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Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Natster, Apr 29, 2021.

  1. DTG Natster

    DTG Natster Community Manager Staff Member

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    MicrosoftTeams-image (40).jpg Experience one of Europe’s busiest freight and commuter railways, from the cab of some of Germany’s most iconic electric locomotives, with Hauptstrecke Hamburg – Lübeck, coming soon to Train Sim World 2.

    Read the article here.
     
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  2. JasonARJ3125

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    Might want to edit this bit SmartSelect_20210429-161038_Chrome.jpg
     
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  3. DTG Natster

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    Indeed, someone is already on the case.
     
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  4. bobbobberdd

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    Ok "over the coming weeks" I expected it to be released next week or in two weeks. :(
     
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  5. helderbrincolas

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    "Experience one of Europe’s busiest freight and commuter railways"
    I really want to see that ahahahaha, like on LIRR "experience one of the busiest commuter railroads and Jamaica station", and end up being a timetable totally innacurate and very dead timetable compared to the advertising (which is clearly fake) and to the real life timetable...
     
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  6. MetrolinkF125#916

    MetrolinkF125#916 Well-Known Member

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    Let me guess, another HBK article=more incorrect dosto rants lol. I mean we still have a few weeks left until the release, but I still wouldn’t hold my breath tho...
     
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    Other than that the modeling of the route seems really well done, the BR 112 will be a new experience for me although this won’t be the same case for other players. Bargteheide (if that’s how you spell it, I’m not German lol) looks like a really interesting railfanning spot:D
     
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  8. saltychipz#3569

    saltychipz#3569 Well-Known Member

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    Bargteheide :)
    I agree , the route looks really good
     
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  9. lux#4689

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    I am more astonished by the train PIS, as those should show the train category and terminal station.

    And on Fb, there is a calendar emoji, showing 14th of May, but that is not a Thursday.
     
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  10. bobbobberdd

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    Drink game for the stream today. Drink every time someone mentions wrong Dostos in the chat. :D :D
     
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  11. MetrolinkF125#916

    MetrolinkF125#916 Well-Known Member

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    So DTG was right about the screenshots depicting content still in development...

    I would say this wheel looks a bit, off the rails:D
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  12. saltychipz#3569

    saltychipz#3569 Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe donate £1 to charity every time someone mentions the dostos :D
    That charity would get a lot of money
     
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  13. saltychipz#3569

    saltychipz#3569 Well-Known Member

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    ;) Definitely still is
     
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    You would then be bankrupt and would have to rely on charity yourself. :D
     
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    FD830322-3CF7-4C2E-961E-69488F7C0EAB.jpeg Hopefully those level crossings work :)
     
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  16. saltychipz#3569

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    True ;)
     
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    At least the 112 numbering seems fixed. Next the headlight and then... you know... the big thing... the one with two levels... :D
     
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    i´m in ahahaha
     
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    "Bargteheide station features something rather unique, a crossing with a working gate right in the middle of the platform. This rather unconventional design is there to ensure passengers have safe passage to the east-bound platform, as neither a bridge nor underpass have been constructed."

    In Britain this is indeed unusual, but in Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands (Venray, Oss, Sneek, Leerdam, Tilburg University for example) as well...it is quite usual ;)

    For the rest: bring it on!! It looks great! :love:
     
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    I guess the freight fraction will be happy, but passenger wise still a huge disappointment as it seems. Curious to see how it looks this evening
     
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    I still find it a pitty, that all the rolling stock is recycled, as far as we know.

    As far as I can see from the screenshots:
    BR 112 recycled from the BR 143
    Dostos recycled, changed only PIS
    BR 182 MRCE recycled from the BR 182 DB. Changed color and removed PIS
    and I am pretty sure, that the we already have the waggons too.

    If only there were not those errors we see, the big top headlight on the BR 112, the missing train categories in the PIS etc ...
    I don't like the wrong Dostos, but I could live with them.
    But the wrong headlight on the BR 112 is pretty bad for a recycled loco.
    The missing train categories are even more visible after there were so nice PIS on the German routes before.
     
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    Route design looks nice as-well as the cab of the DB 112
     
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    I’m really looking forward to seeing this route tonight with Matt & JD. Hopefully, it’s not weeks away.
     
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    first preview of routes is usually 2-3 weeks before release, no?
     
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    Hamburg_firstlook_3.jpg
    This is by far the most interesting shot, I can see the cab detail is much higher than the BR143, and it would seem on par with the latest releases, I hope the Taurus has a new cab as well, the old one is not the best, maybe it has a screen like the TRAXX? I'm not an expert on the MRCE Taurus.

