Road Map Train Sim World Roadmap - April 2023

I am hoping for it to be something fast and in the East, however I would much prefer the GEML with loco hauled sets rather than the flirts and aventras.

 

I think no it's not the GEML

 

it’s the ecml

 

Its the WCML

 

There's only one thing I want to know about MML (well, one and a half things) and it's if the HST power cars have different numbers!!! (also, is 43043 "Leicestershire County Cricket Club" in the game?)

 

I had a thought earlier that St. Pancras to Leicester might be a possibility, Okay so it's only partially electrified but it could come with the HST, 700, 387. The terminus and approach to St. Pancras are already there, there's enough existing stock to make it realistic and could open up the possibility of a Thameslink gap DLC linking the two routes and providing a "full run" of the original service.

Then add a Class 319 with a timetable layer for people who own BML/Bed-Leicester and then a Class 222 Meridian for the Midland Main Line packs.

That's DTG's strategy for 2023 UK releases all sorted. Possibly.

 

What ever route they are building it will have the 700. Don’t see it longer than 50 miles though

 

There are now 4 UK routes in a row, who made them is not so relevant for me. There is then a lack of variety, regardless of who has made the route.
For me personally, that's not the big problem. After the BR 187 Skyhook is no longer interesting for me as a provider and since no efforts are recognizable to finally bring the matter in order, nothing more is bought from them.
We will see the rest. For the next few months, I don't see anything interesting for me at the moment, especially since the BR 420 is apparently also being pushed further and further back. Since the bug fixes for the published track are also progressing very slowly, my fun with the game is being taken away.

 

it can’t be a route with a hst if the only traction is AC

 

319 could then layer into a modern, electrified (yuck) Manchester or Preston to Blackpool North.

 

It's Easter break for the devs and they don't give back until the 11th which is why niddertalbahn fixes will come after.

 

I'm not sure the code means that no diesel traction will be included in the layers, more that the traction that comes with the pack is electric.

I could be wrong of course, I'll grant that it would be weird to describe it as an "Electric" route if some 30 miles is wire-less. Doesn't rule out MML up to Bedford I guess, which is why I'm surprised so many seem certain that it is the ECML because of the 700.

 

people seem certain it’s ecml as it is actually an all ac route in modern day. we’ve just had a part of the mml added and it literally uses diesel traction throughout so it can’t be possible. as for layers, i don’t understand how such a crucial part of a route can be just a layer. doesn’t make much sense

 

But there has just been a big chunk of american and german content, non of which I am interested in, however, I still enjoy the game even though the last British route was about 3 and a half months ago and it was a modern scottish route so not of my interest anyway as I prefer older English routes (also it was 3rd party too). Again with the 3rd parties DTG cannot demand them to make a route in a specific country i would imagine.
As I have always said in life it's just the way the cookie crumbles so there's not point making a fuss about it.

Anyway you can pretty much guarantee that the next roadmap will have more german and american routes (don't know which you prefer) in it.

 

My feeling is that it could be the WCML. Something like B’ham - Crewe maybe? Or Rugby - Stafford? Coming with a 390 and a 350. It would also add some highly requested AI traffic to New Street on BCC

 

DTG route will probably be: Preston-Blackpool.
If they include both lines, it should be about as long as the Birmingham Cross City route.
Era+AC OHLE is also correct.

 

We definitely want more routes from other parts of the world. Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, France would make a good start.

 

Preston to Blackpool runs approximately 29 miles that includes both branches Blackpool North and Blackpool South nowhere near the 40 miles

 

Well it's definitely a ML, I'm just not sure which one!
I'd love the GEML to be done around 2020-21 period. Greater Anglia had big variety on that route around that time which would allow for many layers over time, also the London Overground and TFL of course. GA 720's were just getting established, but there were plenty of 321's and 379's running still. Also TFL 345's and LO 710's. Would make a fabulous set over time.

 

I suspect it will layer the 700/0 and possibly come with the 700/1. Don’t see DTG making one of the most requested EMU for just one route

 

Correct however Germany to Austria routes are through running thanks to Punktförmige Zugbeeinflussung due to ÖBB using it since the 1960s

 

exactly my reason as to why i think it’s ecml south, as well as already having the 387

 

My guess is ECML from Kings Cross to Peterborough or something like that; it would then allow that the 700 has now emerged. I’d have preferred the WCML but ECML would be nice. Have a 91, 717, 800 then layer in 700, freight and RHTT plus a railtour. Could be a nice addition.

 

Whatever the AC route is, as long as it hasn't got an 80x in, because they look about as interesting as wet paint.

