Summer Big Three Sweepstake

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  1. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    Sadly I think you're right no matter where you come from. Just imagine if DTG did do routes customers wanted, I wonder what their sales would be like then?
     
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  2. Jpantera

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    They only want WCML, ECML and Merseyrail if suggestions are to be followed.
     
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  3. chieflongshin

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    I think he did cambridge to Peterborough which would be a lovely little add on route with whitemoor yard, more so If a longer project connected it to new street
     
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  4. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    I have always wondered how much of a cash cow a ECML or WCML would be
     
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  5. Jpantera

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    We already have the WCML in SoS and that sold well although many won't acknowledge its as WCML as it doesn't have full GSMROnehandleandflyingmoths....


    We also have the ECML in TVL but I will just leave that there.....
     
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  6. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Given the extent of the Glossop Line, Darlington South to Darlington North would be a fantastic bargain at £39.99... :) :)
     
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  7. west coastway trains

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    The DB BR 420 has been on the roadmap for the best part of 2 years now but has not been talked about all that much. I suspect alongside releasing for HMA, it could also be part of the German summer route
     
  8. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    The 420 isn't releasing any time soon. It's not even in a drivable state yet. Tsg is busy helping dtg since that takes priority over third party content. Another reason is that hma requires a optimization pass or passes to accommodate the 420 which is also dtgs responsibility so until that happens, no 420. These are all what dtg and tsg have said
     
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  9. uvm0902

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    I would be happy if 3 old routes were presented as a summer package, upgraded to new standards and a little extension.

    My desires are related to:
    - new LIRR (new timetable, lighting, landscapes, signaling, freight traffic, DE/DM30);
    - new Brighton line (lighting, class 700/1 with its own schedule, extension to East Croydon - London Bridge, East Coast extension to Eastbourne via Lewes);
    - new Ruhr Sieg Nord (extension to Siegen, new timetable, new lighting, new vegetation, landscape improvements)

    This would be the perfect gift for me!!!! But it won't! Because it's too good!
     
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  10. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    For the Blue Mountains route in New South Wales which one is it the 1910 tunnels where they got modified to fit D sets 2015-2022 and the first 1979 Slab Tracks V sets or the Zig Zag route. If it's the 1910 tunnels remember V sets can hold standing room only behind the driver I've done it before Granville to Paramatta on a 1989 build 8143 however we had a broken air conditioning unit.
     
  11. Quentin

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    Chiltern Line FTW. Just Trains have it for TSC, we've already (almost) got a 165, so only need to add express passenger services hauled by class 68+DVT. London-Banbury would be ideal length.
     
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  12. jiroo#5329

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    I'm not 100% sure but I think they don't have Chiltern Railways licence anymore :(
     
  13. Some of this is based on information received and hint from Niddletalbahn.... **


    I guess after Glossop line is released we might get some hints dropped....

    Something big is in the offing.... I hope ROFL


    Paris to Rennes TGV... (give us a race car in Le Mans for a novelty LOL)

    Sydney (Australia) Parramatta urban route

    Japan Odakyu Line *

    Western Lines of Scotland *


    ** Black Forrest route or that area in SW Germany?

    * my ideas but others are from hints and tips....
     
  14. I do think we are due for a major UK release (WCML or ECML or GEML Ipswich) and a US freight route like Marias or Donner Pass etc....
     
  15. Is Matt hinting at ECML?
     
  16. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Still don't get how a German route has a connection with an Australian or French route.
     
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  17. Might come out in January and not be part of a big release... no idea...
     
  18. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Where has this been confirmed and what's your source? You can't just go believing everything someone says is true. It's not even on the roadmap and unless dtg has a license they can't create it.
     
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  19. Cael

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    My guess for the three releases is:
    UK - either some part of ECML/WCML or something for the CL 700.
    DE - Route from a huge terminus, I would imagine Frankfurt, Berlin or Hannover to somewhere closeby.
    US - no idea there, probably freight-based or some commuter (Miami, California?)

    If they go the extension route, I would actually love to see the rework and extension of HRR, with the addition of Dortmund, Düsseldorf or possibly even Köln. Oberhausen Hbf is also very close.
     
