Wcml Preston To Crewe Discussion

Oh-kay with regard to the discussion/debate over Class 47 differences and variants getting a little heated, can I just redirect folks to the wonderful but now sadly gone Class 47 website (still works via the wayback machine) https://web.archive.org/web/20191026172537/https://www.class47.co.uk/

As for 58s, well I just stumbled upon a photo of what turned out to be a regular 58 working from the Midlands up to Garston Docks with coal for export, this image is taken in 1989 and just look at the traffic in the yard https://flic.kr/p/29HQdFr

Also for equality sake here is a 56 doing the same in 1987 - https://flic.kr/p/2oeS7dP

Sadly though Garston isn't included, or if it is then JT have kept it under wraps along with the route map...

Yes I agree, from both sides too In theory this route being in the 0-3 month category should have dropped around October/November but here we are... Still, you can't rush art (to quote that old man in Toy Story 2).

I do think they are looking at "loco packs", the 86 was a good example of that, we got a new locomotive and some coaches as well as it layering into existing routes. Largely the feedback was positive so hopefully that inspires them to go out and do more

 

There's a long list of traction I'd like to see in new and existing routes. I've never felt that it's a case of developers being lazy that they're not in the game, more a decision to include the most common types that will be useful across several routes. Maybe there aren't enough 1980s/1990s northern freight routes in the pipeline so UK TSW locomotive development is going to be elsewhere for a while.

 

JT are pretty much our only hope. DTG seem to have given up UK route building let alone anything vintage diesel or electric. The other 3P's all seem fixated on post 2010 or in the case of Skyhook, have thrown the towel in.

 

I’m with you there on the 56. The game is crying out for one. One of my all time fave locos.

 

I prefer to think that DTG have gone quiet on UK route building because they're cooking something truly spectacular that'll be right up my street.

It's the hope that kills you.

 

Correct. Thomas. Out Tuesday.

 

Have they been involved in a full-scale project since GOBLIN? Maybe on the German side?