Spoorlijn Zwolle - Groningen

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  1. Dirk223

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    Nice catch, looks very different with one to many Y-Profile. Maybe DTG Alex can confirm if they can fix this?
     
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  2. matthias#7816

    matthias#7816 Active Member

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    Try searching up the exact title of the video on youtube: "Train driver's pov Amsterdam-Deventer 2018 Whistle"
     
  3. Pruikje

    Pruikje New Member

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    Hahaha yeah that is what I thought as well
     
  4. dutchtiger#2518

    dutchtiger#2518 New Member

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    Just a few more days to go, super excited for this one!

    Dont expect every little thing to be accurate, the second dutch route (if it is coming) will surely fix a lot of realism related issues such as the OHLE.
     
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  5. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Well we can probably extend a little bit of latitude with this one. Also, personally being on PC/Steam there will be a few hours lead in during which the console players will be posting their initial feedback to serve as a guide to whether the route is worth a Day One purchase.
     
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  6. matthias#7816

    matthias#7816 Active Member

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    I will! I'm on ps5 and ps4, so on 11 am i'll be your dutchman!
     
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  7. iriv#7314

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    freely translated: chocolatemilk with battle cream
     
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  8. matthias#7816

    matthias#7816 Active Member

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    My dutch sounds better, makker
     
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  9. thijsdenbraven

    thijsdenbraven Active Member

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    For some reason the link still does not show up, it looks to be a forum bug
     
  10. opark

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    It’s definitely there, just white.
     
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  11. matthias#7816

    matthias#7816 Active Member

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    Search this up thijsdenbraven
     
  12. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Are the safety system more complicated to use then Germany ones thanks.
     
  13. matthias#7816

    matthias#7816 Active Member

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    No, they are less complicated
     
  14. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks mate
     
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  15. matthias#7816

    matthias#7816 Active Member

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    You're welcome :)
     
  16. dutchtiger#2518

    dutchtiger#2518 New Member

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    3 days to go! All aboard the hype train!
     
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  17. thijsdenbraven

    thijsdenbraven Active Member

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    Awesome found it thanks :)
     
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  18. f__s_cw

    f__s_cw Active Member

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    Is this route actually going to be engaging and have lots of replay value? I’m really excited to try out the koploper and new safety systems, but I’m not sure if the route will be that fun to drive over and over again which I want to be able to do for £333
     
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  19. matthias#7816

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    Oh, our trains are very different. Not something you'll be used too. I very much think it's worth it since NS is VERY Cooperative (which will probably link to its quality xd) and we get 2 trains + 1 db vectron locomotive that's updated with atb and dutch train cabin announcements and language. Also included is conductor mode and bicycles along the road and much more. So i will definitely buy it at release.
     
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  20. thijsdenbraven

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    I just hope more Dutch routes will follow :) i need a Mat 54 and 64 Virm and SNG :)
     
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  21. matthias#7816

    matthias#7816 Active Member

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    Sng is already included in this route.
     
  22. f__s_cw

    f__s_cw Active Member

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    That’s cool, my only concern is that the route might feel a bit bland and repetitive because so much of it is a straight line
     
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  23. thijsdenbraven

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    Whoops autocorrect i meant SLT :)
     
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  24. matthias#7816

    matthias#7816 Active Member

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    Hahaha lol. Flirt would also be nice or dm90? Maybe even ddar? Or the traxx with icr-m
     
  25. thijsdenbraven

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    Ohhh great list :) the DDAR would be awesome to see
     
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  26. rickertff

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    What always interests me as a transport engineer is that Zwolle is one of the prime examples of what is called a "knooppuntdienstregeling" (which would freely translate to hub timetable). Around 10 past the hour (or 40) there are eleven trains coming into the station, which then comes alive with people changing trains, and around 20 past the hour (or 50) they all leave again. One of the first things I'll probably do is spawn on foot at Zwolle and watch the trains come in and go :)
     
  27. matthias#7816

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    Just 1 day and a couple hours left :)
     
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  28. nwp1

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    Really looking forward to tomorrow nights stream and l am sure that l will be buying this on Tuesday. Cannot see any reason why not to!!!
     
