edinburgh on a special service commemorating the two bridges they will cross on the way, all while on a stormy day

    Fife Stopper: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive a pair of 158s from Edinburgh to Ladybank on a stopping service during the summer

    Plugs to Waverley: (Difficulty - 1)
    Drive a 43 HST set from Haymarket Depot to Edinburgh for the start of the morning peak

    Glenrothes Turbo: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive a 170 from Edinburgh to Glenrothes via Cowdenbeath in the dying hours of the evening peak so your train shouldn't be too busy...

    (Sandbox Scenario): (Difficulty - 1)
    Drive around Haymarket Depot in any train you want

    Timetable:
    2019 Working Timetable

    Potential DLC, Layers and Stations coming up on Pages 2-4...
     
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    Potential DLC:

    Class 68 (+ Mk2s) in ScotRail livery:
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    Class 800 'Azuma' in LNER livery:
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    Class 221 in CrossCountry livery (if XC sort their licensing malarkey out):
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    And the Class 73 (+ Mk5s) in Caledonian Sleeper livery:
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    Service Pattern for DLCs:
    800, 221 and 73 are the same as in the Aberdeen-Dundee thread but the 68s, they did peak services on the Fife Circle Line between Edinburgh-Glenrothes with Thornton going both ways round the circle

    Layers:
    Class 47/other diesel locos are available for railtour layer around the Fife Circle or up to Dundee
    Class 43 + Mk3s (GWE) in Network Rail Livery for NMT runs on the route

    Stations: (we'll continue where we left off in October at...)
    Dundee:

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    Dundee railway station serves the city of Dundee on the east coast of Scotland. It is situated on the northern, non-electrified section of the ECML, 59+1⁄4 miles (95.4 km) northeast of Edinburgh. Dundee is the tenth busiest station in Scotland. In January 2014, the former main station building was demolished to make way for a new building as part of the Dundee Waterfront Project which opened on 9 July 2018. Dundee railway station is where the Edinburgh-Dundee line meets the Glasgow-Dundee line, via Perth. It is also the start of the Dundee-Aberdeen line we covered in October.

    (Tay Bridge):

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    The Tay Bridge carries the railway across the Firth of Tay in Scotland between Dundee and the suburb of Wormit in Fife. Its span is 2.75 miles (4.43 kilometres). It is the second bridge to occupy the site.

    Leuchars (for St.Andrews): (pronounced Lewkhers)
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    Leuchars railway station serves the towns of Leuchars and St Andrews in Fife, Scotland. The station is the last northbound stop before Dundee. The station was built as Leuchars Junction station for the route over the Tay Bridge to Dundee, the previous Leuchars station being on the line to Tayport. There are buses and taxis available to transfer passengers to nearby St. Andrews.

    Cupar:
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    Cupar railway station serves the town of Cupar in Fife, Scotland. The station has two platforms, of which the southbound one (for trains to Edinburgh) is now wheelchair accessible. Services are provided by ScotRail.

    Ladybank:
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    Ladybank railway station serves the town of Ladybank in Fife, Scotland.

    Markinch:
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    Markinch railway station serves the town of Markinch, Fife, Scotland, which serves the Glenrothes, Leslie and Levenmouth areas of Fife. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the main Edinburgh-Aberdeen line, 33+1⁄4 miles (53.5 km) north of Edinburgh Waverley.

    (Glenrothes with Thornton):
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    Glenrothes with Thornton railway station serves the communities of Glenrothes and Thornton in Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the Fife Circle Line, 31+1⁄4 miles (50.3 km) north of Waverley.

    Kirkcaldy:
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    Kirkcaldy railway station serves the town of Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the Fife Circle line and the Scottish ECML, 26 miles (42 km) north east of Waverley. The BTP maintain a small office on Platform 1.

    The Fife Circle to Inverkeithing coming up next...
     
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    The Outer Fife Circle:

    Kinghorn:
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    Kinghorn railway station serves the town of Kinghorn, Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the FCL, 22+3⁄4 miles (36.6 km) north east of Waverley.

    Burntisland:

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    Burntisland railway station serves the town of Burntisland, Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the FCL.

    Aberdour:
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    Aberdour railway station serves the village of Aberdour, Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the FCL.

    Dalgety Bay:
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    Dalgety Bay railway station serves the town of Dalgety Bay in Fife, Scotland. Lying on the Fife Circle and Edinburgh-Aberdeen lines, it is managed by ScotRail.

    The Inner Circle:

    Cardenden:
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    Cardenden railway station serves Cardenden, Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the FCL, 27 miles (43 km) north of Waverley.

    Lochgelly:
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    Lochgelly railway station that serves Lochgelly, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the FCL, 25 miles (40 km) north of Waverley.

    Cowdenbeath:
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    Cowdenbeath railway station serves the town of Cowdenbeath, Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the FCL, 22+1⁄2 miles (36.2 km) north of Waverley.

    Dunfermline Queen Margaret:
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    Dunfermline Queen Margaret railway station is one of two stations which serve the city of Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the FCL, 18+1⁄2 miles (29.8 km) north of Waverley. The station takes its name from the nearby hospital. It is the longest railway station name in Scotland.


    Dunfermline City (Town):
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    Dunfermline City railway station, formerly Dunfermline Town, is a station in the city of Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the FCL, 17 miles (27 km) north of Waverley.

    Rosyth:
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    Rosyth railway station serves the town of Rosyth in Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and lies on the FCL, 14.7 miles (23.6 km) north of Waverley.

    Back on the mainline at...
    Inverkeithing:
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    Inverkeithing railway station serves the town of Inverkeithing in Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the FCL, 13+1⁄4 miles (21.3 km) north west of Waverley.

