Road Map Train Sim World 5 Roadmap: March 2025

They haven't been for quite a while. Their last route was almost a year ago.

 

I'm surprised my suggestion about Frankfurt S-Bahn will become a reality. Thank you and I'm looking forward to it ☺️

 

Far more likely, given they've repeatedly said it's a remaster not an extension, is that DTG Liam has had other, paid, work that's bumped this down the line. Like the work put in to rescue WCMLS.

 

They didn’t say they were done with Metrolink, they just said that they’re going to focus their attention on a different area of the country for now. I believe that Matt outright said that he’d love to see the entire network in the game at some point.

 

Nothing new from the pack was shown off since the last article. And the F7 is way out of era to run in this pack, the only additional thing added is Union Pacific services using the (I assume) SD40-2 from Sherman Hill, as its the only locomotive and paint appropriate model that is readily available to HIS without putting more content into the pack.

 

Your logic is irrefutable. How apropos that DTG should be able to use its own shortcomings regarding WCML to explain away not releasing GWE. Another possible method would be to not advertise these so-called "passion projects" until they're ready for release. So, you know, all that "paid" work doesn't keep getting in the way! Well I guess we're just going to have to wait longer for the Great Western Passion Project.

 

You are correct. From my point of view, since DTG only makes about two NA routes every year anyway, and they are not "focussing" on Metrolink, then I don't see how Metrolink is relevant in any conversation about what DTG will produce for the span of TSW5 and TSW6. I'm sure Matt would love to see somebody else make the entire network. Besides, there are lots of things that Matt would love to see that I am still waiting to see. With DTG I find that you sometimes have to read between the lines. They are not making any more Metrolink content themselves.

 

So dtg don't announce anything, players complain they aren't communicating and when they announce, players complain they announced something. Dtg can't please everyone unfortunately. You have to be patient and wait

 

Says who. When did dtg say they will make no more metrolink content

 

NICE ROADMAP! I don't think anyone said anything about the DB 193 getting ATB, but it is a nice update. And the Frankfurt S-Bahn with the BR 430 and TSG's BR 420 is very exciting!

 

No doubt we have to wait. I'm not sure that we "have" to be patient. I think what people really want is for DTG to announce stuff and then release it in a timely manner. Or, announce something with a release window that is far away, but stick to it. You know, meaningful communication. Something that can be relied on. DTG are historically poor at this. I don't expect them to get better but I will keep pointing out when I think it has become extreme. The SKA timetable has become an extreme wait and GWE is in danger of becoming so. I don't find it acceptable and I will let them know about it. If that is perceived as a lack of "patience," then so be it.

 

I think that’s fair to read between the lines. Dovetail is a company after all, and companies want to make things sound as good as possible without directly stating something when you just don’t know what the future will bring. Regardless, I think it would be a shame to not see further Metrolink content (although I’m a bit biased, having lived near a Metrolink route for many years.) I personally thought that the San Bernardino Line was one of the highest quality American routes we’ve had in Train Sim World. I only hope that going forward no matter where in the US, we can get the same level of quality. Doubly so because as you pointed out, we don’t get many American routes from DTG these days.

 

It would be great if we can get more US routes instead of 2 per year. It sometimes feels like we get multiple UK and german routes but barely any US stuff.

 

I suspect the TSG project could be the DB 232 loco that was mentioned a few year back?

 

Then it would say 232 but it doesn't

 

Remember the 3rd parties are mainly based in Europe so it'll naturally have more content

 

Question about the Zwolle - Groningen railway. Are there pictures of the SNG train too? I've only seen pictures of the ICMm.

 

They communicated many times ska is a massive timetable and that is 1 single person working on it in his own free time and that it still needs to go through testing. Same with the gwr remaster. They are always communicating

 

Great roadmap! Can`t wait especially for the S-Bahn Frankfurt Route!

 

The gwe remaster is on its way. Liam, who’s doing the remaster as a passion project, has postponed work on it until WCML is sorted

 

Great to hear that there will be soon Wiesbaden coming to a Train Sim. And that there will be two routes: south and north of the Main.
But one or two simple questions:
- you bring up into the naming the S1, S8, S9. But the map shows only them going from Frankfurt Main Station. WHY? That the S1 will not be complete to Rödermark I can understand, that would meant to add quite a lot more an additional scenery.
But with the Frankfurt - Fulda route we already have the section to Hanau. Was it not possible to use that part at creating this route and build the missing part of the tunnel section too? In that way we would have had a much more complete S8 and S9.
- Even if there are several variants to drive between Frankfurt and Wiesbaden, if feels like a incomplete thing, ending at half of a line

 

Just wait till we get SFS Frankfurt-Cologne

 

2 things you have to remember about the ‘remasters’

1) They need to be QA tested before release

2) They are more like ‘patches’ than ‘DLC’.

Both need to have timeslots found in amongst other content.

Within March, we are having 3 new DLCs arriving (Mildmay, Cardiff & Netherlands), and in the near future at least another 4 (Thomas, S-Bahn, ECML Railtour Pack, Cargo Line Intermodal). In addition we seem to be getting patches every 2 weeks or so.

Getting the QA done on the remasters is the more important part timewise, as with all these DLCs coming out, we generally get a base game update before release, so the remasters could be added into one of them, so once QA is completed, a release date could be given with only a few days notice.

 

Great To see the North London Line coming tomorrow but I have some questions:
What about the:
Manchester Airport commuter Line
Great western express remaster
And the March Sales????

