Tsw 4 *spoiler Alert You Have Been Warned*.

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by MAX1319, Jul 25, 2023.

  1. james64

    james64 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2020
    Messages:
    1,380
    Likes Received:
    3,248
    I wouldn't read too much into that. If they said "Train Sim World 4" it would spoil the surprise. If they said "Train Sim World 3", it would also spoil the surprise just in a different way.
     
    • Like Like x 6
  2. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2021
    Messages:
    2,680
    Likes Received:
    3,441
    So the info gathered is still the same? Everything pointing to 4 routes being released, no routes identified (except the country) and we will need to redownload all the DLC we have pointing at a new version of the game which may or may not called TSW4. We have announce, pre oder dates and release dates.

    That's the info we have right now or were new "spoilers" discovered?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. 1dart Mart

    1dart Mart Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2023
    Messages:
    698
    Likes Received:
    749
    My brain is no longer capable of keeping up with the “rumours “ :(
    Right now, I’d happily settle for a new name, just TSW and the issues in the core gameplay fixed. :)
    There, I’ve said it out loud…..please don’t hate me:)
     
    • Like Like x 4
  4. Dustysideboard

    Dustysideboard Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2022
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    101
    12 long days for an announcement that probably isn’t what everyone thinks it is, then fume as it wasn’t what everyone thought it was
    Sleep
    Repeat
    love this forum for entertainment
     
    • Like Like x 13
  5. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2021
    Messages:
    2,680
    Likes Received:
    3,441
    We know what is coming only not in what form. We know there is an update to the game that is so important that they had to move up the roadmap, announce it in a special stream and require us to download DLC again. The update is so important to DTG that there is a gag order for DTG employees. Everything pointing to something big coming.

    Sure in DTG world something big is not as big as we all want it to be and I will be disappointed as nothing that I would want in the game will be present but something is coming :cool:
     
    • Like Like x 5
  6. Calidore266

    Calidore266 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2021
    Messages:
    1,494
    Likes Received:
    2,201
     
    • Like Like x 2
  7. nepclassof84

    nepclassof84 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2022
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    690
    Im inclined to wait until dtg announces something then I’ll form an opinion based on that. All this speculation is a fun read but there is not enough information to make any conclusion
     
    • Like Like x 2
  8. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2017
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    2,535
    So there's a clue that the headline act will be an extension of an existing route.
    I wonder what the inspiration for the new software's code name of "Smithfield" was?
    Oh, FYI, Snow Hill Tunnel runs under Smithfield Market in London. Thameslink services run through it on their way from Cambridge to Brighton.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2022
    Messages:
    5,659
    Likes Received:
    10,268
    Is there?
     
  10. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2017
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    2,535
    Mentioned about 8 pages ago. It was from the detective work of the "Train Sim Guy" on You Tube, though he thinks the route extension is the LIRR. The Smithfield bit was my idea. My wife works in Hatton Garden so we often have meals out around the Smithfield Market area and I'm old enough to have been there the day it reopened in 1988.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  11. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2021
    Messages:
    2,680
    Likes Received:
    3,441
    On one hand I hope it's LIRR but on the other hand I fear it's gonna be LIRR. LIRR means finally a US passenger base route but I already have LIRR and it's one of my least favourite routes. If it's done well it will be as a new route to me as I never touched the route again after my first play. DTG makes NY feel like a ghost town
     
    • Like Like x 4
  12. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2017
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    2,535
    Yeah, not usually a fan of US stuff but I love metro/suburban systems so was really excited about LIRR, unfortunately it is like a ghost town.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  13. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2022
    Messages:
    5,659
    Likes Received:
    10,268
    Fair enough, I had made the link with Smithfield when I first saw it too, but obviously missed the extension bit.
     
  14. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2020
    Messages:
    12,816
    Likes Received:
    19,585
    By that token It also could be the Norfolk Southern Norfolk to Petersburg line, which runs through Smithfield, Virginia. Which I doubt.
     
