Tsw3 - The Cat Is Out Of The Bag & The Unofficial Tsw3 Speculation Thread

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  1. tsw2

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    I'm actually already disappointed by TSW3 even before the actual announcement.
    But knowing DTG and TSW my expectations are extremely low. I wish I could be hyped but not a chance...sorry
     
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  2. ARuscoe

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    Steam ban?
    I was watching a steam tour through Kent last week
     
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  3. ARuscoe

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    How can you be disappointed when you don't know what it is yet?
     
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  4. tsw2

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    Most likely non of the core issues of TSW will be fixed and I don't care about a new route (we have many already) or a new UI (besides fixing the menu bug that overheats the GPU)
     
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  5. ARuscoe

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    That's low expectations rather than disappointment. You don't know what's been updated, fixed or how it all works yet so whilst you may well be right, don't see how you can be disappointed YET (maybe 18:00 tomorrow)
     
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  6. nuno.andradegb

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    It did cross my mind not too long ago if we are gonna see a TSW3.

    In my opinion, it is only a matter of time until it gets released. DTG love to update their train simulators, but TSW works even better for them since they sell you a new game, rather than just automatically updating it.

    We should give DTG a chance to try and "sell us their fish". We might just be surprised by what they have, and who knows, we might get even longer routes.
     
  7. james64

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    It's only in certain parts of the country. I know it's affecting a lot of Steam hauled railtours right now.
    It's due to the lack of rain lately, lineside vegetation isn't getting enough water so a steam engine passing through greatly increases the fire risk. In fact I think a month or two ago Duchess of Sutherland actually DID start a lineside fire.
     
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  8. ARuscoe

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    Ah OK. Strange that the train I saw went from Faversham to Victoria through the Kent countryside, where a hosepipe ban only came into force in the last few days
     
  9. antony.henley

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    They had a lineside fire on the Swanage Railway over the weekend so on Sunday both 33111 and 33012 were doing the runs. Shame they didnt use the 50 :)

    Hentis
     
  10. james64

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    I think there's a bit of miscommunication between network rail and the operators regarding when steam can and can't be used. Last week Royal Scot worked a railtour it apparently wasn't supposed to, resulting in it being diesel hauled on the return journey with the engine "dead" at the back. Yesterday Clun Castle was supposed to work a tour, and everyone involved was told it could do so up until someone at the very last minute decided it couldn't after all.

    It all seems very touch and go, I don't claim to know all of the details.
     
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  11. uvm0902

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    Why do most people think that if TSW3 is announced on the 9th, then the announced American and German routes are part of it.

    After all, it may be that TSW3 is being announced now, and its release will be in 2023, and not in 2 weeks.

    And all advertised routes are DLC for TSW2, not part of TSW3.
     
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    Because they haven’t said what those routes are on the roadmap. They are hardly likely to announce a big new package for TSW3 and then later announce two more routes for the game it’s replacing. People are just using common sense.
     
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  13. byeo

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    History and common sense.

    The only time TSW didn't get a three route release with the yearly update was TSW2020 and Peninsular Corridor.
     
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    I have gone back to that post and added those images as attachments, so hopefully you can see those images now.
     
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    This big rock looks familiar, yes... :)
     
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    Hard to say what it could be, but if I had to wager a guess the first image has overhead wires, so it might be the German route while the second picture with more greenery might be the U.S. route?

    What I find more unusual is all the stuff surrounding the frame. Is this some sort of hint that TSW is getting a dedicated photo mode? Or is that just done in post-editing?
     
  19. Perks390

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    I see both third rail and overhead in the image with the rocks (they might be the same screenshot?)
     
  20. byeo

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    Thank you.
     
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  21. chieflongshin

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    I’m waiting to see what mediocre feature is badged as mastering the machine ( and then dropped on the next route)
     
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  22. WonterRail

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    So I went ahead and put the two images in roughly the positions they should be and created this.
    Whats in the centre..PNG
    So it's clearly what's in the middle that's missing. What that thing is, I guess we will find out tomorrow... hopefully.
     
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  23. Rob39

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    Complete guess just for the sake of it. Acela reveal- location Chicago?
     
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  24. juliplus#6089

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    I think I got it
     

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  25. chieflongshin

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    After careful consideration, I can confirm this is not ECML.
     
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  26. gazz292

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    Maybe what is missing from the photo above is the BR420 that Maik has been working on, that must be ready by now... only i guess he's under a NDA to tell us we have to wait for TSW3 before he can release it?

    So the line is a remastered version of Hauptstrecke München – Augsburg ???
     
  27. chieflongshin

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    or - to be really controversial. IOW 4 with upgraded coats.
     
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    When May 2021 was the announcement of "Rush Hour" and "Spirit of Steam" information about the contents of these packages became known much later.

    According to information from Epic Game, a possible release date for TSW3 has been announced in 2023.

    Accordingly, the announced routes are likely to be released before the release date of TSW3.
     