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  20. OldVern

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    Perhaps the German plan is to link one or more of the existing Ruhr routes. We have several short routes, nothing at Düsseldorf or Moenchen Gladbach all of which could be joined to facilitate a super network. Fix the save game so that taking over subsequent trains doesn’t bork and you could keep driving or riding all day.
     
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  21. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    If anything, if we were to get mergers, Germany would have an absolute behemoth of a network on TSW
     
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  22. cloudyskies21

    cloudyskies21 Well-Known Member

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    That's very interesting, thanks for taking the time to explain traindori - much appreciated! :)
     
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  23. cloudyskies21

    cloudyskies21 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely in agreement, I'd love to see these!

    For the summer, for a change I'd much rather see three very popular, high quality existing TSW routes get the TOD 4 update and a substantial timetable upgrade instead of completely new content. So many great routes already that need just that vital timetable improvement (and more loco DLC!).
     
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  24. lovetrains 3628

    lovetrains 3628 Active Member

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    isnt there a to be announced stream on the railfan tv this week
     
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  25. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Yes there is, but I don't think it would be a route announcement for the summer
     
  26. lovetrains 3628

    lovetrains 3628 Active Member

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    thats true but is there a possibitly
     
  27. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    I suspect its more likely JT announcement tbh
     
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  28. Swisstrains

    Swisstrains Well-Known Member

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    To be honest for Germany I would love:
    1. Freiburg-Basel
    2. Mannheim-Karlsruhe
    3. Frakfurt-Kassel (bit long but the section between Gießen and Treysa is awesome!)
    4. Mannheim-Frankfurt
    5. Offenburg/Straßburg-Karlsruhe

    New locos could be:
    ICE 4 for 1,2,4,5
    Br111 for 1,3
    ICE 2 for 2,4,5
    ICE-T for 1,2,3,4

    Apart from that they all should be set in modern days (~2020) to implement every single German loco we have so far; apart from nr.3 which is a bit of a exception for ICE apart from the ICE-T


    Other guesses:
    Maybe they will start to link routes and connect MSB with KWG and update the timetable and so on for MSB so that you can also run the ICE’s from Aschaffenburg to Würzburg, freight trains from Aschaffenburg to Würzburg,…

    Or they will make the TS-classic move, update DRA to Leipzig and implement the ICE-T :D
    Either way: I hope it will be a relatively modern German route in the South-West (exception is the later one though) :)
     
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  29. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Whatever we get I just want a class 91 or a 800 in the game
     
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  30. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Both would be nice. But maybe fantasy is getting in the way of realism here.
     
  31. driverwoods#1787

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  32. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    I agree and for the 5th one, I suggested the international segment Appenweier Strasbourg Ville railway. That one needs a French 15kv 16.7 Hz DB/ÖBB PZB trains these are B85500 BB37000 and TGV Euroduplex which you can play on LGV Marseilles Frankfurt am Main Hbf. Keep in mind Frankfurt Am Main hbf is spelt in the French Language as Francfort sur le Main Gare Centrale. German language Strasbourg Ville as Straßburg Hbf.
     
  33. Yerolo

    Yerolo Well-Known Member

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    I think you will find Matt's comment which I was replying to was in jest. The entire Australian train sim community are well aware there are zero plans to bring a blue mountains route (historical or otherwise) to the TSW franchise at any point
     
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  34. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Ok then and let's wait and see for the summer UK US Germany routes
     
  35. Hiro Protagonist

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    The "modifications" to the Ten Tunnels deviation for the D-sets involved a change to the loading gauge regulations and some slight notching of the tunnel walls near the bottom. Hardly worth expending effort on replicating especially given the sometimes broad-strokes approach DTG has to replicating real-life features. The Zig Zag on its own is only 7km long (5 times shorter than TSW's other heritage railway, and half the length of the Island Line but with no intermediate stations) and has only just re-opened literally a month ago after being closed for more than 10 years. And again you're getting out your projection crystal ball, as the D-sets are still not yet in use almost 4 years after the first units entered the country, and not expected (at this stage) to be operational for at least another 6 months.

