Creation Sharing Stuttgart - Wuerzburg (frankenbahn)stw

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  1. BlackPulsar

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    Hey guys, today I'll show you the first pictures of the Frankenbahn.
    The terrain has already been generated and the first scenery objects have already been created.
    The route officially goes from Stuttgart to Wuerzburg, with the RE8 as the BR110/BR146 with KWG Dostos(Working Displays) and as the BR143 with n Wagen, The RB85 with BR425 and BR628VR as double traction.
    Stuttgart Central Station will be set around 2002, and Wuerzburg Central Station will be set around 2005.

    The total travel time of the RE8 from Wuerzburg to Stuttgart is approximately 2 hours and 15 minutes due to the average speed of 100km/h.

    The RB 85 with BR 425 runs from Wuerzburg to Osterburken, The RB 85 with BR 628 runs from Würzburg to Lauda or Bad Mergentheim and then drives back to Wuerzburg on track 2 or track 3.
    All German trains that are available in the TSW can be driven on the Frankenbahn route. The 642 can also be driven as an RB85 and the BR232 can be driven from the Kornwestheim freight station (to Realease).

    Possible long-distance trains from Stuttgart are still in the future, possible stations if the editor goes along with everything are: Karlsruhe HBF(IRE1,IC), Mannheim HBF via SFS and Heidelberg HBF(ICE,IC,EC,TGV), Crailsheim Bf(IC, ICE trains), Ulm HBF (IC with BR218).

    Possible additional local trains: Osterburken(S1,MEX 18), Mosbach-Neckarelz(S1,S2,RB Ulm), Heilbronn HBF(RE10,S41), Bruchsal(S3),

    I know it looks like a lot at the moment, but overall there isn't as much to do on the route as it looks.

    more details in future updates
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  2. lirian#1857

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    sind das fahrgeschäfte?
     
  3. Myron

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    I wouldn't recommend using the KWG Dostos because the control car has it's highbeam permanently on, even when turning off headlights, opening the MCB and whatever, until you just cut off the battery. red and white lights at the same time do not look good, right?
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  4. BlackPulsar

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    Ja, Szenerie für Stuttgart Bad Cannstatt
     
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  5. BlackPulsar

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    I use just the Middle Cars from KWG with the Working FIS Displays inside. For the Cabcar, i use a different Cabcar, maybe from MSB or something.
     
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  6. Matin_TSP

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    Excited! Let us know more when you're ready to share stuff.
     
  7. colinL

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    Do you plan to maybe do the S3 at Bruchsal running from Karlsruhe to Germersheim? It's my home route, can you possibly elaborate which part of the route you'd do?
     
  8. Spikee1975

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    No, I need my home route Karlsruhe - Rastatt (even better the Murgtalbahn to Freudenstadt). Gruß in die Pfalz :D
     
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  9. BlackPulsar

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    Should be possible to build the S3 and S4. I have already generated the part of the route to Philippsburg AKW, and the short part from Ludwigshafen to Germersheim is also possible.
    The part of the route from Karlsruhe to Mannheim via SFS and Heidelberg Hbf is already planned for ICE and IC trains from Stuttgart
     
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  10. BlackPulsar

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    I can't promise that Karlsruhe - Rastatt will be under construction. Because most of my trains end in Karlsruhe or then continue to Manheim
     
  11. Spikee1975

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    Alla hopp ;)
     
  12. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    If you try using the Nahverkehr Dresden Steuerwagen 767.2 766.2 you actually encounter this problem Sifa foot peda can't acknowledge therefore use the side Sifa switch to get it going
     
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  13. colinL

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    Sounds great, lets see if this will be reality :)
     
  14. sammy#2082

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    Can I ask where you got the Lidar data from? Im searching it for building some routes around Stuttgart? (Grüße aus Stuttgart)
     
  15. BlackPulsar

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    Lidar daten für Baden Württemberg sind so unfassbar Teuer, das ich nur mit den SRTM daten arbeite. BW ist sowieso so Flach das es kaum einen Unterschied macht ob ich Lidar benutze oder nicht.
    Hier bekommt man die Teuren DGM daten:
    Landesamt für Geoinformation und Landentwicklung
     
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  16. BlackPulsar

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    Small Update: Große Schalterhalle(Large Ticket Hall)
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  17. xtrame90

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    Könnt ihr mal Englisch reden?
     
  18. BlackPulsar

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    The Name of this is: Große Schalterhalle, i dont realy know a English name for this, maybe Large Tickethall ore somthing like that.
     
  19. hobby#9626

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    The Bonatzbau building looks very good. I am very excited about Stuttgart, I have always wished for it and now finally there is a home in TSW 4. Thank you for taking on the task and building a route from Stuttgart, I am grateful to you for that.
     
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  20. paulhdhd#3728

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    Wirst du auch die S bahn Linie S41 nachbauen ?mit den entschprechenden Fahrzeugen also mit dem ET2010?
     
