Updates 3/16/22

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  1. metro north railfan 224

    metro north railfan 224 Active Member

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    No the update has nothing to do with the Harlem line
     
  2. DTG Natster

    DTG Natster Producer Staff Member

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    The most up to date information about the updates can be found here. And the community team will ensure you are kept informed. https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/custom-liveries-important-update.52890/

    The teams are continuing to work on this issue as a priority. At this moment in time there are no plans to postpone Harlem, please can we not start this rumour.

    We have temporarily delayed the celebration stream as it didn't feel like it was in good spirits to be celebrating TSW while users were experiencing difficulties.
     
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  3. metro north railfan 224

    metro north railfan 224 Active Member

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    Thank you so much Nat. I’m glad you could clear things up
     
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  4. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    Wow thats a big jump to reach that conclusion!!

    1) We dont have an ETA on when this issue will be fixed and if this will be before or after tomorrow afternoon.
    2) We dont know if the lack of update will prevent Harlem from launching.
    3) We certainly dont know if they are going to proceed with the launch on some platforms and not others.
     
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  5. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    Glad to hear that it hopefully doesn't affect Harlem Line, and excuse us for being overly bitter. It is an awkward situation, but I hope you guys will be able to fix it quickly.
     
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  6. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

    PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix Well-Known Member

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    you are wrong we are talking about something else, not the Harlem Line. The Harlem line is releasing tomorrow, we are talking about the update for the skybox. You got to read the message before properly responding.
     
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  7. Scorpion71

    Scorpion71 Well-Known Member

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    Slightly off topic but whatever happened to the 'Don't update this game' option on Steam?
     
  8. Mr JMB

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    This is a bad day, another one sadly. Not surprised they pulled the stream tonight, the comments would have been a mess. Feels like the whole game is going "off the rails". And now extra work, to make up for the previous work that wasn't done properly.
     
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  9. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    Come on, the postponement of a relatively minor set of updates for a day or two is hardly a disaster. Neither is the temporary and completely understandable hold on the celebratory stream a catastrophe. Some people are really overreacting. The world has bigger fish to fry right now.
     
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  10. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    Over reactions on the DTG forums? That never happens.
     
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  11. Yerolo

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    Not limited to DTG forums. Overreacting is a phenomenon of social networking / the internet in general
     
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  12. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    It's amazing that when something goes wrong with the train painting app, it's all hands to the pump. Wish that urgency were applied to some of the important issues in the game. :)
     
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  13. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    In fairness if you have spent hours creating your custom liveries, I can imagine the thought of them all being wiped is more than a trivial matter.
     
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  14. antony.henley

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    Well as a PS5 user it automatically updated and I played a few hours until the problem was known well indeed past whe the problem was known. I lost all the liveries that I have made on my PS5. Which is a bummer, but I managed to download my save game from Tuesday night off the PSN. So I have those liveries back and have dropped down two AP levels oh well. But I will not be playing or streaming TSW untill they sort this problem out. and that also means downloading the Harlem line as well (all though it will be on the PS4 version of the game, and there I have crap loads of liveries).
     
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  15. JealousSheep768

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    Is this just on next gen, from what I've heard ps4 is fine and just loaded it up on my Xbox and all my custom liveries are still there? These are the ones i made myself.
     
  16. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    Of course you're right, and the emoji was meant to show that I'm not totally serious. Still, I do sometimes think that more attention is paid to those aspects of the game I personally value less than actual simulation features.

    But, if creating colorful liveries is important to you, then you have my deep and heartfelt sympathy. I hope all your liveries are returned to you promptly. ;)
     
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  17. solicitr

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    Of society in general.
     
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  18. a.paice

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    I only really use livery designer and scenario planner to be fair.

    I’ve only started using timetable mode recently on the rush hour routes where the ai is a bit more numerous and I rarely play the scenarios unless they have something interesting happening in them.
     
  19. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Well, for me, anyway, having the correct assortment of liveries (or a plausible imitation) on a route IS part of the simulation aspect. NO real-life freight train in America runs with nothing but CSX or Union Pacific branded cars; having a realistic potpourri, via LD and CC, is IMO very much part of simulation.
     
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  20. Pipe

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    Whomever came up with that "SOCIAL" term should be hit by a cement train.
     
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  21. goochdog#5870

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    Another PS5 user here . I played it for an hour this afternoon after it was automatically updated . I did notice that while playing Londoner n Commuter a lot of the trains had two or three different liveries on the same train . I assume that is because of this update and not a problem before ?
     
  22. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    I’m more disappointed the streams been pulled. Please don’t subject us to another hour long apology stream, there’s no value in them as they’re becoming more consistent than actual successful releases :|

    Respectfully, what the hell is going on lately? This is frustratingly comedic now. I think we’re one more faux pas away from a community related fix this please checklist being created and 400 players offering to do QA for free to just get things back on track. I dread to think what internal pressures you guys are under as externally heads have been under water, in the red , behind the curve that long we’d have drowned twice over.

    This current state is such a shame .


    I crave a release that works on all 50 platforms, doesn’t impact saves, no red signal blockers, no crashes, decent fps and scenery etc etc. Please make sure steam is TSW redeeming feature this year
     
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  23. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Well, I don't think it's overreacting to observe that DTG ought to be ashamed and embarrassed over this fiasco, and its knocking off the planned 5th Anniversary party simply needed punctuation.

    This is a teachable moment, or should be one. Somebody - I don't know Whobody, but Somebody - needs to go tearing through the QA department like Jesus through the moneychangers, overturned tables, whip and all. That department for far too long has been both a bottleneck for releases as well as an absolute sieve where it comes to bugs. But this? People, you had ONE JOB- to ensure that a little update - not a route, not a core overhaul, an itty-bitty patch - didn't break anything. You didn't have to do the original programming, and you didn't have to fix it, all you had to do was bloody notice it!!!!