 

The biggest surprise for me are the announcement of Frankfurt S-Bahn with the BR 430, and the finally the returning of TSG's 420 ( they announced it back in TSW2). Hope that TSG can develop a high-quality product just like their previous products.

However, still no more information about the SKA timetable update, GWE Remaster or Manchester airport commuter, now I afraid if some of these products would actually release after the release of TSW6 in September.

 

Ok this needs to be said. LIRR and MNRR are completely different divisions. The VR dlc just showed that the MTA is willing to work with DTG again

 

Not really. Mta does not work with dtg. They only provide branding. They don't provide any access to reference material such as sounds and physics. Those are provided by the community

 

I really hope the MTA Metro North would allow DTG to capture reference material, even having a non revenue service run from end to end of the line would be great, similar to how MBTA provided the opportunity to DTG

 

This is an interesting take. It's a good question whether or not different divisions of the same state agency could really have legal positions that would differ so greatly. The evidence we have is that LIRR supposedly forced safety systems because "it was noticed" that trains could hit each other in HAR, to paraphrase Matt. To me the VR DLC is irrelevant because it's just a rehash of a route DTG already has. And we know that safety systems was just a compromise to get LIRR released at all, and late at that. It would be great to see the New Haven Line someday but there is nothing to suggest any future "new" MTA routes, and indeed, much to suggest no more MTA routes at all.

 

What planet are you living on. So much british content releasing, and good content too. It's the US players that don't. I really feel sorry for them

 

What’s this “new” country when referring to the Cardiff network? Last time I checked Cardiff was in the UK (the country of which Wales is a part) and there are plenty of routes in the UK already.

Seriously, I’m looking forward to this one. It looks a bit of a different experience to existing commuter routes.

 

I don't get that one either. Wales is part of the UK, lol. I was trying to figure it out if it refers to something else upcoming, but why would they tease entirely other add-ons in a paragraph talking about this one?

 

I really doubt it's a tease for anything else - Wales is a country, as is the UK. Strange, but true all the same! I guess it's helpful to be specific, otherwise people new to the franchise might assume there's already other Welsh content.

 

i don't know much about the states. What good routes are over there? Middle of country is quite quiet isnt it?

 

The springtime sprint section mentions the Train Sim Classic add-on releases, but I don't see any written in the article, and the sales opportunity has no date mentioned as well.

 

Is the live stream still at 19:00 tomorrow ?

 

The sales will probably be during the Steam Spring sale which is from the 13th to the 20th March. I'm not sure if other platforms have sales around this time as well.

 

Now this isn't a complaint it is just an opinion that my mind seems to think.

But the Mk2f do look nice, but when it comes to my memory I don't ever remember seeing these in the 80s on the WCML up to Scotland from Preston. Maybe there may of been some in the late 80s early 90s, but they would of been with the swallow livery.

Of course if I am wrong then that's great, as it will put my mind at rest.

 

The Mark 2 aircons tended to turn up on the secondary Inter City services, the Birmingham or South Coast/South West to Edinburgh/Glasgow services. Most of the Euston to Wolverhampton/Manchester/Liverpool services were Mark 2 aircons. The Euston to Inverness “Clansman” was Mark 2 stock and overnight trains at the time tended to use Mark 2’s alongside the Mark 3 sleeping cars, the latter of course which we don’t yet have.

 

The Diesel Railtours Pack. Bit disappointing. Same locos as NTP. Be nice to see something new.

 

Question about Zwolle - Groningen. Theres the 3car sprinter and 3car intercity train. Why is the 4car intercity train not included?

 

It could be because it requires two new cars to build. The middle car of the 3-car ICMm is different from the middle cars of the 4-car ICMm. Not only with interior, but an extra motorised axel too.

 

I guess you don't, Chief. Chicago is in the middle of the US and is often called " the railroad capital of the World " It's certainly the railroad hub of the United States and much of the freight and long distance passenger rail originates in Chicago and the Mid West. It's certainly not quiet over here, though DTG has chosen to ignore it.

 

I feel like the lack of licensing with Metra is probably what hurt Chicago not getting a chance in TSW.

If DTG waived the issues of lack of branding/licensing, then they could do it, as we have enough existing stock from other routes to fit in for Metra. (Gallery Cars, F40's and MP36's)

Though we will miss out on some of Metra unique locos like the F40PHM's or SD70MACH's.

Some of the team that helped make Chicago Racetrack for TSC are on HIS's TSW dev list (Rick Grout, Jonathan Lewis, Gary Dolzall) But Gary has never developed a modern route under his High Iron Simulations name, so I doubt they'll tackle it either.....

 

Check out the Metra network in Chicago. Lots of routes and very busy. Plus the freight traffic is some of the busiest in the country, with every major railroad running to Chicago.

 

It's called a pack for a reason. More for gameplay really.

 

I think OP was meaning that the pack only has locos which are already available rather than a new class that was not in game before.

 

Speaking of the S-Bahn Rhein Main S1 S8 S9 what have been better off ending at Offenbach Ost that way it's route hopping to Bahnstrecke Frankfurt am Main Göttingen Kinzigtalbahn. Bischofsheim it's actually a DB Rangierbahnhof for the Frankfurt am Main area that means it needs to have its own timetable for owners of 363 365 204. That means needs to have a working hump yard.

 

But like I said same locos as NTP!

 

What year is the Welsh route set in ?