  21. BlackPulsar

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    Die S41 bis Mosbach(Baden) wird auf jeden fall auch gebaut, nur den ET2010 kann ich nicht bauen. Dafür muss dann der ET423, oder ein ähnlich geeignetes Fahrzeug als Ersatz, vielleicht die BR642 herhalten. Weiß ich aber noch nicht genau welches Fahrzeug.

    The S41 to Mosbach(Baden) will definitely be built, but I can't build the ET2010. For this, the ET423, or a similarly suitable vehicle as a replacement, perhaps the BR642, will have to serve. But I don't know exactly which vehicle yet.
     
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  22. paulhdhd#3728

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    Ah okay gibt es da keine möglichkeit das das nimmand danderes für dich baut den ET2010 ich könnte blider liefern vom füherstand etc.Natürlich dann mit absprache der AVG und KVV
     
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    Please speak English in this forum, it’s the rules.
     
  24. bennitweety#5692

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    MonacoCharlie Was ist denn daran so schlimm wenn er nicht Englisch sondern Deutsch spricht? Die die kein Deutsch verstehen können doch sich das im Google Übersetzer übersetzen lassen?
     
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  26. bennitweety#5692

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    Ok in Ordnung! Ich verstehe es und ja du bist nicht die Forum Polizei, das habe ich auch verstanden Ok, alright! I get it and yes you are not the forum police, I understand that too Schönen Abend dir noch: fceschmidt Have a nice evening: fceschmidt
     
  27. bennitweety#5692

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    Und übrigens bin ich natürlich auch ein Fan des Projektes And by the way, I'm also a fan of the project
     
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  28. BlackPulsar

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    Ich wüsste jetzt keinen der das Fahrzeug, bauen könnte, aber wer mag kann sich ja dran machen.

    I don't know anyone who could build the vehicle, but if you like, you can get to it.
     
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  29. hp1+vr2

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    da auf der strecke in reallife Flirt 3 fahren, könnte ich dir empfehlen dich mal mit nourthelokdriver in Verbindung zu setzen

    Since in reallife flirt 3 is driving on that route, I would recommend that you get in touch with nourthelokdriver
     
  30. Trainspotting Norden

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    How do you make all those objects for your Route? How do you make all the Station, is there a good tutorial?
     
  31. BlackPulsar

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    Ich Baue alle Modelle mit Blender. Ich nehme mir meistens die Maße von Google Earth Pro mit dem Lineal Werkzeug. Viel nehme ich auch von Bilder, Videos und Streetview, was halt soweit brauchbar und verfügbar ist. Für viele Dinge im Bahnhof Stuttgart HBF, musste ich oft Realistische ungefähre Maße nehmen, weil nichts an Maßen vorhanden war. Tutorial hab ich keines, weil ich auch von Anfang an eine Modmap für "The Bus" Baue (Seit der Modeditor draußen ist) und vorher mit Unity gearbeitet habe. Viele einfache Bahnsteige, kann man auch mit dem Normalen TSW Bahnsteig tool Bauen. zum Beispiel ein Haltepunkt mit nur zwei Bahnsteigen wie Heilbronn Sülmertor.

    I build all models with Blender. I usually take the measurements of Google Earth Pro with the ruler tool. I also take a lot from pictures, videos and Streetview, which is usable and available as far as possible. For many things at Stuttgart Central Station, I often had to take realistic approximate measurements because there was nothing in the way of measurements. I don't have a tutorial because I've been building a modmap for "The Bus" since the beginning(Since the mod editor is out) and have worked with Unity before. Many simple platforms can also be built with the normal TSW platform tool. for example, a station with only two platforms, such as Heilbronn Sülmertor.
     
  32. BlackPulsar

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    Kann ich machen, allerdings ist der Fokus der Strecke mehr auf die Zeit vor GoAhead. Hauptsächlich die BR143 mit bnr und bnrdzf, Die BR111(110) /BR146 mit Doppelstockwagen, Die BR628 in Mint und VR und die BR218 mit bnr Mint, die den RB/RE Würzburg - Heilbronn gefahren hat. Die Bahnhöfe sind auch alle auf dem Stand der frühen 2000er.

    I can do that, but the focus of the track is more on the time before GoAhead. Mainly the BR143 with bnr and bnrdzf, the BR111(110) /BR146 with double-decker coaches, the BR628 in Mint and VR and the BR218 with bnr Mint, which ran the RB/RE Würzburg - Heilbronn. The stations are also all at the level of the early 2000s.
     
  33. Trainspotting Norden

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    erstmal natürlich vielen Dank! Wo finde ich das TSW Bahnsteigstool?

    thanks you very much! Where do I find the platform tool?
     
  34. BlackPulsar

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    "Network Edit Mode" und dann das "Offset Loft Tool" müsste es sein. Hab damit noch nicht viel gemacht.