    North Queensferry, the Forth Bridge and more coming up on the last page...
     
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    North Queensferry:
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    North Queensferry railway station is a railway station in the village of North Queensferry, Fife, Scotland. The station is managed by ScotRail and is on the FCL, 11+1⁄4 miles (18.1 km) northwest of Waverley.

    (Forth Rail Bridge):
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    The Forth Bridge is a cantilever bridge across the Firth of Forth in the east of Scotland, 9 miles (14 kilometres) west of central Edinburgh. Completed in 1890, it is considered a symbol of Scotland (having been voted Scotland's greatest man-made wonder in 2016), and is a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

    Dalmeny:
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    Dalmeny railway station is a railway station serving the towns of Dalmeny and South Queensferry, about 8 miles (13 km) west of Edinburgh city centre. It is on the FCL, located just south of the Forth Rail Bridge.

    Edinburgh Gateway:
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    Edinburgh Gateway station is a railway and tram interchange at Gogar in Edinburgh, Scotland, which opened on 11 December 2016. It is served by ScotRail and Edinburgh Trams, and serves both Gogar and the Airport, to which it is connected by the tram line.

    South Gyle:
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    South Gyle railway station is a railway station serving South Gyle in the City of Edinburgh, Scotland. The station was opened on 9 May 1985 by ScotRail and is located on the FCL, 4+1⁄2 miles (7.2 km) west of Waverley. It has two platforms. There is a ticket machine and a shelter on each platform.


    Haymarket:
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    Haymarket railway station is the second largest railway station in Edinburgh, Scotland, after Waverley. The station serves as a major commuter and long-distance destination, located near the city centre, in the West End. Trains from the station serve much of Scotland, including Fife and Glasgow, as well as suburban lines to the east, and the ECML through to King's Cross. It is the seventh busiest railway station in Scotland.

    Edinburgh Waverley:
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    Edinburgh Waverley railway station is the principal railway station serving Edinburgh, Scotland. It is the second busiest station in Scotland, after Glasgow Central. It is the northern terminus of the ECML, 393 miles 13 chains (393.16 miles; 632.7 kilometres) from King's Cross, although some trains operated by LNER continue to other Scottish destinations beyond Edinburgh.

    More on a route south of Waverley, check this out...
    The Borders Railway: Edinburgh-Tweedbank

    I hope you enjoyed reading this long-wounded, continued suggestion from October's one, remember, no arguments, you are all entitled to your opinions so I don't mind if you want the route or not and I'll see you guys below... See you next time for another suggestion for TSW :)
     
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    Sounds like a great route!
    Would love to see it! :love:
     
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    I agree with you there :love:
     
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    Why not run this like the train simulator classic version since it came with LNER A4 Class 68 Mk 2 Scotrail 158 170. Excellent idea and in the screenshot loading pages this would be a hit just like the train simulator classic version of the route with some of the loading screens from Screenshot contest winner featuring the forth Bridge
     
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    ???
     
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    You know what he means :D
     
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    Yep, it is the TSC Fife Circle Line but with a new extension to Dundee with a potential merge with my Dundee-Aberdeen suggestion in the top message of this suggestion ;)
     
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    It might be too large a project if we're including both the full Fife Circle, the line to Dundee and the Class 158 alongside the Class 170 and HST. At a minimum I think the main line to Dundee should be featured, but with a short spur to Glenrothes (where Fife Circle services can start/end) if the inner circle were to be excluded. The Class 170 is a must and the HST might be an easy inclusion if it can be rebuilt from the Great Western HST (just like the real thing!).
     
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    On the route side, I agree with that :)

    On the train side, the 170 and 158 are needed, the HST can layer from GWE and take your fancy out of the four DLC options available ;)
     
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    Yea ;)
     
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    I'd say the HST should be layers only and make the Class 158 and Class 170 base trains. :)
     
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    Using railmiles engine this would come out to 59 miles 14ch Dundee to Edinburgh Waverly and I'm and for the circle it might be 10 to 20 miles therefore we would have a route 70 to 80 miles which is actually shorter than 115 MI 186 km Schnellfahrstrecke Hannover Würzburg Kassel Würzburg segment.
     
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    I agree with you and Cathcart Circle can merge with Glasgow to Edinburgh via Carstairs or Shotts due to them sharing Glasgow Central. What will happen is that you get the 2019 time table with 385 peak runs
     
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    Agreed ;)
     
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    We rarely get two completely new trains with routes nowadays, so I would pick the Class 170 over the Class 158 (it would still be great if we got both :))

    The HST can't really layer on as it would need modifying from the existing one we have (different formation, livery, and door type).
     
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    Yeah I agree regarding the HST :)

    So I'm thinking the HST and 170 as base trains and the 158 as DLC ;)
     
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    My god man…. This would really be a dream come true if this ever happened for TSW. Such a great route. And very scenic too with the bridges and stuff.

    come to think of it actually. Has TSW had a route where we can cross a massive bridge yet ???.
     
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    I would love if this route came to TSW :love:

    I can't think of any routes off the top of my head but I'm sure someone will fully answer your question ;)
     
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    The biggest bridge I can think of off the top of my head is in Arosalinie.
     
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    East Coastway :)
     
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    That's London Road Viaduct you're thinking of ;)
     
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    Yup! I mean, a viaduct and a bridge are close enough...right? ;)
    (plz don't kill me if I'm wrong).
     
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    They are similar, think of a viaduct as a very tall bridge ;)

    I wouldn't do such a thing, don't worry :D
     
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    Okay, thanks! :)
     
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