    Meeting at 2 o'clock. No tea, no biscuits, but we'll leave a bottle of vodka and a revolver on the desk.
     
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  24. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, QA really need there derrière handing to them with a handful of performance management plans and bi weekly manager reviews.
     
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  25. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    Did whatever on this update which broke custom liveries go through QA prior to CC being released and then no one thought to double check if it conflicted with anything of the changes find myself asking.
    Is this perhaps a direct cause of the PAC bottle neck?
     
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  26. solicitr

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    Not likely, because it included a patch to CC
     
  27. matinakbary

    matinakbary Well-Known Member

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    So playing on Steam is safe, right?
     
  28. Dinosbacsi

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    Should be, yes.
     
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  29. WonterRail

    WonterRail Well-Known Member

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    So the patch has just dropped on steam. Not gonna touch the game just yet until the all clear is given that we can safely join the game again.
     
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  30. speedy2972

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    It's safe on all platforms to play the game, however if you have custom made liveries, somehow these are either unreachable but not deleted or unreachable because they have been deleted, and they're trying to figure out what happened and why, that's what I understand from what Natalie said. People it's not the end of the world, you can still enjoy the game, let them get on with it.
    Personally I don't think it'll affect the release tomorrow, they could do a WCL and take it down after its gone on sale. They would've said something by now the update was released 10 hours ago.
     
  31. Stephen Crofts

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    Looks like I’ll have to start disabling auto updates on the PlayStation again.
     
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  32. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    4.4GB download for an update? What are they installing? Every custom livery uploaded to CC?

    upload_2022-3-16_22-53-3.png

    Edit - just realised it had redownloaded Bakerloo which must have accounted for most of the download. Deleted again (I do with that there was an official way to uninstall core routes)
     
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  33. tallboy7648

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    I can already picture the uproar if Spirit Of Steam is a mess
     
  34. Michael Newbury

    Michael Newbury Well-Known Member

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    I got home and see mine is now downloading and updating slowly.
     
  35. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

    PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix Well-Known Member

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    Is the new skybox mode added in this latest update just a few while ago cause there is just been an update on the steam game? Did anyone see the new skybox in any of the route mention by Nat? Is it safe to open and load the game on steam?
     
  36. redrev1917

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    It's recommended to back up your custom liveries but otherwise safe. See https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/custom-liveries-important-update.52890/ for the full advice.
     
  37. rat7_mobile

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    No update yet on Stream, at least here
     
  38. JBViper

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    I did the Steam update, launched the game, everything is ok; with the new skybox.
     
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  39. rat7_mobile

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    Where exactly does the Skybox train run, from the name I would guess USA, but maybe UK, for sure no in Canada
     
  40. MLP Derick

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    the new skybox is for all the routes that use the TSW2 clouds except for the preserved collection routes that haven't received there upadted yet these are the routes that will the new clouds Sand Patch Grade YES
    Rapid Transit YES
    West Somerset Railway YES
    Long Island Rail Road YES
    Main-Spessart Bahn YES
    London Bakerloo Line YES
    Schnellfahrstrecke Köln YES
    LGV Mediteranee YES
    Isle of Wight YES
    Hauptstrecke München-Augsburg YES
    Southeastern High Speed YES
    Arosa Line YES
    Clinchfield Railroad YES
    Hauptstrecke Hamburg-Lübeck YES
    Cane Creek Subdivision YES
    Scottish Commuter YES
    Boston Sprinter YES
    Nahverkehr Dresden YES
    London Commuter YES
    West Cornwall Local YES
    Sherman Hill YES
    Tharandter Rampe YES
     
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    Great Western Express NO
    Ruhr-Sieg Nord NO
    Tees Valley Line NO
    Peninsula Corridor NO
    Rhein-Ruhr Osten NO
    Northern Trans-Pennine NO
    East Coastway NO
    Oakville Subdivision NO
    Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr NO


    there's are the routes that will get the new clouds once there preservation crew updates are released
     
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  42. 5cip

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    so i guess i have to delete the sky mod which i had before ?
     
  43. nockwurst

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    Bold of you to assume they know what a QA checklist is.
     
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  44. rat7_mobile

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    How can any train run on all the trainset, most of them are even using the same tracks much less the security system, and now you would have people believe hat there is a train that not only can, but is actually run on all the trainset
     
  45. solicitr

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    "Skybox" is not a train. It's the background that provides the sky and clouds.
     
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  46. rat7_mobile

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    Why bother with the sky, this is a train driving simulation, the sky except the way it is already show the weather as nothing to do with it
    Now if it had been a flight simulator then it would have been important
     
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    Believe it or not...there are actually alot of ppl out there (inc myself) who enjoy a nice looking sky. When you are looking out the front window for 30mins+; a bad looking sky (how it was previously) is quite noticeable and jarring.

    You may not care but I can tell you many do...and it seems DTG did as well. londonmidland did a great job with his sky mod, it improved the overall look of the game...and now the console players can enjoy it as well.
     
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  48. tallboy7648

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    Yeh the new skybox is a massive improvement. The sky is an important part of the game in my opinion. Now if DTG can just add dynamic weather...
     
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  49. rat7_mobile

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    Now thjat would have been a great improvement, but the sky that could have been left out until more important update/upgrade are done
     
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  50. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    What a game changer finally london skybox is in, and it just make the route a little more enjoyable than before. So happy now just waiting for Dynamic Weather and Real Live time weather added to TSW 2.;):D:cool:
     
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