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I'm aware how licensing works yes. But there are other loco options, and other liveries they definitely can get. It doesn't need to be the red EWS class 66 every single time.

 

What happend to DB Shenker? Can that 66 not be brought forward from GWE? They still seem to be in business

 

I know we only ever get one new loco per route nowadays, but given the choice between this being a discounted route due to it's short length, or a full price route due it coming with both a new passenger EMU and a new freight loco I would very much prefer the latter.

 

He didn’t say it was, just that he’d prefer it.

With what limited info we have, of course there will be speculation. Calm down.

 

Now that would make me reconsider my purchase, though would still need some thought.

So what do DTG want us to do with these teasers then?

 

I'm not speculating, it's a discussion. Of course I don't know 100%, I'm making it aware, like everyone else, that we want a non EWS class 66.

 

Nobody is saying it does, we are saying we HOPE it does. Sheesh.

 

It doesn't, however the route is apparently one know for regular freight trains and so it may well make sense to add a new freight loco.

 

And how do you KNOW that? You're speculating now, which I thought you said we shouldn't do?

 

Class 70 for a start.

 

That is what were being speculated on before we were told to stop speculating. I don't know the route well enough to say what freight locos and flows run over the route though perhaps a class 70 would be fitting, or a different variation of 66.

 

We know nothing of the route other than 710, and that it's Gospel Oak to Barking.

I know I set this thread up as "the discussion thread" for the Goblin, but that doesn't eliminate speculation from the topic, certainly not at this stage.

Don't try and police other members.

 

Nobody said that.

 

You're completely miss reading what I'm writing. I'm saying you have no idea what they can and can't license, what they already have licensed, or how much they are trying to get licenses. As a result of this, your post was speculation, which for some reason you're trying to police people doing that in this DISCUSSION thread.

 

Like I say, I do not know this route, but surely there are different variations of 66 running over it. I know there are much more than just EWS 66s on my routes in real life.

 

But not impossible.

 

To be honest, this sounds intriguing. A route located entirely within London, we haven’t had that since Bakerloo I believe? Had a quick look at the map, and it seems to weave through some interesting areas and stations. If the scenery and timetable are up to par, this might get really cool.

 

Pretty rich of you to accuse someone of making a discussion heated, when it was perfectly calm and friendly until you waded in and started multi-posting, and shouting "speculation" at everyone. Regardless, good look with things.

 

Irl timetable for the LOROL is every 15 minutes with end to end journey time of just short of 40 minutes.

short section will have C2C diverts from barking to Liverpool Street via Stratford (which we don’t have the class in sim sadly.). And freight movements at various times of the day.

pretty good run with some interesting track movements on raised sections at times.

 

You're trying to police others who did nothing wrong in an open thread. I'm calling you out for that, because you're in the wrong.

 

I'd just stick them on ignore, and report them for trying to derail (A RAIL PUN) the thread. It's not worth engaging with them.

 

this would have been great and I bet would have been an option had DTG owned the 150/2 which comes with the riveria route and easily been modified to a 150/1. But would have to have gone back to the pre route which terminated at barking instead of the new extension.

 

Nobody made "it sound like we were getting a new freight loco", they were speculating about the possibility of it.
And you weren't calling them out you were trying to shut down their speculation:

Moving on;

When you've had two people call you out, you might be the problem. You've also felt the need to reply to every other post, from any user, which suggests you may be a bit overexcited.
Calm down, step away from the computer.

Also: Fawx has done nothing wrong in this thread.

I'd consider stopping before I join them in reporting you.

 

I didn't actually play this route in TSC, so I'm quite intrigued by it. Is there potential to see distant lines with Ai traffic on it? Hustle and bustle of a city would be great to see.

 

Not like you will be used to no.

it passes over other lines but unless the timetable allows and you have the stock then you won’t see other “ai” on lines you pass

another example is barking will be empty “like Manchester Piccadilly on glosop” as we don’t have the C2C stock nor the S stock for the underground.

at Gospel Oak you arrive into the bay platform. The through platforms carry class 378s on the Richmond/willsden junction - Stratford lines. As we don’t have 378s you won’t see them either.

 

There’s quite abit of overlap across the route, most notably around Barking & again at Gospel Oak. Given the rolling stock we have though, would expect it only to be 66’s. ECML also goes over it at one section so potential to travel under some 801’s & 700’s.

 

Maybe they can add a separate timetable for possible future Class 150/172 train DLC's where they would terminate at Barking instead of carrying on to Riverside?

