Simrail Vs Tsw Route Dlc Price Comparison

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  1. kurtosizm

    kurtosizm Well-Known Member

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    Apparently, the save game function is being worked on:

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  2. eldomtom2

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    I don't think Run8 really does dispatching, though?
     
  3. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    It does both AI and manual dispatching.
    Quite a lot of the game is the dispatching part.
     
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  4. Vinination

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    I think you missunderstood me there, Yes most 3rd partys release theire routes once a year or maybe longer but what i was reffering to is that DTG, which is the original topic here, releases way more updates and dlcs over the year. I did not count but i think route/loco dlcs from DTG are released about 10 times per year. The more routes get developed the more developers need to be paid and dont forget the licenses, research by visiting the routes etc..
    Dont get me wrong, if you prefer Simrail im the last one to say something against it, but to just blame DTG for not making 100km route dlcs for 10 bucks without looking at the entire whole is just wrong. I will stay at my point, you will probably stay at yours. After all such a discussion wont change a thing.
     
  5. steveownzzz#6107

    steveownzzz#6107 Well-Known Member

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    Either simrail are selling themselves short or they figure nobody is going to pay 30 bucks for their content. Whereas TSW’s fanbase is paying up
     
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  6. captaingunadeep

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    After buying almost all DLC of TSW since the beginning. I completely stopped buying any DLC since October last year. These DLC are just not worth the price or quality they offer. Lately the prices are very high and no improvement to quality or route length. I no longer want to buy TSW products unless they lower their price or deliver the product worth the price they are asking.

    Or will consider buying a DLC if they completely ditch the class 66 from any new dlc. So yeah that means never buying new DLC ever again.
     
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  7. Matin_TSP

    Matin_TSP Well-Known Member

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    I'm not an expert for UK, but completely ditching it seems a bit too far, as the class 66 is everywhere in UK irl too.
     
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  8. Jpantera

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    It isnt though, 37s, 56s, 60s, 68s, 69s, 70s, 88s and 90s all feature too. Some places almost never see DB liveried 66s even if they see other companies colours.
     
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  9. opark

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    Rarely see anything but a 66.
     
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  10. RattenReich

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    Save game in Simrail, now works in alpha form. I do not do MP but i still prefer SR to TSW all day long.
    For me personally DTG blew it ages ago. With their attitude to pricing and regurgitating the same game, year after year.
    Plus the vacuous promises of doing something useful with TSC.
     
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  11. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Already a game changer. Still a WIP as you need to load up the scenario and get in the cab before the load option appears. I also needed to put the main switch back in and the HUD still showed the last calling point but that resolved itself quickly.

    So three cheers to SimKol for working on this and at least now I can run the SP scenarios in their entirety.
     
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  12. operator#7940

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    Agreed.... the 66 is just doing the lions share of work.
    There's just MORE of them.
    Class 66 480
    compared to
    Class 37 30ish? (still in service, most of them private and many on the Mainland)
    Class 56 20-20? (still in service)
    Class 60 33 (still in service)
    Class 68 37
    Class 69 16 (converted from Class 56 so not really new)
    Class 70 34
    Class 88 10
    Class 90 50

    I get it... people like variety... but many of them are of limited use or just were never built in large numbers. They definitely aren't seen on the lines we have in game. Those lines tend to see Class 66's irl.
    And people are all about being "realistic" right?
    If people don't like it... blame the rail companies that bought and use it so much.
    Or ask for more routes that use more varied locos.
    Or ask for more routes that are set before 66s existed.
    Hating on the decent loco that is doing the work in real life is misdirected.

    It's odd to have people praising Sim Rail with limited traction and then also hating on the 66 being "used too much."
    It's a double standard.
     
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  13. Jpantera

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    Watch freight around the Crewe area of an evening plenty of other than 66 hauled trains. Anyway bottom line is DTGs TSW offering of 66s only is a bit dull. Simrail is a competition to DTG but in a way different. Apples and pears....
     
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  14. denis

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    One branch to Lodz for 10$ in Simrail is more worth driving than several dozen short and error -riddled TSW's stubs for 30 . Bus routes are even longer than railway routes in TSW. And for escapism and relaxation, I always prefer Simrail in Mp (Yes, yes, you heard right -in MP). The length of the route makes the difference. The process of immersion and the feeling of driving in Simrail is simply superior in all respects. And of course, the lack of AI dispatchers in Railway game in 2025 makes TSW just an ancient and outdated product with a speculative price tag.
     
