The Sieg-railway

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  1. Snogers

    Snogers New Member

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    !Disclaimer!: I did post this into the Suggestion forum of TS2019, but i thought it would fit TSW better.




    Hello fellow Train fans!

    Maybe you heard of it, maybe not. Regardless of that, i will introduce to you today the Sieg Railway (Ger: Siegstrecke) and say why i think, that it should be implemented into TrainSimulator.
    First of all: What is the Sieg Railway?[​IMG]
    The Sieg Railway is a about 100 km (62,1 miles) long railway, that follows the "Sieg" river in Germany, Northrhine-Westphelia through the outer northern part of the Westerwald. 28 km of it go through Rhineland-Pfalz. It is an very curvy Route It originated out of the Deutz–Gießen railway ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutz%E2%80%93Gie%C3%9Fen_railway ).
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    It starts at Cologne Central Station and ends in Siegen Central Station. On its way it goes through cities like Troisdorf, Siegburg, Hennef (Sieg), Au (Sieg) and so on. Its max Speed is 160 km/h till Troisdorf and from there on 120 km/h (140 km/h at special parts of the route). Along with it goes the Köln–Rhein/Main highspeed track, that begins in cologne and ends following the Sieg railway in Siegburg. There are some more routs that follow the track, but im not gonna count them all up (I will ad an wiki link down below if you are interested in them).
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    The route has 40 Bridges and 11 Tunnels. Because of WW2 damages, 2 5km parts of the route only operate on 1 track. It has 36 Stations on its way, of which most are in the mountain area. The Route is also getting used by freight trains, but i couldn't find any information about them (Maybe you can).
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    Siegburg Trainstation: [​IMG]
    More of it here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnhof_Siegburg/Bonn

    Betzdorf and its Trainstation:
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    Lines on the Route
    There are 6 lines operating on the route, which are the following:
    Rhein-Sieg-Express (RE 9). Its 3 biggest stations: Aachen – Cologne – Siegen. Operated hourly with Bombardier Talent 2 EMUs in coupled sets, or with double-decker push-pull sets propelled by class 111 or class 120 and sometimes class 146.0 electric locomotives or occasionally class 143 electric locomotives or occasionally Silberling coaches hauled by class 111 locomotives.
    [​IMG]Bombardier Talent 2
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    [​IMG] Doppelstockwagen
    [​IMG] Class 146.0
    [​IMG]Class 111
    [​IMG] Class 120
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    Class 143

    Westerwald-Sieg-Bahn (RB 90) of the Hessische Landesbahn as Dreiländerbahn (Limburg – Westerburg – Altenkirchen – Au (Sieg) – Betzdorf – Siegen), runs every hour after the S 12, and every half hour in the peak hour on the Altenkirchen - Betzdorf section. The trains consist of diesel railcars of class 640 or 648 for speeds up to 120 km/h
    [​IMG] Class 640
    Rothaarbahn (RB 93) of the Hessische Landesbahn as Dreiländerbahn (Betzdorf – Siegen – Kreuztal – Bad Berleburg), runs every hour after the RE 9, forms together with RB 90 a half-hour service on the Betzdorf – Siegen section. The trains consist of diesel railcars of class 640 or 648 for speeds up to 120 km/h.

    S12 of the Rhine-Ruhr S-Bahn ((Horrem -) Köln-Ehrenfeld – Köln – Köln-Porz – Troisdorf – Hennef (Sieg) – Au (Sieg)), to Hennef at 20-minute intervals and hourly to Au. Forms together with S 19 a half-hour service on the Hennef – Herchen (– Au) section. Operated with coupled sets of DB Class 420 and DBAG Class 423 EMUs.
    [​IMG]Class 423
    [​IMG] Class 420
    S13 of the Rhine-Ruhr S-Bahn (Düren – Sindorf – Köln-Ehrenfeld – Köln – Köln-Bonn Flughafen – Troisdorf). Operated with coupled sets of DBAG Class 423 EMUs. (This line is known from the not so well rated Köln-Konlenz airport link extention)

    S 19 of the Rhine-Ruhr S-Bahn (Düren – Sindorf – Köln-Ehrenfeld - Köln – Köln-Bonn Flughafen – Troisdorf – Siegburg – Hennef (Sieg) – Herchen). Individual services from Monday to Friday at lunch and dinner as well as daily services at night to Au (Sieg). Operated with coupled sets of DBAG Class 423 EMUs.

    Final words:
    I think this route should be implemented, because it is an very beautiful and varied. It goes from Urban area (Cologne) to country area (Hennef) into the hilly area around Siegen. It follows the Sieg river through its valley with its beautiful landscape. Also parts of the Route are already existing (Airport link extension, Siegen-Hagen), and you can connect this Route with the Ruhr-Sieg South Railway (If it´s coming) because this Route ends in Siegen.

    Sources:
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegstrecke
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieg_Railway


    Edit:
    Here is an YouTube link, where you can see all Classes operating on the Route, Filmed in Siegburg:

     
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  2. Juan Manuel Luengo

    Juan Manuel Luengo Active Member

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    Thank you. Good report and nice suggestion. A lot and attractive rolling stock (some already included in others DLC) that can be an inconvenience for its development, although ... nothing is impossible!
     
