Route Spoorlijn Zwolle - Groningen Feedback Thread

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  1. cyrill.kroonstuiver

    cyrill.kroonstuiver Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to have to disagree with this. At least unless it's toggleable to that nights can still be properly dark for those who want it to be that way.
    Nighttime driving, you're going to be in the dark, and not able to see most of it. It's actually one of the things I think this route does exceptionally well. Mostly because the NS ICM's light don't really illuminate anything, but only activate the reflecting surface of the signal posts. (don't know if that's the pic you posted or not. It doesn't load for me)
    It's supposed to feel that way. That's what driving a train at night is like.

    In fact, the nights used to be a lot brighter in older versions of the game. And it got a lot of critique for it.

    If you know how the signal posts work, this route in particular is entirely drivable at night, no problem. Thanks to Dutch signalling. Unlike lots of German, British and American routes which rarely announce stations through trackside signalling.

    Now, the game's lighting is a bit weird in general, in that I think just a few good tweaks in lighting, without even necessarily touching textures that much if at all, could make the game look *much* more realistic and vibrant. But that's more an overall thing, and not this specific route.

    Anyhow. Now that we're discussing light related things on this route.
    Devs, if you're reading this. AI driven NS ICM's *still* don't know how to turn on passenger lights! :mad:
    It's fairly annoying, as all dark ICM's that aren't doing empty stock moves driving by at night does kinda kill any immersion.
     
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    cyrill.kroonstuiver Well-Known Member

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    If you're having trouble with nighttime driving, and stopping properly, look for these, in the pircture provided below.
    They're "verkenborden", and they're used to announce stations.
    If you see it, apply light to medium brakes, and you should be able to stop about where you need to, with some adjustments.

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  3. ---DMY---

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    In fact I don't own this specific route, but yes, nighttime feels really very different from one route to the next.
    Just like it already was in TSC btw...

    That's a good idea, as it's already done in Uboat for example (WWII submarine simulator).
    Especially since we are not all equal when it comes to vision.
    Some are as blind as bats, while others could drive in the middle of the night without headlights ! :D
     
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    NPC Passenger Boarding Behavior – Logic/Condition Suggestion

    Hi,
    The biggest problem is that the NPCs are non existant on this map, they don't enter the train at every station almost, there is nobody at the stations, it kills the immersion, that's why I stopped playing, and I love this line... It should be flowing of passangers entering and getting out.. It's even worst in FREEROAM , when you want to complete several trips without going to the menu for 100% immersion, the NPCs completely disapear no one on the map, it's ghost town , this NEED TO BE FIXED... I'm on Xbox Serie X, and there is the same issue with London Overground ! This is very sad ! NPCs behavior should be fixed , other games it works fine, also problem all the NPCs never get off at the END OF THE LINE there are still in the trains, it kills the immersion, fix this and it would be really great. It's just a question of programming !
     

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    prxspective#1309 New Member

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    NPC Passenger Boarding Behavior

    Someone made a video that talk about this issue in TSW6... Thank you ! It helps the community !


     
  6. cyrill.kroonstuiver

    cyrill.kroonstuiver Well-Known Member

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    So, nearly a year after release, I'm still finding the following *SEVERE GAME ENDING BUG* which I believe I have reported before!
    Honestly can't believe this one is still in there, honestly.

    If you take the SNG out for more than a single service, like that which I'm doing right one (Groningen - Assen, Assen - Groningen), there's a reasonable (though not guaranteed) chance that on a second trip, the brake will suddenly start acting up.
    When this happens, whenever you attempt to apply any brake at all, the main air reservoir will go wild and starts ticking, dumping air, erratically applying brakes, locking the train in place permanently.
    There is a somewhat workaround, though it's unreliable, which is by switching off the "Halterem" which applies brakes when at 0 speed with no traction. Only it's not even a guarantee traction will be applied even with cleared brakes, and even in this mode, any braking action will erratically disturb the reservoir and erratically keep applying the brakes progressively no matter what your input is.

    In the two screenshots below, you can see how the reservoirs are dumping without any braking applied (other than the halterem)
    upload_2026-2-12_23-39-19.jpeg upload_2026-2-12_23-39-29.jpeg

    Below a single screenshot, after having let the reservoir refill, after enabling the halterem again for only a second or two:
    upload_2026-2-12_23-40-10.jpeg

    I know the problem is hard to replicate, and doesn't seem to be a guarantee either. "luckily" the issue seems to be preserved in saving the game. I can't seem to copy-paste a savefile from my SaveGames files in here. But if any dev is working on this and wants to reach out, I've saved this game, and the last checkpointsave, and backed them up seperately so they can be transferred if needed.
     
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