"Dis is de class four tausand, olso known as de kaploapah, in de blew yellow livery of de dush nashenal railways, NS. Lets wok too de front of de trane. Dis is de driver seat, wer yu will do de most of de wurk. Have a seat."
Thank you for telling me about that. In the future they should make this route hopping compatible with Bremen Oldenburg by filling in the missing 129 km Oldenburg Hbf Leer(Ostf) Bad Nieuwschans Groningen. If you are wondering why I mentioned Leer(Ostf) it is actually the main Junction between Bremen Oldenburg Groningen route with Köln Hbf Osnabrück Emden line. You can actually program that German City on Bremen 425s.
In Germany, "BR" stands for "Baureihe" (German for "Class"), where in the UK it once stood for "British Rail". So in the UK, although you could in theory write "BR 101" and every train nut would get what you mean, the correct way of writing is "BR Class 101". Modern, post-British Rail stock is usually referred to as "Class xxx", dropping the "BR", as British Rail nowadays is a glimmer of nostalgia to a time where rail travel in the UK was dependable and affordable. But I digress... Generally speaking, none of the manufacturers use the "BR" classification internally or when selling their stok outside of Germany. For example, the BR 146.2/146.5 is sold as the type "F160", while both the BR185.5 and the BR186 are sold as "F140MS" by Bombardier as they're basically the same loco with a different option package. The BR408 (ICE 3 neo) is sold as the Velaro MS by Siemens. It gets a bit confusing, as some rail leasing companies label their leasable stock using the german class system (F140 as E186 for example even when owned by a UK company (QAngel Trains in this example) and leased to a party outside of Germany (like NS, SNCF or NMBS). The same goes for the BR193, which is sold as the "Vectron MS" by its manufacturer Siemens, but still designated as the "E193" by ELL (for example).
#vanlinksnaarrechts Train Sim World 5 gets its first route in the Netherlands. So now is the time to start a Dutch-language Facebook group. I am busy setting everything up properly so that we can have a nice group page there where everything about Train Sim World can be found, in Dutch. So I need your help to get enough members as quickly as possible. Do you like trains? Do you play Train Sim World or are you planning to? Then become a member of this new Dutch-speaking group especially for Dutch-speaking players and so our friends from Belgium are also very welcome! Train Sim World Nederland en België facebook.com/groups/tsw.nl.be
Yeah i dindt see any advantage point here.... This forum is enough for me to follow. Besides if there is something that needs an investigation by the team a Dutch group will do noting
We could also start a Japanese-speaking group, but someone else will have to do that because I'm busy here right now
I like your enthusiasm, but I don't do facebook so I'll remain here Besides, these forum discussions are public which I think is incredibly valuable. Too many facebook groups are closed off (the 8-bit guy's Commander X16 development as a case in point) which is a real bummer.
Yeah, and frankly, I think the focus should be on generating support from the foreign fanbase that isn't yet aware of what the Netherlands would have to offer. Yeah, as someone who has spend a year studying English at university, we really aren't as fluent as we'd like to believe We're generally pretty intelligible though, which is a good thing, but it creates an illusion of fluency (Disclaimer: only a year. Didn't finish it unfortunately. Found out I didn't like it as much as I thought I would, and also, it was way too expensive to continue)
a nice video with a headcamera of this route. There is a lot of camera motion sway up there Also included at the start a whistling course as they can't buy whistles anymore so they have to whistle on their fingers now
I can't wait to hop in the cab of the ICM. I like how all the buttons and gauges aren't too modern, and the view from up high is something to experience too.
Personally I'm hoping they'll get the warm lighting of the ICM right, as well as the heavy driving sounds and the loud clicks of the cab switches. Also, they probably won't, but just for the sake of freedom, it'd be neat if they also included the empty inside of the nose of the train, as visible in this video: As for functionality, of course I'm hoping for it to be as faithful as possible, including proper door controls and inclusion of the conductor's room. Especially if there's going to be conductor's mode anyways. Though you'll probably still be able to just magically open locked doors still. (Which I hate) Also would be nice if, even if it only works visually, they included the GSM-R like the Expert BR DB 101, at least to just log in and out. Even if it doesn't do anything practical. And also, let's not forget. The cab is generally very dark, even during daytime. I really hope they don't make the cab too bright and that the side windows are somewhat darkened. Also +1 if they include the always slightly visible slightlt dirtier half circle on the main window at the parts where the wiper can't reach.