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  29. Snek

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    The environment looks southern and the track looks like it might have a dual gauge... so... could it be a Spanish route? ;) But I'm probably wrong and they've just tricked us with all the "flying to the destination" posts...

    I love trying to crack teasers like these, more please :love:
     
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  30. AirbourneAlex

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    It would seem a bit weird for DTG to do a new country after dismissing that possibility as highly unlikely so many times on stream...
    At a stretch it might be an Austrian route, where to my (limited) knowledge they have a lot in common with German railways?
     
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  31. solicitr

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    Say what?
     
  32. FD1003

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    Ooooh interesting.

    A few observations.
    • Concrete sleepers, together with the OLE means it's relatively modern (or used often enough to be upgraded) track.
    • Superelevation is present, perhaps ruling out some older UK routes.
    • OHLE height seems more EU to me, aren't the wires usually slightly higher up in the US or is it just a stereotype I invented out of thin air?
    • Don't think it's high speed track, isn't that usually painted white to aid thermal expansion or is just an italian thing? Also it just doesn't look like a HSL.
    • 150 200 F35 (or F3.5) what does that mean?
     
  33. dangerousdave

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    Looks like a top contact third rail to me non covered which rules out the US and most of Europe?
     
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  34. Snek

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    Those are just camera settings, it's implied that this is a photo.
     
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    stuff relating to a camera taking the photo... F3.5 is the aperture setting, ISO 200 is the film speed (used on digital cameras as a way to increase or decrease sensitivity)


    So i guess it's showing off the new photo taking feature in TSW3?
     
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  36. OnlyMe1909

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    I'm not knowledgeable in these things, but could they be camera settings. Maybe this is a hint of the inclusion of a more detailed picture mode in TSW3.

    LOL 3 people saying the same thing at the same time :)
     
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    is 2025
     
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    Thanks. Yes now that I think about it I think I recall something along those lines. Maybe just filler to make the image cooler or a hint to a better camera system.
     
  39. theorganist

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    It is due to the very dry conditions we have had over the last few weeks.
     
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  40. james64

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    Due to many parts of the UK not having seen rain in months a ban is in place to prevent steam engines being allowed out onto the main line (and even some preserved lines). This is due to the increased risk of lineside fires posed by steam engines, as the vegetation is incredibly dry and parched. However as discussed above, things seem a bit patchy at the moment.

    Point is (and going back to the original post that brought it up), it's highly unlikely that either of the two currently operational Jubilees would be steamed just for DTG to gawk at it for a bit. And besides, "breathtaking scenery" is hardly the first term I'd use to describe Carnforth Motive Power Depot! Although It would be amazing to visit no doubt. And obviously no flight would be needed to get there, unless Sam was driving the Pendolino up from London and tried to get it to take off like the TGV.
     
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    F3.5 is the settings for a camera! iso and aperture shutter speed as well
     
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  42. james64

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    I believe that's an advanced deception tactic called "lying".

    On the topic of the photos, it doesn't look like it's British, so the sinking feeling that no new British route is coming for the foreseeable future has only gotten stronger for me. I just hope it doesn't turn out to be another modern German route that I can't tell apart from the bajillion previous ones. The roadmap implies one is coming anyway, but I'd be disappointed if it was used as the first look at "the future of TSW". I wouldn't say no to a new ICE route though, especially if we could really let it loose. I'd prefer to see Acela though personally.
     
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    You made me lol. It would be even funnier when this turns out to be accurate :D
     
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    With all the gripe about TSW not having more countries, I am wondering if this is Austria and if we will get a OBB service crossing into Germany perhaps. So Munich - Salzburg maybe.
     
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    I think TSW3, if that’s what this is, will include this new route that we are speculating and the German and American route a long side it. They just finished doing a ton of work getting steam into the game which was for a British route so I’m not surprised they are leaving it for a bit.
     
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    This simple sentence epitomises the TSW forums.
    The rational majority may just "SMH" and not reply, some will, and then there are the perma-triggered, ready for any announcement with vitriolic anti-DTG slander.

    Just read your stupid statement tsw2.

    That is the dumbest statement I have ever read on these forums, and that is saying something ffs.
     
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    Now that i think about it Maybe Spain?
     
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    You may have the wrong end of a stick. Nobody else has mentioned Epic announcing anything, certainly not an ambiguous ‘possible’ release date. Every day is a possible release date. There was a fake TSW3 page on a dodgy resellers page that had 2023 on it but that’s all that was, a fake entry.
     
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    The lighting and ballast in those chopped screenshots remind me of Riesa - Dresden a bit, maybe the new German route?
     
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  50. AirbourneAlex

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    New countries require lots of new assets, so as far as the truthfulness of those statements goes, it seems fairly legitimate to me.
    Then again this whole thing could be a complete mislead and instead we're just getting another TSW2 route bundle like Rush Hour...
     

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