    I'm sure if DTG ever bring in a Cityrail/NSWTrains route running V-sets they'll make sure to include faulty HVAC and a trainspotter standing behind the driver. They better also include the flip-flop bench seats and the awful plum/olive green vinyl that sticks to your back on a hot summer day.
    Seriously, you mention this almost utterly useless anecdote almost as often as suggesting that DTG should do the Perth-Mandurah line because your aunt lives nearby.
     
  36. MAX1319

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    So I figured Gloosop line is out we can get back on speculating a bit. So here are the 3 routes I'm speculating might be releasing in late summer:

    1. Leipzig-Riesa-Dresden- This would be an extension of the current Dresden route which would get the TSW3 makeover. possible DLC with the German loco (Vectron) on the roadmap. updated timetable with lots of layers.
    2. MIdland main line London-Bedford- introduce 700/1, layers with the 700/0,HST,66, 395, and many others as part of rail tours as a layers
    3. NEC New York- Stamford- introduce M8 with many layers from LIRR,NYJ, M3A, M7A, and freight layers.

    These are all speculation in my part so please take with a grain of salt.
     
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  37. paulossj4

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    I don't know if anyone remember, but last year the last route released was the revamped Isle of Wight, and short.

    This year, Glossop was launched, which is also short, so if we go from there, after the launch of IOW, TSW3 was launched with long routes, so...
     
  38. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    No the IOW was a Rivet rework of their third party content, not a DTG route.

    The DTG big UK release was the extended SEHS.
     
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  39. pessitheghost

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    Apparently Glossop was modelled by rivet?
     
  40. OldVern

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    Have we got a source for that?

    In any event, until we are told otherwise I surely hope it's not the big UK summer release!
     
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    A route that comes with either an LNER Class 80X or Avanti Class 390 would sell like hotcakes
     
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  42. jack#9468

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    Any train would sell well, as along as it runs either along the WCML or ECML
     
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  43. pessitheghost

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    Train Sim Tv
     
  44. Crosstie

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    !

    Well, Steam lists DTG as both developer and publisher.
     
  45. malikrthr

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    If we get the New Haven Line, I hope the devs do not cut it short to Stamford. Similarly to the TSC version, I think we should get the route east to New Haven

     
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  46. Crosstie

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    Well, at about 85 miles it's a little long for TSW passenger routes. Unlikely but not impossible.
     
  47. eldomtom2

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    Steam usually does not list subcontractors.
     
  48. MAX1319

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    Yea we have to be realistic. I would love to get the entire route but given DTG's history with previous routes, LIRR DLC to Hicksville, Harlem to north White Plains, NEC NYT, NEC Boston, the Metro North, NY to Stamford DLC (33miles), with the Amtrak NEC section from Penn to New Rochele (19 miles). In total this would be a 52 mile route with the two biggest train stations in the US, Penn and Grand Central.If you include all trains/ layers from LIRR, Amtrak, Harlem, Hudson, New Haven. Freight, sunny side yard, Oak point yard, this would make this the busiest US DLC. Even bigger that NYT. It would capture the busiest corridor in the US if done correctly.
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  49. Random Railfan

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    Imagine if they did it all the way to NH and made the Danbury and/or Waterbury Branch. I wish, lol ;)
     
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    If we get either ECML/WCML, I would personally prefer them to be in historic eras with more interesting stock than an Azuma or Pendolino.

    ECML set in the era of the big four with the real LNER and the A4’s, including a scenario that enacts a part of Mallard’s record breaking run would be really cool! Or set in the BR Blue era with the long overdue Class 55 Deltics.

    As for WCML, a TSW upgrade of WCML Shap in the same era as it is in TS Classic would make me happy. Class 87 with a Large Logo Class 47, then the Class 370 APT-P following it up later as a DLC. The Class 87 would be a much more engaging gameplay experience than a Pendolino.

    They’ll probably be modern era segments first though, which I don’t mind but there’s so much more interesting things you could do with the mainlines than that :)
     
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