Also, for better immersion, sound effects of a sticky floor when walking through the carriages should be added. And gum on seats, and stains from undefined substances spread throughout the train.
I wouldn't be surprised if NS has told DTG they want their trains to look clean. I suspect they see it kinda like an advertisement. NS wouldn't be cooperating if there wouldn't be something for them to gain, would they?
Understandable, though just as long as they aren't so clean that they start looking plastic-like like some German trains in the game, specifically DoStos. Hoping for some realistic weathering
Granted, NS will have had some wishes. And some sacrifices would have to be made. So clean trains, no graffiti, and not being stabbed or punched while playing in conductor mode, I reckon.
Come to think of it, there is one slight worry I have about this route in how they'll execute it, particularly at station Hoogeveen and a little bit Meppel. These stations have underpasses. As do a lot, of course. But I'm going to guess that the check-in gates are going to be the boundraries for the stations, and that you cannot move in front of most main buildings, possibly with the exception of Zwolle and Groningen. Problem I'm foreseeing though is that the underpass at Hoogeveen from platform 2 ends at the other side of the gates. So, if I recall, if you want to go from 1 to 2 and back, you're going to have to check-out at the gates for one platform, and then check in at the gates for the other one. Meppel has this too, but without gates, just that the underpass ends closer to front of the main building. So, I'm hoping DTG aren't gonna create a situation in which the only viable way to switch platform is to pass the tracks.
I'm happy that they are now putting a lot of effort into giving us the most realistic simulated experience possible. As a Dutch player, I have purchased all the German DLC, so I hope that the German players will also purchase this route so that it will be a great financial success for DTG. Only then is there a chance that they will develop more routes in the Netherlands.
I do hope they let us out a bit in Assen as well, it would be such a shame not to be able to walk up to Mannes, the massive dog statue right in front of the station:
Yeah, I'm personally hoping that mainly for Zwolle. The main building as seen from the almost park like street is beautiful. Also, aside from some bushes, it's not the most complicated thing to model either, and they're gonna have to do the main building anyways cause you can see it from platform 16. Though 15 and 16 will not feature any services on this route, including AI layers as that's where the Arriva trains to Emmen go.
Bonjour, you can also count on some French people. A friend and I own all the Dutchsims.nl lines for TSC: you've done a fantastic job (the Dutch community) and developed all the assets from A to Z... Of course for me the line for TSW5 will be bought...
You have my support for Belgian routes, but I still think the chances of it actually happening are quite low. But who knows. DTG surprised me with a Dutch route which I wasn't expecting, perhaps they'll have a Belgian surprise in the future too.
NL is a big step in bringing hope that DTG will actually expand. The ICM & SNG are really great starting locos too, so hopefully this won’t be a repeat of France.
Maastricht to Liege via Visé might make for something really scenic; that part of the Meuse has some Linker Rheinstrecke-vibes. And I would not be opposed to seeing Antwerp's central station recreated: all 4 levels of it, including the ground floor concourses.
Nah, Groningen-Den Haag route is good, i am dutch myself, live in amsterdam, and i use this route a lot. It is also easy for DVG to make it, since it covers groningen-zwolle lijn at it's fullest, which they also have the assets for, and then make all the stations they need next, it also covers lelystad, almere, amsterdam zuid and schiphol. Definetely a must do next after zwolle-groningen. Also it has more rolling stock, like the Virm(m) and the DDZ. Which both are doubledeckers.
Surprised, yes, but partially also not actually. I recount Matt saying on multiple occasion on a livestream that the Netherlands and the ICM Koploper were some of his personal favorite candidates to include in the game. But this was quite a while ago when asked, and he did also specify that these were his personal opinions I recall. Not to say that Matt's personal whims are what dictates future route content decisions (if it were, we all know that we'd be getting all the routes with trains with pink liveries first ) but still, it does mean we had a strong voice for us present in the important meetings.
