Smaller Routes - A Possible Short Term Solution

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by acro, May 23, 2025.

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  1. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    At the end of the day no one should be having problems on the ps5. As a pc player I expect to run into issues using older hardware as games develop. Consoles on the other hand...
    Dtg as a developer should be on top of the issues. If the game isn't going to run on the hardware properly then don't sell it!
     
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  2. star#5823

    star#5823 Well-Known Member

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    Solution only make dlc and new tsw games for bigger market, oh look that’s console players,

    this is in response to all the people saying they should just dump consoles, why would a game company cut their biggest market lol
     
  3. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    Who is saying they should dump consoles?

    Just out of interest, how much was the discount on dlc with a reduced timetable for gen 8 consoles?
     
  4. FallenAngel00me

    FallenAngel00me Well-Known Member

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    There's context missing for your argument.

    With gen 8 content, if DTG had make the ps4 version cheaper, people would have bought that and then upgraded for free.

    With gen 9 only dlc, there's no free upgrade path. So a discount for less content is possible
     
  5. Calidore266

    Calidore266 Well-Known Member

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    Not just that, but "agrees with the developer"? I do not remember the developer saying that TSW doesn't belong on the consoles that reportedly make up 80% of the player base.
     
  6. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    That's a loophole dtg could have easily closed. And there shouldn't be any need for less content on 9th gen. One of my kids plays tsw5 with a ryzen 5 and a gtx1660 without issue. Both the Xbox and ps5 are superior.
     
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  7. Clumsy Pacer

    Clumsy Pacer Well-Known Member

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    How much RAM do the consoles have vs your kid's PC?
     
  8. 21c164fightercommand

    21c164fightercommand Well-Known Member

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    So for parity's sake and an equal player experience, DTG has two choices: either screw the console player or screw the PC player with less than is possible on his platform?
    All those console games are programmed on PC and then shoehorned into consoles?
    It's all on the programmers then, and here I think those big AAA gaming studios have the edge over DTG.
     
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  9. acro

    acro Well-Known Member

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    I don't really see how it's inflammatory to point out the fact that the product runs worse on Gen 9 and then ask how this could be mitigated over the next few releases. The reason I made the poll in the first place was to gauge the general opinion of people on here regarding what are two very likely outcomes at this current juncture. I entirely agree with you that the game should run better on Gen 9 hardware, but it doesn't. It doesn't even run that well on PC, you can just get away with more demanding/less optimised content because of the variety of hardware and the less strict nature of releasing unoptimised games on PC.

    Whether you believe that DTG are trying to make the product better or that they aren't, between now and the potential optimisations, they're going to have to change the way the handle routes. We cannot realistically expect them to pause all other development to solve these issues before releasing more content (even if it would be great if they did).
     
  10. FallenAngel00me

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    Oh I agree. Gen 9 can handle more than what DTG do
     
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  11. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    16gb of ram in he's pc. The consoles have 16gb shared memory, the Xbox has 10gb of that dedicated to vram. Not too sure about the ps5.
     
  12. addry#6825

    addry#6825 Well-Known Member

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    None of those survey options are the answer.

    The answer is time. Less time on dlcs and more time making the game run the best it can be.

    Dtg are trying to do both and don’t have the resource. I mean am I right to assume the dlc releases are much more frequent these days from what I remember?
     
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  13. bakedpotatos.jm

    bakedpotatos.jm Well-Known Member

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    Nope only one more DLC by them than last version and the same as TSW3 DLC.

    Just more 3rd parties.
     
  14. docsnyder1911

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    I think if there will not be much more optimization and concentrating on the core of the game, the trains and TSW itself, even highend gamer PCs can't handle future dlc's properly.
     
  15. addry#6825

    addry#6825 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, but surely DTG needs resources on those third parties?
     
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  16. bakedpotatos.jm

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    Not really, just the publishing part, very very minimal resources and not anyone involved with bug fixing, optimization or DLC creation.

    This is just par for the course, optimization has been a problem since Rush Hour TBH. In fact they stated after rush hour they were slowing down to focus on optimisation then bam TSW3.

    All these arguments in these forums are all repeats of years past.

    It's like a big Deja Vu.

    Why do resources seem tight this time of the year ...because they are working on routes, 2 locos and some new feature, plus desparately rewoking all the past DLC to also work with this new version releasing in September.

    Same old routine since TSW 2020 came out.

    Perhaps some of the memory issues could be the various trains we have multiple versions of like we have said for years now.

    Either way nothing is going to be fixed overnight and will take awhile to fix.

    So I'll just buckle up and enjoy what I get that works.
     
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  17. Sparmi

    Sparmi Well-Known Member

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    ...explains the situation quite well! PC players also have the option of using mods to further enhance their game. And many a modder has even become a developer in the end.

    One option would be to only produce Thomas and Friends DLCs until the 10th console generation arrives, so that the current hardware isn't overloaded and that seems to be the most economically lucrative. However, this would simultaneously alienate other regular players, so it's always a balancing act. But with a passionate Matt at the helm, we remain optimistic!

    A small consolation for DTG: other development studios are in the same situation. GTA6 won't have been delayed by a year for nothing, because optimizing it for consoles takes a lot of time. Sony probably also pays well for exclusive rights, so PC players won't be able to get their hands on it until 2027. But why do we always use GTA as an example? ;)
     
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  18. TrackingTrains

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    You know, I wouldn’t even be mad. Keep rolling out TTTT DLC to keep the lights on, use the proceeds to fix the core. I personally wouldn’t buy TTTT, but I’m sure many have so far, and regardless I am not buying anything extra until the core works better anyway
     
  19. star#5823

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    They could just bring out a few heavily requested locomotives like the class 55, class 56, class 70, class 91, any steam locomotive (real steam), and they would all sell like hot cakes and hell I wouldn’t be surprised if they would get enough fund half of the next game
     
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    TrackingTrains Well-Known Member

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    A 91 may even tempt me to break my purchasing hiatus!
     
  21. toms87

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    I would add another thing to that list. realistic German freight waggons and consists as gameplay packs layering on existing routes. We have hundreds of different european freight waggons in TSC.... TSW has like 10-15?
     
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