Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by nne4229, Dec 13, 2018.
What's going on and how can this situation of communication be improved?
DTG-martin is community manager
He is not the actual community manager. He just is acting in place when people quit.
This is not the point of this discussion anyways,
Luke made it clear he didn’t quit because of the job itself. He left DTG because the commute to work was just too much for him. He still wants to be actively involved in the community.
Perhaps they were sick and tired of being heckled and harassed by forum members?
Commute too much? lol. I live in Alaska and have a 32 mile work commute. I don't even wanna hear it That's funny.
You gotta be real gullible to believe that was the real reason he quit his job at a place like this.
A commute isn’t always just about distance.
His reasons are his own and gate-keeping what constitutes reasonable commutes to other people isn't for you to determine.
I feel like the recent posts to the forums, developer updates and the stream that took place today are positive steps towards improving PR and I hope we get more of that.
Are you hinting that the community is somehow bullying DTG community managers? Hilarious
Luke was having to drive for nearly 2 hours to get into work each day due to the traffic between his home and our offices.
To those who doubt, I live about a mile from DTG's Chatham offices and going either to or from that location is a pain in the butt, morning and night.
DTG's Chatham offices are 30 something miles from London. A good two hours each way at rush hour unless there's an incident, in which case you can double that in some cases. My 12 mile commute can take up to 90 minutes each way. I also regularly drive to Denmark, 730 miles and 11 hours each way. What's your point?
Only 32 miles?
My commute to the Dovetail office was 99.5 miles. Each way. I was clocking up 1000 miles per week on my own car. I kept it going for as long as I could but in the end it wasn't financially viable (fuel costs, car maintenance costs)...
That really was the only reason I left. I didn't want to leave the job. There was no shady conspiracy.
I can understand that for sure, I wouldn't do it.
In these days of ‘working from home’ I’m a little surprised that DTG doesn’t head off people leaving by allowing them to work at least some days from home. I know team contact is important but surely community manager is one of those roles that could be a couple of days a week out of the office?
If that's the only role they played...
As someone who wears five different "hats" at work...
@ruscoe how do you know that those other 'hats' couldn't be carried out remotely? This is a tech firm after all - and very common in the industry.
Throw it straight back at you... Quite a lot of "tech industry jobs" also can't be done remotely.
there are also a lot of companies where "bums in seats" are as important as productivity, so depends on the ethos of the directors...
I'll leave that thought with you
ARuscoe 'ethos of the directors'? 'I'll leave that thought with you'
In thirty years of working in Tech, for three very large and well known companies, I can't think of very few examples of jobs that couldn't be performed with some level of remote working. Everybody from the people running the network, the developers, the marketers, HR, testers - these days don't need to be in the office all of the time. My wife was a system engineer for a major bank. When she was on call do you think she went into the office in the middle of the night?
After all if everyone needs to be in the same place how come DTG have more than one geographical location?
As for companies that believe that having 'bums on seats' is as important as Productivity, they need to wake up. One, Productivity will always be more important and two modern tech workers aren't Cobol programmers of old in their outlook on life.
I'm sure there was a reason why someone did the mileage rather than using alternate means. I neither know nor really care.
It’s a shame the DTG offices are so poorly located, right in the extreme corner of the country.
If you could choose anywhere to have a new office location, I’d place it in the Midlands (middle of the country)
Or better yet in Canada... where we drive on the proper side of the road and as a result have 0 traffic since we are polite to a fault.
But, but that's not in the SE. Everyone knows that the SE is the place to live and work.
That's a joke btw.
They also have offices in scotland...
So offices at literally opposite ends of the country. Not very convenient for anyone living in between.
It’s very difficult to type irony. Don’t think you caught it in my last response
They could always take the train. Southern trains especially are known for their competitive pricing, frequency, puntuality and reliability..
Thameslink go to Chatham now... same group of course
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