 

That would be cool to see. One of things I love on SEHS and Boston Sprinter is seeing other trains cross the track on bridges., makes the whole thing feel more alive.

 

172 would be good as could then come with a 170 which could be timetabled onto Edinburgh - Glasgow

 

There's also the potential for the Willesden Junction services and the depot link, which is next to the WCML.

 

Hopefully we see what they done with the TSC version and have it linked onto other LOROL routes which means ECS to Willesden runs

 

Does a new freight loco come? Only DTG know the answer.

 

Doesn't mean we can't speculate.

 

We can’t but we can only hope. I used to like the class 66 now it seems to haunt us in every route

 

Well there is a early morning service that does run from Willsden Junction To Woodgrange Park bypassing Gospel Oak. The class 710s are also stored at the depot near Willsden Junction

 

You come into Private Messages apologising for what you did earlier, and then return to posting stuff that implies that Speculation is Bad.

Give it a rest.

Uh huh. Unlike you, I'm not the one trying to shut down speculation.

 

It does, I agree. Even a new livery would be nice.

 

There would also be the class 378s running on the north london line. Also Barking is the Terminus of the London Underground Hammersmith And City Line. The District line also stops there which would continue to Upminster and there are C2C services at barking.

Unfortunately though, it will mostly be 66's given the lack of trains in game that would be at stations such as Gospel Oak and Barking.

I think it is cool that we are getting a route in London. We hardly get routes that run within London. Most of the uk routes we have run out of London and into the countryside

If the quality is good, then I may pick it up

 

All I said was I would prefer it to also come with a new freight loco, never claimed that it would!

 

One also stables in East Ham depot at Barking overnight as well.

 

this is the comment i replied to you on origionaly.


I know we only ever get one new loco per route nowadays, but given the choice between this being a discounted route due to it's short length, or a full price route due it coming with both a new passenger EMU and a new freight loco I would very much prefer the latter.


This part in bold i read it as you saying it was coming with a new freight as well which is when i said it was not as the way you have worded your comment makes it sound like we are getting one. "due it coming with both a new passenger EMU and a new freight loco I would very much prefer the latter. " adding the DUE it coming with a both new............ someone may read as as you saying it is coming with it. As saying something is due means it is arriving

 

Well yes, if you highlight half a comment in bold completely ignoring the context contained in the rest of the sentence I can see how you made your error.

 

If you read the comment properly you'd have seen this part:

This very clearly indicates the other member is speculating about two hypothetical choices:
- One with just the Aventra, at £25/£20
- The other with the Aventra + Freight Loco, at £30.

And they are saying they would prefer the latter choice.

There is nothing wrong about this.
If you can't/won't read a comment correctly, that isn't anyone else's fault.

 

Maybe just respect the fact that some people like to speculate

 

Thank you for seeing how you can see how i misread it.

 

I don't see how he was bullying you.

 

Is someone literally saying not to speculate in a thread with speculation in the title?

If so I give up with this forum. Though saying that throwing the word bullying round like that has done it anyway!!!

Not particularly interested in or excited about this route in complete honesty.

 

It is a really nice route. I enjoy the TSC version as is something different and although you are driving in London (granted not a central london section) it has that nice rural feeling to it. If you have TSC and not the TSC version it is worth a look.

 

If my maths is right though there is a station every mile on average. I couldn’t think of anything more boring personally and may as well play a bus simulator.

 

It's not bullying, it's calling you out for being a nuisance to other members, and attempting to shut down their discussions. I have been reasonable, only asking you to stop policing. You clearly didn't like that, and you clearly don't like being called out. It's childish behaviour.

Spoiler: Side Note:

The Eagle-Eyed among members may have noticed that I added "& Speculation" to the thread title. Speculation IS welcome here.

Nobody EXPECTS a freight train.
They are SPECULATING about one.

They weren't backing you up...

You yourself have already been reported (by two different people, no less) for causing problems. I simply attempted to call you out/stop you from policing this thread. If you don't like that, you know how to leave the thread. There's an 'Unwatch' button at the top.

You did make an error - nobody blamed you for that. It was the fact that you told people not to speculate - nobody was blaming you for misunderstanding that post. The fact you insisted upon your narrative made it 10× worse.

Take some responsibility.

And finally, I made no "targeted remarks" towards you. You were called out for policing other members who did nothing wrong. Grow up, and deal with it.

To whatever DTG Mod sees this, just lock it and I'll put up a second thread. This one's far gone. Thanks.