The New River Gorge-huntington To Hinton West Virginia (csx/c&o New River Subdivision)

Discussion in 'Route Suggestions & Proposals' started by Buynot, Aug 9, 2018.

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  1. 1940s-50s (steam era)

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  2. 1960s-70s (early diesel era)

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  3. 1980s-90s

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  4. Present day

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  5. I wouldn't want to see this route in Train Simulator.

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  1. NEC Railfan

    NEC Railfan Well-Known Member

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    Another consideration is whether this route would be in the steam or modern era. In terms of steam, all we really have is the freeware Kawanha and Allegheny steamers, while we have bucket-loads of CSX equipment.

    Plus there's the question of how much the New River Sub has changed over the years. Things like no-longer existent branchlines or industries.
     
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  2. steammaster4449

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    Well for a hybrid between the steam and modern eras, there's always the later 50's-early 60's to the early 90's. That line seemed to stay somewhat frozen in the steam era longer then other lines did. Or at least to me it did.
     
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    Well I never. I didn't share the video I'd originally had in mind when I made this post. How neglectful of me. Well anyways, here it is:

     
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    Oh man! Whatever era it made its appearance (if it comes to reality) would make an incredible piece of railroading available to everyone! Please please...
     
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    Well would ya look at that? The 1993 New River Train makes an appearance in this film at the 27:15 mark, ironic considering that was a Kanawha's number and the (2)765 was the power for the '93 run. Also, the overall steam action starts off with the 611 at the 21:55 mark.



    Edit: I also found a near half-hour video of 614's 1997 NJ Transit runs:
     
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    Ahh how this video divides me, I'd have loved to see these beasts charging down the tracks as part of everday life, yet I also have a soft spot for those that replaced them.

     
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    1) That's a feeling I can relate to on a near-spiritual level.
    2) That's some fantastic film.
    3) The 80's were cool.
     
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    Everything starts with humble beginnings... RailWorks64 2021-05-04 03-34-10.png
    Yard in Huntington. The plan is to slowly go southeast, first to Charleston, then Hinton.
    Route assets are extremely light:
    - Sherman Hill (Track/infrastructure)
    - NS Coal (Everything else)
    But here's another question that must be asked, should this be a Workshop or 3rd party release? 3rd party does mean I can use the RCAP signals for C&O, and VP grass/trees.
    I'll also be doing scenery in sync with trackwork, so that way in case if I get tired, I'll have a functional route to upload.
     
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    Pardon my ignorance, but what's RCAP?
    I'm also guessing that VP is Vulcan Productions or something along those lines, but I reserve the right to be wrong.
    Also, I'd be inclined to ask why not make two versions of the line, one for Workshop and one for 3rd Party release, but then the thought of the amount of work that'd be for one person comes to mind, so I'm inclined to say go with what you find to be the more immersive of the options.
     
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    Well Blacknred81 just explained it, but among those assets are some very good prototypical C&O color light signals resembling those of the real world route. VP is Vulcan Productions, and one of their third party assets is their grass and trees pack, which is among the best in scenery design, but also drops a lot of frames (in my experience).
     
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    Oh! That. I may or may not've forgotten about that one. Guess that's what happens when you're out of the loop of something for a short while.

    Ah. Certainly wouldn't wish a bunch of dropped frames on ya just to make a freeware route. But hey, ultimately it's your call.

    Thankee to ya both for the replies.
     
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    Wow.. this thread has over a million views. My proposal comes in at a very distant second, so I congratulate the author of this proposal on that, as well as the presentation and the support it is getting. Now.. I'll be honest, the two things I'm personally interested in this route would be the scenery and passenger ops. I'm normally not that into primarily single-tracked mountainous routes. But a route with a decent amount of pax stations, I can give a look into. But if the scenery is done well, and the included equipment is given proper care, upgrades, because we know a lot of it will be something we've gotten multiple times. I would put some coin on this. Some new stuff would be nice to have as well.
     
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    Well it would appear someone digitized some film of the ACE 3000 testing, and I thought I'd come bump, erm, uh, I mean, share the video here:


    Edit 1: Also got some footage from when the Safety Express was in Arlington.


    Edit 2: Gotta photo from 614's 1981 Huntington to Hinton Safety Express runs:
    614 In 1981 Fall Colors.jpg
     
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