    It should be "Network Edit Mode" and then the "Offset Loft Tool". Haven't done much with it yet.
     
  35. hp1+vr2

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    are there any news on the route?
     
  36. BlackPulsar

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    UPDATE1/2: Stuttgart HBF Die Querhalle, die Große schalter halle und die kleine Schalter halle, sind fast Fertig, es fehlen Hauptsächlich nur noch Kleinigkeiten und das Dach der Bahnsteige. Der Lift zur S-Bahn, soll wenn möglich auch Benutzbar sein am Ende. Aus Lizenz gründen muss ich hier in der Querhalle Fake Marken benutzen.

    The transverse hall, the large counter hall and the small counter hall, are almost finished, mainly only small things and the roof of the platforms are missing. The lift to the S-Bahn should also be usable at the end, if possible. For licensing reasons, I have to use fake stamps here in the transverse hall.
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  37. BlackPulsar

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    UPDATE 2/2: Stuttgart HBF
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    Extra UPDATE: Stuttgart HBF Platform test on KWG/ stairs to S-Bahn
     
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  39. hp1+vr2

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    dont forget the christmas tree in the halle! the single time i was there was at christmas time. i miss the station with the bonatzbau open and all tracks full with 143/114. what happened to this alterschutz thing? DB is just going against it . destroying the inside of the bonatzbau , it is sad how such a impressive station gets deranked to an haltepunkt.. and the whole bonatzbau made to LOVE
     
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  40. kiru#6503

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    Could you please make the S Bahn Route Osterburken - Homburg (Saar) HBf? This is the longest s bahn route in germany. I live in Mosbach and this route goes through Mosbach . It would be great to have this route maybe only to Heidelberg.
     
  41. BlackPulsar

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    Die S1 und S2 sind schon lange geplant. Osterburken - Mos-Neckarelz und über Möckmühl der RE8, ist teil der Default strecke. Geplant ist die S1 bis Ludwigshafen HBF/Limburgerhof Und die S2 bis Heidelberg/Eberbach, Und geht dann Richtung Speyer für den S3, S4, Bruchsal und Karlsruhe/Philippsburg AKW. Die S1 und S2 spielen aber um das Jahr 2009.

    The S1 and S2 have been planned for a long time. Osterburken - Mos-Neckarelz and via Möckmühl the RE8, is part of the standard route. Planned is the S1 to Ludwigshafen HBF/Limburgerhof and the S2 to Heidelberg/Eberbach, and then goes towards Speyer for the S3, S4, Bruchsal and Karlsruhe/Philippsburg nuclear power plant. However, the S1 and S2 are set around the year 2009.
     
  42. BlackPulsar

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    I dont realy know, but this are all the possible Trains, The Main Route is Würzburg - Stuttgart.
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  43. kiru#6503

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    Boah ich danke dir so vielmals!! Würde mich mega freuen wenn ich mal meine Stadt sehen würde. Das wäre megaa. Danke für die Infos ^^
     
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    First of all, a fantastic route you've chosen there. The pictures of Stuttgart station are truly impressive, and I'm glad that you're putting in the effort to depict the station as it was and even make it accessible. This way, the old Bonatz building will also be remembered before S21. Dealing with trademarks is a tricky matter; it's often tolerated as long as no money is involved. However, I understand your caution and preference to play it safe. Just don't get lost in too many side projects; focus on what you can build first. I wish you the best of luck and success.

    Erst einmal eine großartige Strecke, die du dir da ausgesucht hast. Die Bilder vom Bahnhof Stuttgart sind wirklich beeindruckend, und es freut mich, dass du dir die Mühe machst, den Bahnhof so darzustellen, wie er war, und ihn sogar begehbar gestaltest. Damit bleibt auch der alte Bonatzbau vor S21 in Erinnerung. Mit den Marken ist das so eine Sache, oft wird es geduldet, solange man kein Geld dafür nimmt. Aber ich kann verstehen, dass du dich da scheust und lieber auf Nummer sicher gehen möchtest. Verliere dich nur nicht in zu vielen Nebenprojekten, sondern konzentriere dich erst einmal auf das, was du zuerst bauen kannst. Ich drücke dir die Daumen und wünsche dir viel Erfolg dabei.
     
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  45. BlackPulsar

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    Update: Stuttgart HBF

     
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  46. sergey1989

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    really good. looking into this. i will mss the hbf in some years. it is a really good station where you get from one to the next train. the hbf is normally so old that it cant be demolished. DB should get sued for that.
     
  47. kiru#6503

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    Love it!!!
     
  48. BlackPulsar

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    New Update

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    The pictures are giving me real goosebumps right now. I've been to this station so many times, and it brings back a lot of memories. Last year, I was in the gutted Bonatz building and thought I would never see the old station again the way it used to be. And now, it's emerging in 3D. I'm really looking forward to the finished building.
     
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    are there any new news?
     

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