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  3. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    It also would connect with the existing Schnellfahrstrecke Aachen-Koln; in fact it would be very cool to be able to run the R9 Rhein-Sieg Express over its whole route.
     
  4. praxidike.meng

    praxidike.meng Well-Known Member

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    Great, great suggestion! I hope the wizards at DTG will consider this route. Thumbs up!

    Edit: I notice this is a very old thread. My mistake, but nontheless, it deserves support.
     
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  5. geloxo

    geloxo Well-Known Member

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    I always liked the older Hagen-Siegen route. This one looks great too. Indeed the whole area there is so nice for german routes. I´m happy to see them in game.

    Cheers
     
  6. davidh0501

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    Looks a good candidate, but it’s probably too similar to the existing German routes.
    I expect the devs would prefer a more distinctive route with more varied and original vehicles.
     
  7. RobertSchulz

    RobertSchulz Well-Known Member

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    Wanted to suggest it on my own. But this suggestion is too good to make a new one.

    However, I found a few things to add. And edit: This should be moved over to Suggestions Forum I think. Thanks DTG Alex!


    1.) Future Possibilities

    Thinking about the new route hopping feature added with TSW5 this would allow players to hop from SFS Köln-Aachen and continue the services of the S12 from Horrem and S19 from Düren further down to Au (Sieg) and the Rhein-Sieg-Express RE9 even all the way from Aachen to Siegen.

    Imagining a route hop 2.0 feature, where we can hop within a service this would be an absolute enhancement to TSW as we could drive full services and in the case of the RE9, a 2,5 hour service! (or if route hopping 2.0 won't happen, we at least have a takeover in Cologne.

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    Siegen offers a wide variety of possibilites such of course the route hopping to a potential extension of Ruhr-Sieg Nord from Finnentrop further down to Siegen and with that the fulfillment of Ruhr-Sieg-Bahn RB91 (Hagen-Siegen) and the Dortmund-Siegerland-Express RE34 (Dortmund-Siegen), as well as the Rothaarbahn RB93 (Betzdorf-Sieg to Bad Berleburg) and the Sieg-Dill-Bahn RB95 (Siegen-Dillenburg), but also a possibility for the Main-Sieg-Express RE99 (Siegen-Gießen-Frankfurt).

    Stations: 35 (a lot)

    1.) Köln Hbf (RE9, S12, S19)
    2.) Köln Deutz/Messe (RE9, S12, S19)
    3.) Köln Trimbornstraße (S12, S19)
    4.a) Köln Airport-Businesspark (S12)
    4.b) Köln Frankfurter Strasse (S19)
    5a.) Steinstrasse (S12)
    5b.) Köln/Bonn Flughafen (S19)
    6.) Köln Porz (RE9, S12, S19)
    7.) Köln Porz-Wahn (S12, S19)
    8.) Spich (S12, S19)
    9.) Troisdorf (RE9, S12, S19)
    10.) Siegburg/Bonn (RE9, S12, S19)
    11.) Hennef (RE9, S12, S19)
    12.) Hennef im Siegbogen (S12, S19)
    13.) Blankenberg (S12, S19)
    14.) Merten (S12, S19)
    15.) Eitorf (RE9, S12, S19)
    16.) Herchen (RE9, S12, S19)
    17.) Dattenfeld (S12, S19)
    18.) Schladern (S12, S19)
    19.) Rosbach (S12, S19)
    20.) Au (RE9, RB90, S12, S19)
    21.) Etzbach (RB90)
    22.) Wissen (RE9, RB90)
    23.) Niederhövels (RB90)
    24.) Scheuerfeld (RB90)
    25.) Betzdorf (RE9, RB90)
    26.) Kirchen (RE9, RB90)
    27.) Freusburg-Siedlung (RB90)
    28) Brachbach (RE9, RB90)
    29.) Mudersbach (RB90)
    30.) Niederschelden (RE9, RB90)
    31.) Niederschelden Nord (RB90)
    32.) Eiserfeld (RB90)
    33.) Siegen (RE9, RB90)

    2.) Possible new train with the route

    A.) The BR 120 (in use until October 2018) as RE9. Also could layer to SFS Cologne-Aachen.
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    B.) The BR 648 (from Siegen to Au)

    as RB90 (by Hessische Landesbahn) since 2014
    (here short before Siegen)
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    or RB95 (DB Regio NRW) (dependent upon the timetable - only active up to 2014)
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    3.) Flughafen Köln/Bonn

    With the S19, the short branch to the airport Cologne would need/could be included. Its also used by a lot ICE services.
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    The 420 could be layered in maybe as well.
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    4.) Cab rides

    Troisdorf to Siegen



    Siegen to Cologne

    Siegen to Au

    Horrem/Colonge to Au
     
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  8. daanloman#3930

    daanloman#3930 Well-Known Member

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    I'd love to see Siegen. the ending at finnentropp for Ruhr-Sieg Nord feels weird. and from Siegen to Köln is a very interesting railway. I traveled it in the summer during the morning rush hour startup as my Nightjet was redirected over Siegen due tue the big maintenance on SFS Köln - Frankfurt.

    Köln - Frankfurt with the airport branch and Köln - Siegen could both be very interesting routes actually doable both in length and amount of services and their variety. especially with optional layers now for those who don't have the money for an amazing console or pc.
     

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