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  15. DB628

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    TSW was always Overpriced, 36 or 40€ for a Single Route is a joke, plus when there is no new Train Like Mannheim with only 60 Kilometer likely.
     
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    When it comes to 'promises made' and not fulfilled, broken or faded into non-existence, is there a clear winner between TSW and SimRail?

    AFAIK nothing has been heard from SR's German and USA routes for a very long time already. Subcontractors losing faith in SR's management, financial incentives from SR's parent company and main creditor?

    And this Denis 'unbiased' praise of SR over TSW gives me a bad feeling over at least one of SR's developers.

    Still wishing for a reliable save game function in SR and a proper single player experience to give DTG some much needed competition in the train driving game market, forcing both studios to up their game in the console market.
     
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  17. OldVern

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    Oh yes, despite my current renewed enthusiasm for SimRail there is still much to be done. I certainly don’t agree that multiplayer is a substitute for a good single player experience and I suspect even if they don’t publicly acknowledge it, by bringing in this alpha save feature the devs are starting to realise they need a viable backup for the MP side of things.

    I need to investigate further later on why the save suddenly stopped working; maybe there was a silent update which overwrote the .conf file. We are also still waiting for the UI based scenario editor; the route editor seems to have fallen by the wayside, not surprising given you would have to make and work out the interlocking for all the signalboxes.
     
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  18. PseudoStalker

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    Did they added normal passengers?
     
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    Further to the alpha save - note this also does not appear to work with older (OG) scenarios. (Yet!).
     
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    I had been a fan of SimRail for the conductor part, even abandoning TSW, but after several hours of play :
    - lack of varied gameplay ;
    - lack of contents (train, route, scenario…) ;
    - unsightly landscapes and very repetitive ;
    - lack of a single player mode ;
    - lack of a free roam :
    - but also the lack of new content to revive the pleasure of playing.

    Positives points :
    - discover Polish content.
    - some trains that are pleasant to drive ;
    - multiplayer, but if there are few people on the server, it quickly gets boring after 10 minutes ; its advantage then becomes its worst fault.

    Finally, I returned to TSW, which met my expectations as a player solo.
     
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  21. Killer-Of-Night

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    I'm do like to know what Searchlight Simulations current status on their project for Simrail is, they've been pretty quite on it on all public channels recently. Unless their day jobs have them bogged down so much they haven't had time to development anything at this moment.
     
  22. flukey#4378

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    I don't think Simrail is cause for concern just yet as they aren't producing anything within UK/USA/Germany/Neth..
    When/if that time comes then maybe DTG will have stiffer competition and we might see better pricing but Simrail will still need to improve on single player and TT modes going off the feedback here!
    Until then while DTG keep releasing DLC in these area's without competition and across the three platforms I don't think we'll see similar pricing because there is no need to unfortunately. (as much as it hurts the hip pocket)

    Now when will we see a Microsoft Train Simulator 202X! ha!
     
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  23. Jpantera

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    The day DTG hopes never comes
     
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    I have been saying that for years. Hopefully, Train Simulator 20XX does come some day!
     
  25. jack#9468

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    People do, but DTG ignore them.
     
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    Do we have that route in game currently? (Not the 1960s version?)
     
  27. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    Because maybe more people are asking for modern EMU routes.
    DTG goes for the low hanging fruit.
     
  28. trainsimcz

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    You basically dont know what are you talking about... so SimRail was released (final release) just last december, now in the end of april it got first 100 km route DLC, so i dont think its that bad, compare to TSW (first DLC was like 50 km ?)

    Maybe you should go back in time when TSW was released... it was released with one freight route in March i think....and till september there was nothing, just that one freight US route (not that long, basically couple of scenarios, 2 locos and not that many services - compare to SimRail final release - even if i count EA release it got more then first TSW release. And then that wasnt many DLCs for TSW too in the beginning. Im not gonna even talk about all those false promises which they never deliver while devs of SimRail deliver much more in EA part then they promised ... and for free ...
     
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