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  29. jester

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    While of course not everything is going to be perfect right off of the bat, having the 'it's not that deep' mentality is an incredible dangerous one, yes we can appreciate the stuff they got right for sure, I think it's also important to point out the stuff they got wrong, even if it seems minor to some, the overhead wires are something you will be seeing at basically every single moment you are driving, if no one points these things out it will allow standards to drop, which is something no one wants.

    So yes, of course it's great we're getting our first Dutch route, i'm definitely picking it up at release, we should not dismiss criticism of the stuff they got wrong, telling people to 'go outside' helps no one.
     
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  30. thijsdenbraven

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    Tomorrow at 8pm Netherlands time the stream should start :) cannot waittttt
     
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  31. nwp1

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    7pm UTC
     
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  32. matthias#7816

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    1 Day to go :)
     
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  36. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Definitely welcome all the constructive feedback to help us understand how we can improve for future routes. I'd love to make more Dutch content and I think for our first route the team have done a marvellous job - however as a train enthusiast myself I know for sure there will be details that have been missed and it will be good and very welcome to get that feedback from you as you see it and play it.

    Just to confirm, there won't be any changes to OHLE for this release as that's a sizeable task, but the point is one that we can take into any potential future projects along with other feedback.

    Thanks
    Matt.
     
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  37. matthias#7816

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    Matt! Thanks for the answer! I personally do not mind the OHLE wires, since that is such a small detail, and my dutch self cares more about the trains and stations. :D Looking at the project, it looks fantastic and everyone is hyped! We'll provide the feedback you need and most of us (like me) will buy it on release!! I want to be the first buyer LOL
     
  38. thijsdenbraven

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    Cannot wait for the preview stream tonight :)
     
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  39. thijsdenbraven

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    You will have to beat me first :) i will be on Xbox at 11.00 sharp :)
     
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  40. matthias#7816

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    Raaaagh, it's that i have classes on 11 am
    But i'll pay with ideal whilst in class hahahaahh
     
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  41. thijsdenbraven

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    I have work at 12.45 so i can atleast do 1 run with the ICMm :)
     
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  42. matthias#7816

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    Oneerlijk :mad:
     
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  43. Sharon E

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    While you guys enjoy your first run, those of us using Steam will wait until early afternoon EST in the US and later in Europe to get our first crack at it.
     
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  44. Rutgerski

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    But at least we'll be able to make a more informed decision :)
     
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  45. razmatus#2517

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    oh man this is the thing I am so looking forward to tomorrow :)
     
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  46. Sharon E

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    I really do not think so much. Consoles have their own set of issues which we will be hearing about, none of these really have any bearing on how the dlc will perform on my pc. Things like the incorrect catenary support structure don't bother me in the least, so also, have no bearing on my decision to buy or not.
     
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  47. matthias#7816

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    Me too :)
     
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  48. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    checked the articles and I think I will be able to drive those runs without penalties :D ... kinda looks like more PZB but with almost UK kind of benevolence :D ... I will surely do the tutorials first, then jump right in the passenger stuff :)
     
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  49. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    anyway, just went over the ATB article, and one thing I dont understand fully... lets say in German system (PZB), you usually have a sign letting you know of upcoming restriction, and sometimes a magnet as well... in UK, sometimes you have a sign letting you know, more often just AWS beeping... so my question is - what and how does let you know that a speed restriction is coming? like, how far in advance are you notified of an upcoming change? ... maybe I just havent read it well enough, dunno :)
     
  50. grdaniel48

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    I agree with you!.
    But please consider, if DTG does not fix a "simple issue"... like the panto graph height, on the BR 193 Vectron - , does not match the one of the wires...,being one of the most important locomotives of the modern era of the game, - and it is noticeable from the outside of the locomotive, it is difficult to expect that.
     

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