Train Sim World 2 - Tilting Tharandter Rampe

As I saw in the stream yesterday the year is still displayed incorrectly. Also now with the Railpool 185. Was also before with the other 185 so, so one has copied the error with over. I reported this error over a year ago, but apparently no one was interested in correcting it.

 

Oooh I hope the don't screw the RailDriver implementation for the new train, have a week of vacation when this beauty releases and I guess I'll grind it hard like the last time when vacation and release fell together (Hamburg-Lübeck) :-D

 

In terms of traffic on the route, not a lot to see. Just going by the preview stream though.

 

The 612 looks fantastic and sounds great. The horn is also excellent! But all I really needed to hear was that Maik was involved in building the 612 and that Joe did the timetable. The route is already purchased!

Though the timetable isn’t DRA busy, it looks like there are plenty of areas where trains interact with each other and dispatch decisions will be made. I look forward to exploring this more once TDC downloads.

I do hope that we can sub in the 146 instead of driving the 143; the drive by AFB lever has always vexed me a little.

I can’t wait for my first tilt with this one!

 

While I‘m also not particular fond of the 143, the 146 never ran on this route (neither did the 112 just for the record)

 

Please remove the DB BR 112 as a freight substitution. It's quite uncommon, in that part of Germany especially.

 

I think i may actually get this route based off the preview stream and once reviews start to pour in. The train is nice and the route looks lovely. It's unfortunate that there aren't that many 612 services but hey not all routes are busy

The setup of the 185 though is absolutely ridiculous. Why use the same terrible sounds of the db 185 if it's supposed to be a new train. DTG yet again cutting corners. Not even a surprise

But since I don't usually do freight, I'll still be looking forward to the route

 

Hopefully those additional 10 services will be added. I guess matt didn't know that there were 22 services instead of 10.

 

It's at the very least too frequent. About 50% of all freight I see is hauled by a 112. If the chances of seeing it were more like 2-5% that would be much better.

 

It's fine if it's added after release if it can't be done before release. Better than not adding it at all

 

That link doesn't seem to work for me

 

Doesn't work for me either

 

Yes, it's a dead'un.

 

It's very unrealistic as well as BR 112 is only passenger

 

Or remove the 112 entirely from freight. I'm tired of seeing it on S-Bahn Dresden and Ruhr Sieg Express services.

 

You can only use the DB BR 612 on Tharandter Rampe (no extra layers on other routes). But you can use this DMU on other routes in Scenario Planer.

 

I'd reiterate my request for an IC-liveried 612. These were around in the early 2000s - on this route - and had no changes to the interior. This would add variety.

 

But did ICE Line 17 go via Chemnitz, or did it go through Leipzig?

 

The Dresden - Chemnitz - Hof - Nurnberg live was IR until that was scrapped, then became ICE until the ICE-TDs were moved away, then was IC with 612s, before being declassified as IRE - also with 612s. With the extension of electrification from Reichenbach to Hof, the IRE was cut back to Hof, with an RE to Dresden.

The IC 612s never ran any other route as far I know.

 

Using this as an oppertunity for shameless self-promotion, I actually made a suggestion for the southern leg between Bayreuth and Nürnberg of the IRE route back in 2002 when it was still operated as an ICE line with the ICE-TD. If the BR 612 interests you because it's a tilting DMU the ICE-TD and BR 610 that are included with that suggestion might also very well interest you. The route itself is very different however, because it'a fully unelectrified, and sees many diesel hauled freight aswell (mostly with BR 232s). The line is also in former West-Germany as opposed to Dresden - Chemnitz, which is in the east, which has a profound effect on how the infrastructure and stations look. The route also features many services that either join or split at different point along the route, like on BML, meaning there's lots of unique services to explore! Additionally the route saw the BR 612 being introduced right around 2002, meaning it could be a layer (mainly substituting for the BR 610 on RB and RE services) which would give this magnificent beast another route to stretch its legs on.

Please do check that suggestion out if you want to see more tilting trains, more DMUs, a simply fun route or just the fascinating ICET-D and BR 610, or all of the above!

Shameless promotion of my own suggestions that I think might interest people and are somewhat on-topic over.

 

Just saw Joe's post in the other thread. Good to know!

 

I believe this is the right link: PRESS HERE.

 

Which implies that the extant red IRE (Sachsen-Franken Express) 612s and the white IC 612s never ran at the same time.

 

I can confirm from my research into the Dresden - Nürnberg service throughout the years fory Nürnberg-Bayreuth suggestion that this is indeed true, they did not operate at the same time.