  15. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2021
    Messages:
    2,680
    Likes Received:
    3,441
    I remember thinking the route would have looked better with swarms of zombies to explain the scenery DTG had set for NY.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  16. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2017
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    2,535
    Maybe it was set in the future, Summer 2020.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. StrikeEagle78

    StrikeEagle78 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2019
    Messages:
    1,132
    Likes Received:
    3,488
    I could see this happening. Align everything under a single "Train Sim World" name so that they can finally give up the so called promised TSW2 fixes and just focus on a single common platform. If it runs well, then that's all that matters. Let's just wait and see what is announced later in the month. At the very least TSW3 has taught me to hold off and test things for myself off gamepass before sinking any more money into the game. Saved myself quite a few bucks this past year.
     
  18. StrikeEagle78

    StrikeEagle78 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2019
    Messages:
    1,132
    Likes Received:
    3,488
  19. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2021
    Messages:
    2,680
    Likes Received:
    3,441
    • Like Like x 3
  20. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2022
    Messages:
    4,103
    Likes Received:
    4,718
    Can anyone find info on the GARL leak along with the other stuff on tsw4 on epic games store. Could someone send a link to where to find the leaks and stuff?
    Thanks. :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  21. Yosh1saurus

    Yosh1saurus Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2020
    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    31
    Maybe Smithfield is just... a codename for the project? Same vein as Pentadecagon/DLCxxx for TSW3 and whatever the TSW2 one was (despite me being told it several times I forget it).
     
    • Like Like x 2
  22. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2021
    Messages:
    9,510
    Likes Received:
    5,877
    Let's wait and see and my guess is one of the Smithfields might be ECML South KGX to Peterbrough
     
    • Like Like x 2
  23. Kangaroo Conductor

    Kangaroo Conductor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2022
    Messages:
    354
    Likes Received:
    600
    I wonder why they didn't announce next weeks shedule. Or have I missed it ?

    Maybe a surprise preview stream or similar for one of the few remaining "TSW3" releases, like the BR420 or untitled german loco. I think to remember TSG wanted the BR420 out by september ?

    If the big announcement really turns out to be TSW4, the BR420 will be the first DLC to be in the works across three games.
     
  24. nepclassof84

    nepclassof84 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2022
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    690
    They announced something called dtg direct for the 22nd. I assume whatever it is that’s coming will be revealed then.
     
    • Helpful Helpful x 1
  25. neonym#9140

    neonym#9140 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2023
    Messages:
    57
    Likes Received:
    86
    Because of rumour about new country in TSW (central europe) I hope, they picked something that is real to do well. For example, if it is Czechia, anything connected to Prague will be very bad, because you need minimum of 4+ new locomotives and many other new rolling stock, if you want to represent it "not that bad" and it is not real for TSW to add to many things in one addon, but more rural tracks, like Letohrad - Hradec Králové, or Železná Ruda - Klatovy (suggestion https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...183-part-klatovy-Železná-ruda-alžbětín.65111/) can be done in "enough" quality with minimum new rolling stock. It is important to not try to do something big, if there are not resources to do it properly.
    IDK how much content is possible to reuse from Germany, if the new country will be Austria (for example Brennero track from TSC is very beautiful one).
     
    • Like Like x 1
  26. Coppo

    Coppo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2017
    Messages:
    548
    Likes Received:
    960
    Austria would make some sense. The signalling system is similar to Germanys' and the Taurus wouldn't need much modification to make the OBB version. The Eurofima style coaches could also be re-purposed. Freight stock would also be re-usable. They should/ would the n concentrate on a new set of coaches (the long and short Schlieren, which would allow for variations used on Swiss routes), a new wagon (Eanos type please, DTG already has the similar design used on UK railways), and a new engine, 1142 perhaps?. The Vectron could also be given an OBB scheme.
    An Austrian route would also allow for additional services to appear, or be driveable, on some German routes, as they frequently appear in Munich. I also recall seeing some OBB stock travelling along the Rhine, with either a 1216 at each end or a 1216 and a DB control coach. there was also an ICE-T that was leased to OBB.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  27. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2022
    Messages:
    4,103
    Likes Received:
    4,718
    What if each Smithfield is a section of the ECML??.
     
  28. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2022
    Messages:
    4,103
    Likes Received:
    4,718
    Alex said that's on its way. Their just waiting to confirm.
     