After all i have seen from TSW 5 on youtube from the Ambassadors. The Frankfurt-Fulda is the best. San Bernardino is of zero interrest for me as i dont like the slow boring USA stuff. WCML is below standard. Pendolino is nice but much like a Class 43 on GWR 30 min non stop drive A to B. Maybe a stop in between on some services. I'll get the free upgrade for tsw 5 And wait for the Zwolle-Groningen route. And hope DTG makes more and more Dutch routes in the near future! Please do!!
Yeah, same idea for now. Though I do plan on getting the Deluxe during a sale for the routes to use conductor mode and for Frankfurt - Fulda. Maybe if the discount is steep enough even the Special Edition, though the only thing that I'd get out of that which I don't yet have is the Suffraggete Line so only if the price difference between Deluxe and Special are less than getting that route independently. Also, I do want to support DTG now that there's content on the table I'm actually interested in, and now that this update actually feels sizable.
I too want to support DTG now that they're making a Dutch route. I've put some money aside to purchase Spoorlijn Zwolle - Groningen as soon as it releases, and I rarely buy stuff at full price. As for TSW5... none of the routes really interest me, so I went with the free edition. I'll likely buy one of the other editions on a good discount during the 2025 Summer Sale or something.
Tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday are Raildays in the Netherlands. A lot of railway businesses open up their doors. "Het Spoorwegmuseum" (the national railway museum) in Utrecht has open days too, which means most of their trains are open and can be visited, including the just acquired ICM 4011. For more info... https://raildagen.nl/
Very nice, just see this announcement now. At the moment I'm traveling once a month on this route. Live in the West . I wonder how they will display the station of Groningen because it's a huge construction site for a couple of years. But I definitely support this .
Since the SNG is included with the route, the depicted era will have to be after 2019. So huge construction pit it is But some artistic freedom may be applied though....
Don't think so, personally. I mean, they're usually set on making it as correct as it is in the specific window of time they're making it. Personally, I'm hoping the route will be set in early 2023 or late 2022. But we'll see. As for Groningen. I mean, they're probably gonna make it look like the construction site is currently is.
Here is a link to the virtual tour of the SNG cab, the local train that will be included in this route. https://www.onlineinbeeld.nl/VirtueleTour/Utrecht-Ns-Cabines/sng.html You can also view several other trains including Thalys and Eurostar by clicking the blue arrow at the top-left.
Both trains are so different.... Bizar what time stamp are both in.... The modern computer train SNG and the 40 years old ICMm train with noting like computer but mechanic machine.
The cab of the SNG reminds me of the average modern German EMU. Needless to say, I'm looking forward to the ICMm more than the SNG.
DTG could easily expand the services on the route by releasing a few repaints (or the community could do it). Shunting can be done with a recolour of the BR Class 08 that's included with Tees Valley Line. NS used to operate these engines until the mid-90s. Quite a large number of these survive as museum locomotives and with private rail operators. The Vectron and Class (1)66 run with private rail operators the Netherlands as well (Vectron also with NS, but not on this route). NS Class 500/600/700 (pretty much identical to the BR Class 08): NedTrain, Shortlines, DB Cargo (formerly Railion Netherlands), ERS and Rotterdam Rail Feeding operate (or used to operate) Class 66 locomotives in The Netherlands: Vectron is operated by SBB Cargo International, Rail Force One (with their iconic "shark mouth" livery), ELL and a few others and can run on this route: For good measure: this is the NS Vectron, which doesn't run on this route bar some appearances as part of their acceptance tests in the past: The ICE 3M included with Cologne - Aachen is also certified for use in the Netherlands, but never ran on the Groningen - Zwolle route. They might have during their original acceptance tests though, so maybe some semi-realistic fantasy scenario could be dreamed up featuring this train.
I dont think they will add them... The lack of ATB is the problem. What possible is they will create a Vectron with ATB other locos are more unlikely
I kinda think that's the point actually too, in why they chose these two in particular. The ICM is the obvious star of the show, but the SNG is relatively easy to make as it's not that different from the DB 425. Though I will say, I really hope the NS trains made by DTG will be controlled a bit like Christrains' versions in TSC. That exactly. Though I'm still hoping to someday see either a Dutch or German Class 66 variant.
