Upcoming Us Content (train And Route) Guesses + Opnions If We Get Tsw5?

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Also the Amtrak surfliner is in TSC has 124 mile run LA to San Diego it better over on TSC things not perfect with it either but lots more NA routes and content

 

Even then the F59PHI doesnt have a chance with Pacific Surfliner as they sold all of theirs to Metra, and only run the Charger now. So the only way a F59PHI could appear is if DTG visit Amtrak California in Oakland and get a reference from there.

 

also there might be another reason that route can't be built. LIDAR might not be available in area that people want DTG to make a route.

 

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there prob wont be a chrager either unless they get a licence and they get access for the 100pct sound quality ..lol

 

DTG literally got references from Amtrak equipment when they were on their Metrolink trip, they have the material ready if needed.

DTG has also used Siemens equipment in the past.

 

im to the point now TSW is going to the back burner for me i may not spend anther dime on it util i see major changes for the better esp freight content .but they way its looking it wont be anytime soon..going over to TSC id recommend it to those getting flustered with this TSW stalemate i feel sorry for those tied to consoles who want freight and other stuff TSW doesent seem to want to provide since TSC PC only but has more variety old and new some longer routes NA UK and others ..again its kinda says something when to get more variety got to go back on a older franchise when the new one wont go forward

 

DTG also burned their bridge with Searchlight Simulations, so they can't get sounds from them either.[/QUOTE]

interesting I think I heard a couple of people say from yt in the tsw community say that the reference they got from an Amtrak train may have been for the Siemens charger? Don’t know Tbf I may be wrong

 

Such a Dtg move right there lol

 

Believe the 2nd photo is a Siemens Charger cab, given at the time the ALC-42's may not of been in LA at the time, its mostly likely a Pacific Surfliner SC-44 Cab.

 

Alright cool

 

The Siemens hopefully will come to TSW since its also becoming amtraks new diesel of choice strarting to replace the aging P42s even other NA passenger agencys are getting Siemens locos as new power ..that alone wont sell me TSW 4 s successor going to have to lots of positive changes on freight side for NA before i drop more Quid on the TSW franchchise ..and if that dont happen then there are other options vying for my money..ive got a lots invested in it i have most of the DLC routes except 6 have every NA route passenger and freight every NA locomotive dlc too so DTG should be hearing out customers like me and others who may have every route and DLCsad that this whole thing has become such a big thing ive noticed others getting more and more upset over the stuff thats being or not being done with the franchise i was over on the enough is enough forum right now its the biggest repoce forum on here seeing ppl upset that tsw 4 sucessor comming soon and DTG hasnt delivered all the stuff promised for tsw4 suspension still hasnt fully come ..formation designer still in beta etc NA content esp freight getting short end of the stick ..its starting to even upset me more like its getting worse not better in TSW .it a shame that i had to go to a 15 year old franchise game which is also a DTG franchise but it like night day difference in amount of content for NA and even others im finding compared to TSW 4..seem like something has gone wrong somewhere there

 

Dumb move by DTG to pull considering they have access a lot of good class 1 sounds

 

It would be good to see a Route for that Passenger Train called VRE They have the Locomotive They have the Sounds for the Locomotive The Route is missing The Cars are missing although I don't know if they have a License to create the Route a replacement for the Metra Trains Locomotive is MPI MP36PH-3C and NS GALLERY Cars with NS GALLERY Cab Cars

 

I believe we can get another long LIRR route, i can see the Babylon branch in LIRR being in the game. With that you'd have the LIRR DM30AC and DE30AC with their C3's. But i know the surfliner route has been requested by many for TSW for years now and i wouldn't mind the route.

 

I probably wouldnt purchase any future LIRR routes unless the DE30 or DM30 s are included in it tired of just EMU DMU s in NA UK routes need more variety and balance of train types locomotives and routes ..

 

I was playing TSC yesterday , for the first time i looked deeply at all available content routes Locomotive s scenario and vintage dlc paks ..If TSW had that same variety there would be less complaints about types of content ..TSW needs this badly ..TSC definitely has way better balance or routes locomotive s rolling stock old new and in between

 

want add what i looked at was all just on the regular store page in TSC and not the additional stuff avail via 3rd party sites

 

Quality vs Quantity, alot of the vintage packs, especially by HIS arn't very good. Poor physics, inaccurate stock, boring or inaccurate scenarios. Terrible sounds.

At least the routes are somewhat decent.

But don't worry, once HIS comes to TSW, you'll get the same mass produced packs that they put on TSC.

(At least the HIS stock on TSW will have) Reppo input, so maybe that'll save them.