  29. Cael

    Cael Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2018
    Messages:
    715
    Likes Received:
    1,489
    The best start would be some local branch line, then you would basically need the 810, 814 or similar, but you can get away with having only one piece of rolling stock.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  30. ECML is 100% coming all easter eggs are there its so easy also its a fun fav on Train Sim Classic and way better if u got it with ATC
     
  31. Cd1990

    Cd1990 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2018
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    283
    If ECML south is confirmed (Peterborough to the Cross is what, 75 miles?), surely that would at least include the TL platforms at St Pancras? Would seem a bit more natural than having to get out of a 700 at Finsbury Park, but then that adds the issue of modelling the walk between the two stations.

    Either way, having the Cross in the game would be wonderful, the roars of a 91's fans would be the cherry on top!
     
    • Like Like x 5
  32. Nice A Class EMU profile photo there...... :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  33. Class 91 for Trent WCML, ECML GEML I'll take all three thanks!!!! ;);););)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  34. Cd1990

    Cd1990 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2018
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    283
    I'm going to be rather sad when they go!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  35. 59321747

    59321747 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2020
    Messages:
    723
    Likes Received:
    384
    ECML, is it London to Edinburgh? The full route package expansion will take four years to complete. OMG!
     
  36. Javelin

    Javelin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2021
    Messages:
    905
    Likes Received:
    1,548
    Class 91 only operates on the Ecml.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  37. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2022
    Messages:
    5,659
    Likes Received:
    10,268
    As said above the 91s only operate the ECML, it is the 90s which have run on the other two.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  38. traindori

    traindori Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2022
    Messages:
    384
    Likes Received:
    1,247
    Is that a hint?

    DTG only speaks of "Train Sim World" here and no longer of "Train Sim World 3". Perhaps the abolition of numbering awaits us now?! In my opinion, it's long overdue to consolidate all titles into one big franchise (Train Sim World) and offer core improvements "for free". Similar to what is done with "Train Simulator Classic", because you pay for the DLC, routes and locomotive anyway.

    [​IMG]

    It remains exciting.
     
    • Like Like x 8
  39. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2022
    Messages:
    5,659
    Likes Received:
    10,268
    As has been said, if they say 4 they ruin the surprise and the same if they say 3. I think they are just holding their cards as close to their chests as possible in the lead up.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  40. MAX1319

    MAX1319 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2022
    Messages:
    2,522
    Likes Received:
    3,789
    DTG Alex did you just give us a big hint? with "in only 8 days left"? are we getting 8 new routes? lol Just kidding, just having a little fun.
    upload_2023-8-14_8-42-46.png
     
    • Like Like x 9
  41. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2022
    Messages:
    5,659
    Likes Received:
    10,268
    No don't be childish that isn't a hint!


    The hint is obviously the time, 6:43
    6: there will be 6 new traction types
    4: It will be the 4th TSW
    3: There will be 3 new routes
    :D:D:D:D:D:D
     
    • Like Like x 15
  42. nepclassof84

    nepclassof84 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2022
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    690
    What you’re supposing sounds more logical than a new game.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  43. MAX1319

    MAX1319 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2022
    Messages:
    2,522
    Likes Received:
    3,789
    Today Smithfields depots Smithsfield General Audience, smithfields101prepurchase,smithfield102,Smithfields102prepurchase,smithfields103,and smithfields103prepurchase were updated 8-14

    upload_2023-8-14_10-1-42.png
     
    • Like Like x 4
  44. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,039
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    101 102 103 are the base routes and them with prepurchase are when you preordered them and you'll get something extra i guess, this has been discussed already though so yeah
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Helpful Helpful x 1
  45. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,039
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    and general audience might be TSW4 itself
     
    • Like Like x 1
  46. MAX1319

    MAX1319 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2022
    Messages:
    2,522
    Likes Received:
    3,789
    Except 101. Smithsfield101preorder is only available for pre order. There is no smithsfields101 depot
     
  47. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2018
    Messages:
    1,058
    Likes Received:
    1,721
    what is smithfeilds exactly?
     
  48. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,039
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    thats probably the codename for TSW4 stuff like oxygen also was a codename for TSW2 someone said on youtube I guess
     
    • Helpful Helpful x 2
  49. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,039
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    hmmm what could that possibly be...
     
  50. Why? Do you drive them?
     

Share This Page