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  1. docsnyder1911

    docsnyder1911 Well-Known Member

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    And when TSG will bring out the DB BR 233, we will have a stunning collection with the former DR Br 132.
     
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  2. Lamplight

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    In terms of configuration, yes, but I don’t think they were scheduled to run there. I mean, the 90s were a wild time and as anything goes on railways anyways, that makes it doubly true, but I can’t think of anything they would have regularly pulled on the route.

    Pretty much as was the case in real life. 141s and 140s were what was mainly used in real life. The way DTG put the 110 on everything is more artistic license.

    The runs you put a 140 on were usually 141 runs as far as I know. No doubt the 140 filled in a lot though (they were the jack of all trades after all). Do you remember where you got the 111 REs from? Don’t think REs existed yet at the time of LFR.

    A backdated 218 would be really good for LFR as well as you say. The Saarbrücken and Emmelshausen traffic would be nice to have properly. And please don’t let it fall to a modder :) That would mean no one on consoles could enjoy it!
     
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  3. AmityBlight

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    It seems these services were pretty much mixed, with 140, 141 mainly and occasionally 110, if nothing else was available. As you said, the mid-to-late 90's were very wild in terms of train compositions :)
    There are a couple of highly interesting videos on Youtube, during a flood in the Bingen area:
    BR 141
    BR 140

    I've read about those services just recently in a contemporary issue of Lokrundschau... do you know this magazine? Just dug out a whole box with older issues in my attic, and got very nostalgic while flipping through them :D
    LFR is set in 1998, right? If my memory is correct, the train types N and E have been converted to RB and RE in late 1995 or early 1996 :)
     
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  4. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    AmityBlight, thank you. The name rings a bell though a quick online search didn’t turn anything useful up. I think you’re right about the introduction of REs (in my head, I always link it to the later cancellation of the IRs because of the way many REs partly replaced IRs). If memory serves, LFR is set in 1997 and at leat the TSW timetable doesn’t have REs but SBs/RSBs still. I don’t have any documents to look up whether that is prototypical though. I could find some pictures of 111s on REs post 2000 (around 2014) but none in the era depicted.
     
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    The Bundesbahn service categories were (in ascending order) S-Bahn, Nahverkehr (local service), Eilzug ("through" train), Schnellzug (express train, confusingly coded D for historical reasons), Fernzug (long-distance train) and Intercity. After the merger, the N-, E- D- and some F- trains were replaced by/reclassified as RB, RE and IR.*

    The Interregio was killed off much later, in the 2000s. Cynics say it's because DBFV didn't want a no-surcharge train taking passengers away from the IC. At any rate, when it went away DB Regio in conjunction with several State governments set about trying to replace it with the InterRegio Express (IRE), which might be the source of your recollection)
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    *The first IR services actually predated the merger
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    The CityBahn > Stadt Express was an anomaly, that only really existed in the Rhein-Main transit region. It lasted as late as 2016
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Easy Backdate Tharandter Rampe Dresden Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) Bahnstrecke Leipzig Dessau & Nahverkehr Dresden to the Communist era
     
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    mkraehe#6051 Well-Known Member

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    Not easy at all. Huge amounts of infrastructure on both those lines were ripped out and completely rebuilt after reunification.
     
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  9. Lamplight

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    AmityBlight, theorganist, I have a correction to share. I actually checked the Fernverkehrsdatenbank (which has a wealth of documentation on long distance/InterCity traffic) and curiously, the 111 was actually scheduled to run the IC pair 720/721 in 1997. So that’s something that TSGs’ upcoming backdated 111 could be put to work on.
     
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    Lamplight, that's very interesting, didn't know it! I was under the impression that they had been relegated to regional services at this time, but it seems they serviced some individual IC's and IR's until around 1999.

    So TSG, please give us the blue/beige 111 on LFR :love:
    And perhaps more of the backdated rolling stock, while you're at it? :cool:
     
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  11. operator#7940

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    I don't think we'll get anything in more than one era.
    At least not from DTG.
    A different area though maybe.
    There's really nothing in the Northeast of Germany. Nothing north of Dresden and east of Oldenburg?
    That's a huge area to find for a route and any of it would work.
    I'm more concerned that DTG doesn't like to do "older routes" (and East Germany is fading into the past) so it's moving outside of their comfort window. Then again, maybe a Third Party would do it?
    It's a dream anyway.
    We'll see.
     

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