[tsw_controller] Control Train Sim World With A Joystick

I wonder if this is something not specific to the Master Controller... I'm struggling to make a profile for the 1972 Stock, despite using the same method as for the Class 377 (Throttle with notches). The handle moves strangely, sometimes not in the right direction...
The funny thing is that if I use my 377 profile with the 1972 stock, it works better than the specific 1972 stock profile... Actually, all my profiles created before version 2.0.1/2.0.2 are working flawlessly. Only the ones created since seem to be problematic.

 

Cant beat a bit of hardware hacking, some people would simply ask 'isn't there an app i can download that changes the handles'

 

I have now changed a few things again, which should fix the blocking loop and the problems with the MasterController. I have again attached a .zip file.

This is weird. I compared an old auto-converted train with one created in the new version and they look identical to me in TrainConfig. Could you maybe try to create the Class 377 (under a different name so you don't overwrite it) in the new version and then send both to me so I can compare the differences between the old, and the new train?

Regards
Jannik

 

Forgot the zip file

 

Hi Jannick,
It seems that the issue is fixed for the Master Controller. I tested with the 423, 425 and 442 and could not reproduce the issue. I may have to test a little longer though.
As for the issue with the 1972 stock and the test with the 377, I may need some time. Vacations are over and I returned to work today... I now have less time for TSW2...
In all cases, thanks a lot for your support, I will keep you posted.

 

So, I finally managed to do some testing. I confirm the issue with the master controller is resolved. Thanks a lot Jannick!

Regarding the 1972 stock, I did the test with creating a new profile with the 377 and it is perfectly working. So it's just me struggling with the 1972... If anyone has a profile and would like to share it, it would be really appreciated..

 

Ok, thanks for testing! I don't know if you've tried this already, but I also configured the 1972 Stock in the new tutorial. Maybe that will help you
You can find it here:
https://youtu.be/Sej1L0p_myo?t=2598

 

Hi all. Any idea for Class 395 Javelin setting? Experimenting with Fabrice's 375 setup but not the best yet.. The problem here is the mixed version of Power Handle. It has notches in throttle and percentages in brake.

 

You have a screenshot by any chance?

 

I would be interrested by a screenshot as well.
Thanks,
Fabrice

 

Another very nice initiative, it's really great all these initiatives that are presented here by public users who for the most part do it out of passion, it's notice all that TSW has allowed creativity and this in sharing a Many thanks to all of you and keep up the good work!!!
Sincerely, tof

 

Can anyone help with the 395? I spent several hours on it and still cannot have the brake area working. All power notches, up to Off and Min braking is working, but I'm unable to set the continuously variable section to work.
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Thanks,
Fabrice

 

I am having the same issue, I cant get the braking section to work properly. No matter what I do it is getting stuck from B3 to Off putting the controller out of sync. When I push the joystick handle slightly forward and the brake handle in the game flies into position 8 or 9 and then doesn't return in sync with the joystick. Please if anyone out there has a solution would be really really appreciated

 

Hey, sorry for being away for so long. I don't own the Class 395, but I think I would use the master controller and then subdivide the throttle area into sections. I have briefly sketched my idea.

So I would divide the throttle area of my controller into these red sections (Reassign joy states), so that I kind of create my own notches.
You then need to create the special cases, that point to the notches (P1=25 P2=50 ...).
And then you need to add the long press points, so the program jumps from one notch to the next. (0|25:300 25|50:300 ...)

I hope you understand what I mean. I haven't tested the idea yet, so it is quite possible that it won't work.

Regards
Jannik

 

Hi Jannick,
No worries, you have the right to be away. Good idea, I will try your solution and report back.
Thanks,
Fabrice

 

I have another little question for you guys. Has anyone tried the program with TSW3? And if so, does it still work or not?

 

I'm using your software with TSW3 from release without any issue, it is working perfectly.

 

Are you using the Steam or Microsoft/Xbox version?

 

Steam.

 

I have tried this so far with the Javelin:



The notched section is working, but as soon as I move the throttle backwards it just applies full emergency braking. Hopefully someone can figure out what I've done wrong or suggest something to try. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here but it is very tricky!

 

Thank you for this software! I recently got the Zuiki one handed controller and I am trying to set it up for TSW3. But I am a bit confused as to how to set it up for trains like the BR401 which has independent throttle and brake levers. I can only make the throttle work. Can you actually use a single axis to setup these kind of trains?

 

I'm having the same issue. Handle also move erratically in the brake section (sometime going to full power) before going to Emergency braking. I wonder if this is because the 395 HUD text does not have clear "brake" and "power" sections. The brake section indicates xx% brake, but the power section just shows the 4 notches (1, 2 3 and 4). Also, Emergency brake is just "Emergency", not "Emergency Brake".

 

No, you can only use one joystick axis for one controller in the sim. But you should be able to use it for combined controllers like in the BR422.