 

About LIRR. I don't think there will be some new LIRR content until TSW 7. Diesels on existing route are pointless. The one and only chance is the Oyster Bay, because no one will made Greenport or Montauk lines. Still some chance with Port Jefferson. But all this will not happen soon.
About Pacific Surfliner. LA - San Diego will be a huge route for TSW standards. Very low chance that we will see such a length. More likely is the option to Oceanside. I hope DTG realizes how unacceptable this will be for those waiting for this route.
Hudson Line and Miami - West Palm Beach is the variants everyone is talking about for years. And I don't think that on of those will be the core route for TSW5.
I'm waiting for another disappointment.

 

I don't see how Oceanside is unacceptable. Especially given the box DTG has made.

-Metrolink Terminates at Oceanside, similar to how NJT terminates at Trenton, and it makes no sense to extend the route further without the commuter lines traffic to the next major station (SEPTA and Phillidelphia for NYT, and COASTER and San Diego for Pacific Surfliner)

 

Like some Trenton was unacceptable for everyone's who's waited for Philadelphia. Like wrong part of ECML. Like Finnentrop instead of Siegen. And so on.

 

ya guess it prob end up more of the same old same im to point cant expect anything good from anything these days thats how it in most things nowadays. Just shove half arsed LOVE on the masses and charge too much for a pile of nothing .

 

And that's the problem. DTG orients on local operators, instead of Amtrak which is the star of the show.

 

And I 100% bet if DTG made NYT to Phillidelphia instead of Trenton, the forums will have complaints about the lack of SEPTA from Trenton to Phillidelphia. (Not to mention the terrible scenery of trying to make a route that long in their time frame.)

Not to mention throwing all of that ON TOP of the issues NYT already had from it's original state.

 

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i bought the Philadelphia NY route in TSC ..TSW cant have it cause of the route length

 

You're right. Lack of SEPTA trains would be the main source of discontent and it would be justified. But we would have a logically completed route. Not "let's make all Amtrak trains will stop at Trenton".
As for scenery, I’ll say this: everything that is not a UK looks very bad in TSW(I mean routes made by DTG), despite its length. So I'm not sure we would have noticed a dramatic degradation in scenery as the route grew longer.

 

DTG insists on getting lots of high quality photos and sound for developing NA stuff maybe they should be doing the same for scenery topography structures etc on a route so it all get decent replication

 

guess we just need to give HIS a chance hopefully they wont blow it..they need to step up thier game since they going to develop content in TSW

 

I liked seeing the Saluda Grade Route created by High Iron Simulations a Classic Route like that would be good

 

Surfliner would be nice. Amtrak and DTG could reuse their BNSF stuff.

 

If lidar data is available

 

Needs more 3rd parties. Tsw barely has any. Things also take much longer to make in tsw.

 

Yes is true, it needs third parties and since it is a Realistic Simulator, it takes much longer, that is why on the 9th of each Month they release an Update of what they are doing and reduce the tensions of the Train Sim World Fans.

 

Worth noting, don't expect any US steam on TSW from Smokebox anytime soon.

 

You are absolutely correct at least they can simply reskin ACS-64 600-670 into 901-915.

Furthermore there are septa comet II-IVs 1987-1999 builds which can then be reconfigured or reskinned into NJ Transit​

 

Ya know, I think the exact same thing about commuter runs....
Yet the majority of the customer base seems to enjoy them.
More power to them, even if we have different ideas of "fun" =-)

 

It would be like not doing any passenger content in German or UK routes.

 

My US loco wishlist:
-GP60 (UP, BNSF, ATSF, NS, CSX, SP), ATSF/BNSF GP60M(-3), ATSF/BNSF GP60B
-B40-8 and B40-8W
-C44-9W/BNSF AC44C4M/NS AC44C6M (including NS #4822 in special livery)/UP rebuilt C44ACM
-AC6000CW/C4460AC/C44ACM/ES46AH
-ET44AC/C4
-CSX Heritage ES44AHs (Conrail unit included)
-CSX rebuilt SD40-3s, GP40-3s, GP38-3s, and SD23T4s/ET23DCMs
-NS Conrail Heritage ES44AC and SD70ACe Heritage Pack
-NS power for HSC: SD70ACC, SD70ACU, SD70IAC/ACe, SD40E, SD40-2 Admiral Cab, GP40-2, GP59E/ECO, GP33ECO, SD33ECO, SD80MAC, SD70M, SD60E (w/ NS OCS Train), etc.
-CPKC locos: AC4400CWM, SD70ACU (military and heritage units included), ES44AC (CPKC new livery, CP, KCS), SD30C-ECO, GP20C-ECO, SD40-2, GP38-2
-SD70ACe-T4
-SD70M (UP, SP)
-SD70MAC (including rebuilt SD70AC, SD70MACe, and SD70MACH)
-SD90MAC/SD90-43MAC
-BNSF AC4400CW
-Siemens Chargers
-P42DC Genesis (also P40DC and P32AC-DM)
-F45/FP45
-FM Trainmaster
-SD45-2
-SD45
-SD45X
-SD50
-GP50
-GP40-2/-3
-SD60 series
-Alco, Baldwin, and FM diesels
-UP Heritage Fleet: E9 A-B-A, #4014, #844
-UP #3985 and #6936
-UP Gas Turbines (all versions)
-SD7/SD9 "Cadillacs"
-Milwaukee Road electrics (Bi-Polar, Little Joe, Quill, Boxcab)
-PRR GG1s and E44s
-PRR Steam
-ATSF #3751 and #2926 4-8-4s
-N&W J (#611), A, and Y6b
-SP Cab Forwards
-UP 4-12-2s
-UP rebuilt SD59MX; also BNSF SD32ECO rebuilds
-ATSF/BNSF SD75M/I; also CN SD75I/ACC
-EMD F and E-Units
-SP #4449 GS-4

