Route Wcml Preston To Carlisle - Feedback Thread

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  1. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    The longest I've driven is Lancaster to Oxenholme.

    2P88 is Lancaster to Windermere, which you drive as far as Oxenholme.
    08:53 start, it's in the 101 2-car options.
     
  2. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is, I apologise.

    I was getting it confused with a Barrow-Preston service you can drive.
     
  3. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    But there are jobs on th 101 timetable that go preston to carlisle. But you cant actually drive the whole length witch I cant understand why not.
     
  4. Strat-tastic

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    I believe they take a different route, heading off at Carnforth.
     
  5. Phil47569

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    There was/is supposed to be an ECS from Oxenholme to Preston which was mentioned in one of the livestreams for the route before it was launched though it was mentioned offhand by the lad doing the stream and didn't give a specific working or timing.

    As for the Preston to Carlisle services which only go to/from Carnforth - that's because those services go around the coast and not along the WCML so they are there for partway :)
     
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  6. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all the info much appreciated everyone have great day.
     
  7. OldVern

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    Furness !ine to Barrow, then Cumbrian Coast via Sellafield, Workington and Maryport.
     
  8. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone else had the issue where you choose to drive a Pacer on a timetable service and when you spawn into the game, you're in a 101?
    It's happened to me. Service 5P88, Carlisle to Kingmoor Depot ECS.
     
  9. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Anyone done carlisle trip work (0T57). Tells you to couple to formation but there is nothing there to couple to.. Also confused now why is that only certain jobs are available with certain class 47s.
     
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  10. thomastl59374

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    On 1011 Glasgow Central to Poole starting at 11:29,

    I'm always restricted to 100mph. Whenever the line speed goes above 100, the speed limit on the hub stays at 100.

    Non of the coaches were limited to 100 so not sure why I couldn't go above 100. There were 10 coaches including one MK1 brake van (limited to 110)

    I've not played the route in a while so unsure if this is prototypical.
     
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  11. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    It's a Cross Country service so you'll have Mark 2 Carriages, they were limited to 100mph.
     
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  12. thomastl59374

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    All the coaches except the MK1 brake van were mk 3s.
     
  13. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    I've just loaded that service up and it's Mk2a and MK1 BG coaches. This is because timetable mode randomly generates the consist.

    As it was a cross-country service it's limited to (and timed at) 100mph.

    When the 86/2 is released (top speed 100), it will be substituted into this service, along with the Mk2f coaches.

    If you want to do an 87 service that was 110 mph, select those passenger services from Glasgow Central to London Euston (and vice versa).
     
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  14. marcsharp2

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    Just fired it up, those are MK2s 54917708-e9c8-4ef0-98ab-a0cc8c9b2e0a.jpeg
     
  15. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    The only 110mph services are those between London and Glasgow.
     
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  16. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    Another thing to remember as well is that if your train has a mix of Mark 2 and Mark 3 carriages, you're still only restricted to 100mph as your maximum speed is the maximum speed of the slowest carriage/wagon/Loco in your consist.
     
  17. thomastl59374

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    I'll try again because I definitely had mark 3s. I play on Xbox one so it might be different due to the changes made for memory restrictions
     
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  18. marcsharp2

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    Is it possible you played a different service and got the two mixed up?

    Unless the game is adding them to random Cross Country services as there are some with combined Mark 2 and Mark 3 carriages
     
  19. thomastl59374

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    Just loaded up the exact same service and there was not a single MK2 in sight.

    I reckon it must be part of the gen 8 restrictions. So I only get services with second class be blue mk3s and a MK1 brake van.
     
  20. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    Then as previously mentioned, run a Euston-Glasgow (or vice versa) service if you want 110mph services.
     
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  21. marcsharp2

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    Ahh you're Gen 8. Sorry didn't realise.
     
  22. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Why does this route always default to 5 june 86. I know its set in that year but why always 5 june and not current date.
     
  23. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    It happened after a patch was released. They are aware of it.
     
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  24. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks mate.
     
  25. FifeFlyer75

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    Has something been patched on this route recently ?
    Never had a problem with it on Series X, and since moving to PS5 it's been absolutely perfect too. However, that's twice now in 2 nights the game has crashed on me mid route. First time was just north of Oxenholme, and tonight it crashed about 3 miles outside Carnforth.

    Game just freezes, then goes to the screen to report the error to Sony (for all the attention they'll pay !).

    Never really wanted to consider the option of saving the game every 5 or 10 minutes - as, let's be honest, you really shouldn't have to. However, might have no option if this is going to be a regular occurrence.

    Patience is really wearing very thin with TSW right now.
     
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  26. richtayls

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    Every error report you submit to Sony gets forwarded to the dev, so definitely worth submitting.
     
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  27. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I play on xbox x i have no crashes yet touch wood. But since the last update for this route its stuttering and freezing. And a lot of starting jobs in random places and in the train.
     
  28. FifeFlyer75

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    Thought I was just as well to submit them so did so with the relevant video clips.

    Deleted all my content from the creation hub so I know it's not that. And both times it crashed it was the first game after switching console on, and still less than 2/3 of the hard drive is full. All very odd, but equally frustrating :(
     
  29. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any liveries from Content Creators club that would appear on the route? Say for example a 47 or 87 in a CC livery as I've heard that can cause crashes when the game tries to spawn them in.
     
  30. FifeFlyer75

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    I previously only had a handful of liveries downloaded (Northern 142, Scotrail InterCity and a Northern 170) but deleted all of them so the only liveries in the game are the ones that should be there.

    Will give it another spin tomorrow, and if happens again I might just try uninstalling the game and installing again from scratch. Been my favourite route since it came out, so hoping it's something that either fixes itself or can be fixed.
     
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  31. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Wish they would add more passenger services using class 47.
     
  32. DominusEdwardius

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    Doubtful there is any they actually did run on considering why would you use a loco that has less than half the power of the electrics and so is considerably slower. There really isn't any reason for BR to run the 47!
     
  33. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Good point i just enjoy driving them. Also there are at 5 different varieties of the 47 do all share the same timetable do you know.
     
  34. OldVern

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    For the challenge but as noted previously, BR made a point of minimising diesel locomotives haulage under the wires. Even if short of 86 or 87 power you would get a tatty 81 or 85 on the front of the train before a diesel was considered, even for freight. Not to mention traincrew traction knowledge, particularly further south. A West Coast Express rocking up at Preston or Crewe with a 47 and a London crew relieving it would shake their heads and say, “Don’t sign those mate.”
     
  35. Phil47569

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    You're pretty much right on the nail there Vern but don't forget, 47s were the "standard traction" that everyone signed, well not sure how that worked with sparky only depots mind so maybe your point still stands.
     
  36. solicitr

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    Where? I've been all over that guard compartment and can't find any interactables but the brake valves/wheel and the passenger lighting switch
     
  37. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone managed to do the stonescrather rail tour i can only do the parts 1 and 2 everything else just get dumped along the route some where.
     
  38. solicitr

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    Figured it out- that train has two BG vans and only the second is an NHA.
     
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    But a new problem: turned the system on in the guard compartment, but I can't activate the announcements! The G key does nothing, and there's no phone in an 87.
     

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