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Snow Hill Line - Uk

Discussion in 'Route Suggestions & Proposals' started by owenroser19, Mar 24, 2020.

  1. owenroser19

    owenroser19 New Member

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    I've got a suggestion for a UK route. It's the snow hill line from Birmingham Moore street to Worcester forget street/shrub hill. I believe it's about a 30-40 mile, so a nice length for a DLC, its teaming with class 172's and 170's. Chiltern railways also operate there DMU's (class 172, 168 and a few more) and there class 68's between Kidderminster and Birmingham. There is a chiltern depot at stourbridge that is about half way along this stretch and west Midlands railway have a depot at Worcester. I think it would be a really nice addition because there would be a mix of higher speed (chiltern services) and the local trains (west Midlands railway services). There are also a couple of class 153's that operate on this route sometimes that are owned by west Midlands railway and are a very nice iconic train. There is also a freight yard just outside of stourbridge junction that class 66's/60's run out of with steel trains towards Worcester, which would be a nice addition for the freight lovers out there. The scenery is fairly typical Britain but there are places along the way that make it interesting; multiple junctions where routes disperse and join, smethwick galton bridge station that features 2 levels, Birmingham in general with the well-known bullring shopping centre and skyscrapers, it features the least used station in Worcestershire that is Hartlebury, There are a lot of stations along here that still feature the original signal boxes, stations buildings and British railways feel and Worcester has the very old signals that you find on heritage railways which is very rare to see how and would be a nice addition, and lastly at Kidderminster you pass the start of the seven valley railway. I think this would be a really nice route with alot of different things to do and see.
    Would love to see it come one day :)
     
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  2. Factor41

    Factor41 Well-Known Member

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    This would potentially share some content with the Cross City line I suggested. If they could sort out at WM Trains license, they'd be able to double up on a fair bit of content across the two routes.

    Would be nice to pull in to Kidderminster and see a couple of steam trains on the Severn Valley Railway lines - even if they were only scenery at this point, like RRO's Wuppertal Schwebebahn.
     
  3. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    As a Stourbridge resident I would second this. The freight trains run over the old Walsall line as far as Brierley Hill, over the Stambermill viaduct which is a local landmark. I haven't seen a 60 round there for a very long time, the regular train is a class 66 (which I think are awful things)!

    The sidings are mainly used to store PW trains and Chiltern have their stabling point there.

    It would be good to include the town branch of course, the 153's operated it before the 139's.

    Personally I would have it set in 1980 with a class 116, 120 and a 25 and 45 for freight, but I know that wouldn't appeal to everyone.

    It would be a good route and would fit in length wise with TSW routes, as you say going from the modernity of Birmingham to the semaphores in the Droitwich and Worcester area is a good contrast.
     
  4. JJTimothy

    JJTimothy Well-Known Member

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    Stourbridge resident who moved away in 1981 here. I remember the line very fondly including the DMUs which seemed to be cattle class only but I didn't know better. Trains ran into New Street and the Dodger (the train to the town station) was a Class 121 or 122 in my day. I recall it overrunning the buffers at the town one day and finishing up with the front twenty feet or so hanging over the road past the bus station. The same unit is now running on the Weardale Railway a few minutes away from me.

    I'd very much like to see this in TSW or TS. Someone was having a go at building Stourbridge and the Town line for TS some time ago but it seemed to peter out.
     
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    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    Yes that was in 1977 it dropped in bogie onto Foster Street there are some photos of it, one is here (not mine)

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4554993353

    Something similar happened in 1989 and 1990 after the station had been moved slightly further up the line and the bus station built on the site of the old station. Both times the class 121 demolished the wall at the end of the buffers, the one in 1989 was the celebrity Midline liveried one and the next year it was 55032 which became the Arriva Trains Wales one.

    I think a 50's or early 60's creation of the route would be interesting if very short, you had the separate goods line down to the station which involved a very steep incline and I think only Pannier tanks were allowed to the basin. I modern day recreation would be pretty boring although attached to the Snow Hill lines would add a bit of variety I guess.
     
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    When I got there there was a Class 08 with four coaches that had been hitched up to the other end presumably to stop it going all the way over because it certainly wasn't towing anywhere. The word was going around that there were no casualties and Dad said, "wait until they lift that bogie and find a car under it".
     

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