-My US route wishlist:

-BNSF/ATSF Seligman Sub: Needles, CA-Winslow, AZ
-UP Evanston Sub: Ogden, UT-Green River, WY
-Brightline/FEC: Miami-West Palm Beach-Orlando
-Pacific Surfliner: LA-San Diego
-Powder River Coal (BN/C&NW or UP/BNSF)
-UP Bailey Yard (North Platte, NE)-Omaha, NE
-Alaska RR: Anchorage-Seward
-CP/CPKC Kicking Horse Pass: Revelstoke-Lake Louise
-D&RGW Soldier Summit: Salt Lake City-Helper, UT
-Marias Pass (GN, BN, or BNSF): Shelby-Whitefish, MT
-GN/BN/BNSF Stevens Pass/Scenic Sub: Wenatchee-Mukilteo, WA
-Amtrak/Sounder/BNSF Cascades Line: Seattle-Portland
-WP/UP Feather River Canyon: Oroville-Portola, CA
-SP/UP Donner Pass: Roseville, CA-Reno, NV
-ATSF Raton Pass
-SP/ATSF or UP/BNSF Tehachapi Pass: Mojave-Bakersfield
-PRR or Conrail Horseshoe Curve DLCs
-PRR NEC
-CSX Harper's Ferry
-Milwaukee Road route w/ electric locos
-Chicago Metra/BNSF Line
-BNSF Fallbridge Sub and UP Portland Sub (Columbia River Gorge)
-Grand Canyon RR (ATSF era or Present-day)
-SP Peninsula Corridor: SF-Gilroy; 1960s-70s

 

Yeah that's a pretty big wishlist. =-)

 

Erm heritage railroads? How do you think all the vintage UK diesels and steamers got added to the game?

 

If freight is done just A to B to C, you know like a passenger route, then yes it can be boring. But if it’s done as in TS and Trainz where you have to assemble a freight train from various points in a yard, then drop some en route to customers which involves cutting and reassembling, then delivering at final destination. Add a few steep inclines etc. Believe me this is more interesting to drive than a tame passenger service.
What is boring to me is racing from A to B in an Acela where you can just put your feet up on the dash.
TS shunting puzzles really test the player.

 

Agreed.
Another good example is in Railroader.
It's not JUST shunting or JUST driving. It's both and it involves figuring out how to make all the pieces "fit" along with the challenges of the drive.
The opposite of one-handle EMUs.

 

US heritage railroads are limited in speed, so equipment cant be ran at mainline speeds for correct audio recording per Matt.

Things are ALOT differently ran over here than over there.

 

Not really, private lines are limited to 20mph here too. It’s a case of getting the recordings at that speed and then simply using a computer program to estimate the increase in decibels based on the increases in 5mph increments from 0 to 20mph. Not a problem in this day and age.
They also managed to do it with the Clinchfield RR too. I think reading between the lines it’s actually more sales related…

 

Im only repeating what Matt said, so Im taking that and running with it.

 

So Clinchfield RR then - did they just guess?

 

The routes id like to see are Saluda grade SR to Ns era s , NS Pocahontas Dist Bluefield West Virginia area ,CSX New River line in Southern west virginia , NS CNOTP rathole line in ky and Tn, CSX Corbin KY area CPKC ex KCS line KC Heavner Okarea,

 

Or they reused the old 567 sounds from TSC, but I never compared them.

Could of also been part of the sounds they got from a model train manufacture they had archived. (This is where IIRC where some of the older sounds came from)

 

I think Seattle Subdivision will satisfy the wishes of many. Even a small part from Seattle to Tacoma.

 

Trains have different sounds when they are static vs when they are running. They also need to be at a certain notch for some time to get the full sound and they can't just go straight to notch 8 and hold it there on a heritage railway. It's not just louder