 

Riffing off your earlier proposal, Dresden-Chemnitz would be an excellent opportunity for a 218 DLC, since I doubt many freight runs to Nürnberg can be bothered with changing locos midway. And there is also the Ludmilla, of course.

 

True, but I didn't mind a bit of artistic license to make the route more interesting.

 

Issue with that is probably that the 218 didn't operate freight after the 'bahnreform'. Some were transferred to DB Cargo (and reclassified BR 225, though on further thought I think those must have been the BR 216 or 217 IIRC), and operated mainly in Bavaria. Perhaps seeing them would be possible as the area isn't far from Bavaria, but I feel like a new route would be a better fit for them.

 

If one assumes that these freight runs are to and from Nürnberg, well that is Bavaria. But on the whole, yes, Hamburg-Lübeck is a better fit for them.

 

Though it seems to have gone rather quiet on the Ludmilla front. Hopefully something on this week’s roadmap.

I have a feeling the 612 may be taking a few trips “Off The Rails”, too. Apart from RSN and MSB, it might get exported to SF Corridor or Boston for a test run or three.

 

I wouldn‘t expect anything in the next months - at least not before the Br 420 is out. Maik Goltz‘s original plan was G6 in August/September 2021, 420 in November 2021, and Ludmilla in February 2022. Make of that what you will.

 

Let's hope DTG has the vision to push the BR 232 forward the next couple of weeks. Especially the Loco would fit very well to the Dresden routes, RSN, etc..
Speaking from my perspective, a BR 420 would be second Loco Addon from TSG which I would skip in a row.

Off topic:
Why is the BR 232 so famous? Just watch the vibrations and listen to the mixture of changing the notches, reving up the engine, turbocharger and fan sounds.

(For full experience wear headphones)

 

Well if the 420 is up to Maik’s usual standard that might see an Off The Rails trip on Chemnitz, too!

 

Let‘s hope DTG have the vision to let TSG continue to work as is. The quality speaks for itself. Besides, the 232 is for RSN and not either for the Dresden routes as it stands. It probably won‘t sub in without a timetable update anyhow.

 

Poor Maik only just got the G6 finished!

 

Ludmilla... For me, this is pretty much (next to Dresden > Chemnitz) the most eagerly awaited add-on of all times. This locomotive, this sound, and then made by Maik... that's just TrainPo... (I'm not saying it, Sam's killing me.)

This could perhaps only be surpassed by a DR V200 ("Taigatrommel"). I just love insanely big, loud machines with lots of smoke coming out of them....

 

Does the Br612 have so less power or was the train, that was used on the stream bugged, because it felt like, that the DMU hat struggles to speed up

 

Well it’s a DMU so it’s going to be far from the acceleration of its electric counterparts, but also Matt wasn’t 100% focused on driving since he was dealing with a lot of requests and showing off features etc, also the gradient on the line is quite hilly.

Overall you shouldn’t have huge issues reaching the speed limit on the line, but it won’t match the performance, of say, the talent 2.

 

I actually think something that doesn’t accelerate like a rocket will make a refreshing change.

 

You guys will be surprised how different this ting is to drive compared to other stuff in the game. Some will call it a bug, for sure, but that's how this thing works.

 

This is exactly the same as in reality. It makes a lot of noise and has poor acceleration.

And sometimes Matt forgot to accelerate because he also had to answer questions and explain things at the same time.

 

Excellent news. Out of interest, how many 612 trips in Journey Mode?

 

This is great, thanks

 

Does the Br612 have any High beam "Fernlicht"? Because Matt couldn't find it in the stream

 

It certainly has irl, I would assume that it is modelled in the TSW model as well. Question is how effective it will be.

 

Amazing! Thank you so much to everyone who worked on this over the past few days

 

The Railpool 185 and 187 run in Sweden, so if you ever…

 

and the Vectrons i think
and the 185 runs with Different Railpool stripe Blue,Red,Yellow and with or without The Railpool text

 

This release seems to be completely overshadowed by the controversial roadmap changes… everybody get excited, it’s arriving tomorrow!

To increase your hype levels, here are some videos:

• Tharandter Rampe full RE3 service onboard a BR 143. Station timestamps in the comments.
• History of Dresden Hbf. Narrated in German, but some great footage even if you don’t know the language. Includes clips of an ICE-TD near Tharandt, the catastrophic flooding of the main station and the restoration works afterwards.

Bonus: Tharandter Rampe meme