    Hopefully the Taurus has received some improvements in terms of cab and sounds (I would hope the improvements will be like the RT Talent and the SKA Talent...), otherwise this route will not offer a lot of value for money. The SD40 in CRR has a different cab, so I am sure the BR182 received a similar treatment. Can't wait for tonight's stream
     
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    Honestly at this point the oversized middle headlight is bothering me way more than the dosto wagons. Compared to real life pictures it is very obious that the middle one is way to large in this game... like on first glance obvious.
    Then the service markings on the on train PIS are missing-You get the type, number and then terminal station (Like f.e. "RE7 Krefeld" and not only the terminal).
    So let's see if they can at least improve on that front. Apparently its release is far longer away than I expected/imagined considering we get the first stream today. Maybe they can get at least some of these "smaller" issues sorted out until then.
    The moment I saw the low entry dostos on the very first pictures I knew they will be included and that nothing is gonna change about that, especially within the timeframe, so I won't even ask for changes there.

    Other than that, I really like the look of the stations and am excited for the stream today, as it might also answer some questions.
     
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  27. matjamca

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    The 112 does have a bigger top headlight…
    C56BBAED-9B7E-45F0-B535-C443E737BF9A.jpeg
     
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    Me too, it's one of those little details that make the whole loco look "wrong" I so wish I could unsee it.
     
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    [​IMG]
    no chance the middle one is bigger irl.
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    I don't exactly know what it is but the ingame version just seems wrong. maybe the lower ones are too small?

    BTW the upper picture also shows the proper destination display.
     
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    I wonder if cane creek might leap frog ahead of hamberg lubbeck if it's still 3 or more weeks away.
     
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  31. saltychipz#3569

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    Definitely not . We already have 3 news articles on HBL , and we are getting gameplay tonight . Definitely HBL first
     
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    I expect we will get this dlc on the 13th of may
     
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    But it is quicker if dtg reuse locos than start from scratch , it means that you get the dlc earlier
     
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    The usual pace is about one route every 60 days (not counting 3rd parties). We had SEHS at the beginning of February and Clinchfield the first week of April; I reckon early June for HBL, and August might see the Rush Hour bundle (which I am thinking will include Cathcart Circle).
     
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    It seems to me that the lights are the right sizes (with the middle one being slightly larger than the bottom two) but the in game version has the two blocks on either side of the light too high up, in both real life shots they're level or below the center light, but in the game model they're level with the middle of the light
     
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    Headlights: difference between the first (DR) and second (joint DB/DR) production runs?
     
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    Now that you said that, I see it as well - it seems the alignment is wrong. But still either the lights are not the same size or the wrong alignment makes the front look off. Whatever it is, something is just not right...
     
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    The lower headlights are too far inside. I don't understand how something like this can happen. Surely one has looked at the pictures before?
     
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    I don't see that, they're level with the outside of the buffers IRL and in game
     
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    Just for a comparison:
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    [​IMG]
    Maybe a better comparison! To my opinion, it looks okay. I suspect DTG did have technical drawings of the 112 (as well as the 143) ;)
     
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    The headlight is definitely the wrong size. The original 112 lights are all the same size, it's a DDR loco, the more they could save, the better, so they used the same frames and covers for the lights. I do agree though there seem to be more problems with the front than just that.
     
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    Except that on the 143, the DR/LEW used a decidedly smaller frame and lens for the top light.
     
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    Which were shared with BR 155s, DR V60s, DR V100s. If you look at those locos, they all have combinations of two sizes. At that time they had two sizes of frames, they used everywhere (you can tell by those "round-ish" edges on the frames). 112 came with new frames(with sharper edges), but they only used one size.
     
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    There is a mix of cabs on the MRCE 182s (3 different cabs)
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    (Not the best example,since the windows are broken)
    I'm just showing the ones we don't have in TSW
     
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    Well if people where standing on the platforms instead of the tracks,this loco wouldn't have broken windows.Well what do you know dtg has had this right all the time and we thought people standing on the track was just a glitch.
     
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    The BR 112.1 is not a DDR locomotive. Sure it's a descendant of the 143 family which was built in former East Germany but the 112.1 was built after the reunification and after AEG had taken over the former state-owned LEW Hennigsdorf, which built the entire 143 family.
    Using the same size for all three headlights was a typical West German move, East German locomotives usually had bigger main lights and a small thrid light (as can be seen with the 143 and the 112.0/114)
     
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    Interesting, I personally would like a rework of the old cab without the screens, at least with some higher res textures, but I wouldn't be surprised if they put the screens, a bit like the BR406/403 in SKA/HMA, at the end it's ok, but I fear that the Class 375 has set a pretty bad precedent, so I'd be happy whatever they did, as long as it's better.
     
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    In America that is very common:)
     
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    Early June ? We are getting HBL gameplay tonight , so I would expect a mid-may release , probably the 13th of may
     
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