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Train Sim World 2 Or Train Simulator 2021?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by david31, Feb 27, 2021.

  1. david31

    david31 New Member

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    It was quite a while that I have played a train sim and I want to get back into this branch of gaming. However on steam I got quite overwhelmed by the variety of train sims and DLCs... But I have saw that it looks like that TSW2 and TS2021 are the more popular and newest sims here, but is there a difference between these two? (Note: I have played the original Trainz Games back then and the only preference that i have are steam locomotives and really big maps but it’s just a preference)
     
  2. andy.malcolm

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    I would say TSW was a more casual game as you are basically limited to the scenarios provided (which don't tend to be that interesting in my experience). There is an editor so you can make your own scenarios with enough time and patience, but you can't share them or download stuff made by other people. At present you can't run steam at all in TSW but they have talked about changing that. TSW is vastly better looking graphically, so it has that going for it!
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    In TS2021 you do get big maps and smaller ones and there is a verity of Steam locos and routes set in the steam era.
    And you can do a lot more in TS2021 than TSW

    Whilst you are thinking about it spend anything over 73 pence and get TS2021 plus 5 add-ons
    https://www.humblebundle.com/games/train-sim-expedition-bundle
    Ignoring the Add-ons what you get is the base game that gives you three routes
    1 UK, 1 German and 1 US route.
    The Fife Circle route also come with an A4 Pacific 60009 Union of South Africa and you get a B1 in the bundle.

    But you need a computer to run it - forget consoles.

    Have a look at this page first which tells you what you need and then get the bundle for less than a £1
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/24010/Train_Simulator_2021/

    Even if you don' like it for a quid it is worth a try.
    But you have only 3 days left

    Peter
     
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  4. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

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    TSW - Looks great. Limited trains, routes and scenarios, and you are limited to what DTG release. Very limited livery editor. Limited scenario editor. More of a "game" style gameplay.

    TS2021 - Doesn't look as nice, but can still look great with addons. More of a simulator than a game. Almost limitless range of 3rd party addons including most vehicles and a massive array of routes etc. Everything is fully editable depending upon knowledge and skill. Lots of free content. Lots of paid content from 3rd parties.

    If you prefer shiny things and a more casual experience then get TSW2. If you want a more "simulator" experience and actually have a chance of driving the trains you want, where you want, in what livery you want... then get TS2021.

    That pretty much sums it up.
     
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  5. Reef

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    Then TS2021 is your ONLY option. TSW/2 doesn't have either of your requirements.
     
  6. LastTrainToClarksville

    LastTrainToClarksville Well-Known Member

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    In my un-humble opinion, having both is the best, albeit more expensive, alternative. I've managed to amass 104.4 TSW2 hours, 1,941.1 TSW hours, and 9,976.3 TS hours, or a bit over 500 days of DTG-based railroad simming, mostly pleasurable, but, yes, at times thoroughly frustrating. And that's not counting all of the hours that my dear computer has spent deleting and reinstalling TS2021 during the past few months.
    I'm neither bragging nor claiming a record, "Just the facts, mam".
     
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    Reef Well-Known Member

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    Jeesh... You need to find yourself a hobby mate.. :D:D
     
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    In my opinion TS2021 is superior in every dept apart from the Graphics.


    Mike
     
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  9. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

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    And you don't get live streams from DTG showing you how to make a train with cute animals on it.... I'm serious... they did.. last night... it was cringe.
     
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    I would question even that. Sure for close-ups of shiny rolling stock it's a bit better and the summer sun looks good, but many of the weather effects look no better than TS2021 and often the clouds look worse. Medium to distant scenery is no better than TS2021 and the better lighting of near objects can show up simplification in their modelling. Near to track vegetation looks better, but I find the trees less convincing.

    I'll leave you to decide if the TSW screenshot below (accidently posted in a TS2021 thread) is better than TS2021.

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  11. Pookeyhead

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    It IS better looking.. no one can deny that. Not always, as the above shot shows, but generally, it just is. However, I challenge anyone to say that TS looks bad when set up correctly, and takes advantage of all addons available. In fact, it looks pretty damned good. Many, if not most TS users don't run with everything flat out, as being an old DX9 game, requires more grunt, whereas TSW being built on the Unreal 4 engine can run on anything... even consoles. As a result, more people run with high quality settings. Train Simulator with everything on max, with RW Enhancer, and Reshade addons, plus AP stock and track and weather addons looks fantastic. Out of the box though it's pretty average I'll admit.
     
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    If you are not interested in route building or editing TSW or TSW 2 should suit you. I ran TSW 2020 yesterday on my new rig, see below, and was getting 60fps I then put all settings to max and was getting 30fps this was on the Sand Patch CSX route.
     
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    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

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    I get 30fps in Train Simulator 2021 with everything maxed out on a 10 year old PC with a 5 year old GPU running at 2560x1600.
     
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    I do have both but for me TS1 is far more engaging as things stand.

    TSW does look very good, I think service mode is a boon and being able to walk around the virtual world, or what small amount DTG allows you. However you are hamstrung by what DTG release and what they decide is realistic. There is a scenario creation tool but it is very basic at the moment. Steam isn't available yet but is now on the roadmap so I imagine there might be something this year.

    TS1 whilst not as good graphically but can look stunning especially the best quality routes with good quality buildings and infrastructure. Much of the recent locomotives and rolling stock and many not so recent are very high quality. Plus you have a much more comprehensive scenario editor, if it does throw a wobbly at times. Plus you can build your own routes too. And of course due to its age there is so much more stock available and plenty of third party payware and freeware content. UKTS has a comprehensive download library including plenty of steam period routes..

    I don't know what area and period you prefer but if you prefer steam, Riviera in the 50's is a great starter. It comes with enough stock to work "out of the box" and it is decent quality with decent sounds, the route looks pretty good too with a few little glitches like platform 2 at Kingswear. Plus with the amount of DLC available from steam and from other sites you pretty much have every class of locomotive running on the Western region around the 1950's apart from a couple of classes of Pannier tanks. There are plenty of carriages available too and Steam Sounds Supreme has excellent sound packs. There are regular sales too.

    The Stainmore route on the Steam Sounds Supreme site has a comprehensive collection of rolling stock included too.
     
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    I wonder if the OP has read any of these varied replies?
     
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    I have been considering this post carefully. I have to say that as someone who wants flexibility, immersion, good scenery, good sound and good dynamics that I really regret buying TSW2020 and all its DLC and then TSW2 and some more DLC. I keep trying it and then going back to TS. TSW just does not cut it for me but I can see why TSW would attract other people who would put graphics and the ability to walk on the track and stations and who would also be satisfied by the constraints of the timetabled missions and scenarios. I want to drive a DB BR 155 pulling pasengers and where I want. I have got TS looking almost as good as TSW using a shader program and AP. My grandson prefers TSW and enjoys hopping out onto platforms and the beautifully made models. It is horses for courses. Unfortunatly you probably have to buy both in sales and suck them and see. In years to come maybe TSW will be as good as TS but I have my doubts. I truly hope I am wrong.
     
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    For me, the advantage of TS2021 is in the vast array of content, so if there's something I specifically want to play (usually GEML or the Manc-Liv route) I'll go fire up TS2021. However, as an overall package, I enjoy TSW2 much, much more.
     

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