 

you say that but its literally one of the most popular trains in the uk and is pretty highly requested and would sell extremely well. if for example we do get an ecml south, i imagine it’ll come with the recycled 387, layered 700/0 + new 700/, an 800/801 & hopefully a 717, then possibly an IC225 as a loco dlc

 

Why am i guessing that the new UK route is Preston to Blackpool? Maybe because of the little leak that happened before...

 

But that never did specify who was making it, it also had the undecifered CB and AA(B/E - i can't remember). So could be any one of them?

 

Hmm...

 

2020 would be perfect as GA's fleet had 90/317/321/322/360/379/720/745. For a brief time at the end of 2020 all of those bar the 90 worked together. Anyway, everyone has decided that it's definitely linked to the 700/0 without any evidence except it's going to be made at some point and it's an AC line. I do feel like East Anglia is going to have a long wait.

Where did the rumour about Preston to Blackpool come from? It's been hanging around like a disappointing smell for weeks now.

 

i doubt dtg would do such a short route but who knows, i feel like i’d be disappointed if it was

 

well the evidence for the 700 being involved in the new route is what we’ve seen similarly with the acela and nyt route coming at the same time which would make sense with this to if it was say an ecml south as it’s a highly requested route and a highly anticipated train to go with it

 

Epic games leak that proved to be correct as things released. Some things were just the releases we got so far (loco bundle 2, lr, steam railtour) and some still to be released like the 700 and peak forest and some that are unannounced

 

315 too or rather, opposed to the 317, that ran west Anglia to Stansted more than it did out East

 

After NYT route nothing would surprise me. Like some had mentioned, the leaks have proving to be correct so far so not many choices left from the list........

 

Yes, forgot the ex-Anglia fleet didn't I.
The 317s have had diagrams on the east side since the days when "Anglia" used to borrow WAGN units for weekend services to Harwich and occasionally Norwich. They were still to be seen as far north as Colchester at the end of 2020 and kept one peak diagram as far as Witham until early 2022, so while minor players on the GEML they would still be a worthwhile addition.

 

I'm assuming you're thinking 47s, 86s or 90s up to Norwich or 31s and 47s up to Cambridge. There would have been EMUs too though, GEML and WAGN have both been served by multiple units since the days of steam, I assume you'd have no problem with older slam-door stock.

 

No, sorry I didn't explain myself well there really. Essentially I am up for anything pre FLIRT but I suppose even they would be better than another 3rd rail Electrostar fest.

 

I agree the ECML is begging to be done properly. The stock one from TSC is very dated and basically full of nothing except blue 360's. It would be amazing if DTG did the line as you say set in 2020. I enjoyed some great rail fanning at Bethnal Green and Stratford that year with much variety as you say. Also at Bethnal Green you got the Overground mixed in too. As for Preston - Chinese whispers I think!

 

It was in the list of epic games leaks, along with the 700

 

Of course this is wildly unlikely but for me the best choice for ECML is York - Newcastle (or maybe even Leeds, given it's already in game). The curving platforms of York, the NRM, Durham viaduct with views of the castle and cathedral, and one of the best experiences in rail travel crossing the Tyne into Newcastle

ETA: Darlington is also already in game

 

Shocker lol

 

Well there's a surprise.....NOT . Not impressed DTG .

 

--- And Italy, per favore!

 

I believe we can look forward to some routes from Japan now as the company that does the very good ones for TSC are joining TSW too.

 

Maybe one day this will be real! I hope for this

 

"If you wish to have livery designer for the HST you can pay us £30"

 

STILL no word on TSW2 Pres collection? -_-

 

It's a different HST. When the GWE HTS comes out none of the liveries made for the MML HST are likely to work on it... (so will need to be remade)

 

Remember the original presentation of BML and how they designed the timetable so that 700 could be included once available. Now the licence is there but it does not happen. It would give the loco at once twice the appeal plus the additional route that likely contains it. We could have East Croydon to Brighton (with varying stopping patterns), then Dartford to Rainham (SEHS) and maybe St. Pancras Intl' (TL) until Peterborough (if we get ECML on this section). One loco with one livery (no changes to loco needed) that can add so much value. Sad that they don't add it for BML as well.

At the very least, please include a 12car formation in scenario planner so we can put one on BML ourselves.

 

Hahaha. Yes, totally agree I might cry if it's another 3rd rail Electrostar fest. Though filling the Rochester to Victoria gap will happen at some point, it's time for a bit more diversity, especially with rolling stock. SWML Waterloo to Southampton would be better but it's really time for the original Eastern Region to join the game.