Thomas Is Coming Soon!

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  1. mortal1234

    mortal1234 Well-Known Member

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    People still moaning about the DLC. Don’t buy it if you aren’t interested. Problem solved. I’m not buying it because I don’t really care much about Thomas but it’s good for those who do want to see him in TSW. Hopefully next year we get Hogwarts Express. Now that i would buy in a heartbeat :).
     
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  2. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    You can effectively play it for the most part in TSC. There's Western Lines of Scotland with the BR Black 5. It's close (as close as you can be to a fictional engine, since it did exist in the movie) It's not exactly the same loco (and Hogwarts is fictiional but set "in that area" of Scotland) but it gets you pretty close.
     
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  3. MrSouthernDriver

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    A grand reveal in which, didn’t appeal to a good 80% of the playerbase, something that definitely wasn’t thought about throughout the reveal.


    I get Thomas will make a lot of money for DTG, because it’s a business.

    but branding this as a grand reveal was the dumbest idea they’ve ever thought of.

    By all means, announce the Thomas dlc, it’s a good thing for DTG from a business perspective.

    Maybe don’t reveal, and pride it as a “grand reveal”, when a good portion of your playerbase are not a fan of it? If you Play dumb games like that, you are gonna win stupid prizes. There’s a time and a place, and that wasn’t the time, nor the place.
     
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  4. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    You aren't happy it's not aimed at you.
    That's fine.
     
  5. MrSouthernDriver

    MrSouthernDriver Well-Known Member

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    I never said that, I said that it was a stupid thing to brand it as a grand reveal, knowing full well that the majority of the playerbase was not going to like it.
     
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  6. Doomotron

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    What on earth are you on about? When I bought RDR2 on sale I got the whole game. At the time I paid £30 for the ultimate edition, but if I hadn't and I was given the choice now between a TSW DLC for £20 (not just Thomas) or RDR2 for £18, you'd struggle to convince me to pick the former.
    You didn't understand my point.

    A German train can realistically only be run on a German route, yes. But the Thomas content can't really be used anywhere. Thomas has been modelled from the CGI series design, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mattel provided the models themselves. It has an exceedingly cartoonish look that's out of place anywhere in TSW that you put it. Had they gone with a Railway Series design, it might have worked a little better. With what we're getting, we have a DLC that has no purpose other than to exist. The morale for a real-world train releasing for TSW is to add to the experience and most loco packs do. The £12 Class 20 DLC (one of the few genuinely good trains in TSW) can be used on pretty much any UK route semi-realistically. I can get reskins for it to make it useful for the era of the route I'm driving it on. I can get a modern livery and use it for an RHTT service if I wanted. Or I could get BR green and have a go on one of the steam routes. The BR101 can be used within reason on most German routes in the game, so for someone interested in German trains that's an obvious reason to buy it. But what am I meant to do with Thomas? There's only so much novelty in putting Thomas onto unconventional routes, and that's barely a USP. He's not going to be an accurate E2 by any means. He really is just Thomas the Tank Engine. In TSW, he is not a very useful engine, as the show would put it.

    It's the same as the Count of Monster Disco and the other Train Simulator holiday routes, but at a much higher price. I like the Count of Monster Disco (a lot) but if I was asked to pay £20 I'd quite rightly choose not to.
    How many people actually are into Thomas the Tank Engine anymore? You say it's a global audience, but Thomas as a franchise is pretty much dead, as are most of the long-running kid's TV shows. The current show is aimed at toddlers rather than the slightly older target of the show when I was watching it in the early 2000s. No toddler will be playing TSW - not a chance. That means the majority of this market will be the adult Thomas fans, and that's a niche of a niche. I don't doubt the pack will sell, but this will not bring thousands of new people to TSW.
    Because the time they're spending to make this could have been spent on something that contributes more to moving TSW forward as a platform. TSW hasn't advanced in any meaningful way since TSW2; all progress has stopped and the potential the game once had is long gone. DTG don't know what to do with TSW anymore.
    Phorum Peninsula was a lovely little route, but I do agree it should have had a route. If the pack was £25 and had a portion of the Sodor network in the same art style as the trains, I'd actually say the pack is cool. It could work as a separate game, but they'd have to do it properly rather than just isolating the core.
     
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  7. bleajch

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    DTG never had to do that reveals thing, but they did, and who do you think is going to care about a reveals calendar the most? Let's not kid ourselves here, the main demographic who cared about the season of reveals are not the same demographic that will be most interested in TTTE. So yes, it was stupid to put TTTE as the grand reveal, making us all wait 20 days for something we are not even interested in. It was always going to be a disaster, and it was never a mystery that the types of players who will be mainly interested in The Season of Reveals and TTTE are NOT the same.
     
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  8. Calidore266

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    [citation needed]
     
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  9. Clumsy Pacer

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    Someone from the Thomas fandom has said it is Thomas' CGI model used in the show from the looks of it.
     
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  10. Mich

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    It's pretty obvious if you just look at images of Thomas model vs CGI series incarnations, especially the face.
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    Furthermore it's actually based on the later version of Thomas used during the Big World. Big Adventures seasons, as that's where all the rivet detailing was brought it.
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    Also needed for the claim, that TTTE will sell to millions of kids worldwide.
     
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  12. Double Yellow

    Double Yellow Well-Known Member

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    “Yes I’ve heard of you. You swank around with your steamroller wheels, pretending you’re as good as me!”

    “Actually, I’m better…goodbye!”
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  13. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    That's a pretty accurate claim based on its popularity.
     
  14. Calidore266

    Calidore266 Well-Known Member

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    How do you cite a future occurrence? You could cite that claim of millions though, because I certainly don't remember anyone making it, or any projected numbers at all. Obviously Mattel and DTG have reason to hope it'll be successful.
     
  15. FredElliott

    FredElliott Well-Known Member

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    percentage I made up with no factual basis whatsoever
    shouty people on this forum
    statistic I made up with no factual basis whatsoever
    shouty people on this forum
    FTFY
     
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  16. MrSouthernDriver

    MrSouthernDriver Well-Known Member

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    why do you feel the need to do this?

    Ok, sure, I may have overstepped in areas, but I’m still true to my word.


    And that “percentage” was an estimate. Not something to officially take to mind. Not every percentage made, is factually correct.



    I’ll say it again, making it a “grand reveal” was a stupid idea. Thomas is good from a business perspective, but not from those who have played the game for a long time.
     
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  17. Jetset-James

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    Yet it still looks clumsy with steam erupting out of the side of the funnel. I thought steam had been shelved for the foreseeable future?
     

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