You could enable "Debug information" to see what the program is doing. Alternatively, click on "Help" -> "Go to Config" and look into the log files. These give more detailed information on what the program does and why.

For this, you should only have to add "Emergency=-100" to the special cases.

 

I think I've figured it out! I'll do a test drive to confirm but here is my setup:
(Using left hand throttle from my thrustmaster airbus throttle)
The goal was to have the middle position be "Off", throttle towards me adding power, throttle away adding brake. Calibrated throttle range so full back is 100 and full forward is -100.

Reassign Joy states:

Code:

-6|24=0 25|49=25 50|74=50 75|95=75 95|100=100 -7|-25=-25

There is a little bit of "slop" in my throttle in the middle position, so the power off range is from -6 to 24 instead of 0 to 24, you will need to experiment with this for your own setup. The -7 to -25 range is for applying minimum brake.

Convert special cases:

Code:

Emergency=-100 Max_Brake=-98 Min_Brake=-25 Off=0 1=25 2=50 3=75 4=100

I noticed in the debug log it sometimes thinks 'Off' is 'Dff' so if you're having trouble add

Code:

Dff=0

as well.

Time factor:

Code:

116|116

I went through the wizard and got something like 3|116 because of the power position, I just set this to the same on both sides and it worked.

Long press:

Code:

0|25:300 25|0:300 25|50:300 50|25:300 50|75:300 75|50:300 75|100:300 100|75:300 0|-25:300 -25|0:300 -98|-100:300 -100|-98:300

These are for switching between the four power settings and off, off and min brake, max brake and emergency brake.

Make sure you use a master controller and add the correct text labels.

I will go test this out now!

 

Just used this on the Class 484, seems to be working great, thanks! Altho there are 7 notches on the 484, is there anyway I can improve the notches by editing these numbers?

 

Thanks a lot Sam. I also have an Airbus Throttle, but still unable to have the brake area to work correctly. I still have the handle move erratically. I worked on the timing and found that I have better results using 1|116 or 2|116 as time factor. Now I think that my issues may come from the reading of the HUD. I noticed that the software reads silly things like "Power Handle Emergenc)" instead of "Emergency" or things like "P -. Power Handle 81% Brake"...
Out of curiosity, are you on TSW2 or TSW3 ? What did you set in the Master Controller settings ?
Thanks,
Fabrice

 

Quick update V2.0.6:
The program now also supports TSW4.
Lower TSW versions can still be used, but you have to activate the compatibility in settings.

 

Do you have Discord Jannick?
Because i need help. Im triying it for days now. I cant read the Timefactor and i cant programm a kombilever for the BR642 and other. I werent able to programm and use any train so far.

Thx for an answer.

 

Please provide a bit more information. When trying to get the timefactor, does the program crash, does it give you a message box, do your in-game levers move at all?

Regards
Jannik

 

Hello, I have Problems to program the new Steuerwagen Expert (IC), the "Steuerwagen" from the 101 Expert (IC)
I don't know how to program the "Fahrschalter", which starts with four notches: 0, Unten, Halten, Oben (no notch) and than something like a doubleclick and you continue with no notches from "Min." to "Max." in %.
Could anybody help me?

 

Hey,
I think I don't quite understand the behavior of this controller... but if its just 4 notched positions and then continiously variable you could do could just sacrifice some numbers for the notches. For example:
Special cases:
Unten=1 Halten=2 Oben=3 Min=4 1=5 2=5 3=5 Max=100
(1=5 2=5 3=5 if the HUD shows 2 percent, it would otherwise think it's in the "Halten" state)
Controller behavior:

This would roughly reassign the range of the joystick from
100 - 90 to "Unten",
90 - 80 to "Halten",
80 - 70 to "Oben"
Maybe this can help you ^^

Regards
Jannik

 

Haha you spelt updates like uppdates.

I overtly created an account just to tell you this, and thank you, the uppmost. Apps awesome!

 

Yannick the young shooter!

 

Whoops, never noticed that. I have corrected it in v2.0.8
Thank you for making me aware of it!

 

Hello Jannik, I am using a Logitech/Saitek throttle quadrant and wanted to use the thrust reverse portion at the bottom of the lever travel as a toggle for emergency brakes but for some reason logitech/saitek in their infinite wisdom decided to make that portion a button instead of an axis. Is there a way to configure the program to read pressing the button as holding/long pressing "d" then releasing the button as long pressing "a"? Or perhaps have a button set a controller lever to go into a notch outside the controller's set travel and return to the previous state upon release? Thanks in advance and love the program.

 

Hey nomadskye,
you could try to set it up as a "controller as button" and then ether configure it as just an action (so it will hold down the button for as long as the button is pressed) or you set up a macro. There you could configure it to hold down d for e.g. 1 second and then hold down a for 1 second. But there is no way to add a button as an additional notch. Only workarounds could help you.
I hope that helps

Regards
Jannik