PC Wcmls Enhancement Pack | Update 10 Now Available

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  1. stubbsdonny86

    stubbsdonny86 Active Member

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    are you using the latest nvidia drivers and on 24h2 by any chance?
     
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    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    I have the latest driver (although a new one may have come out just before I came away a couple of days ago) and as far as I know Windows is on the latest version.

    Do you have other things open in the background (like discord for example) when playing the game?
     
  3. LimitedEdiition

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    They are probably CPU limited. I'm running it with a 3080 10GB and a 5800X3D, and I'm getting pretty good frames at 1440p. It definitely chugs a little when multiple 350s are around, but it was doing that in the base game likely due to some sort of memory leak. Running TSW with a gaming CPU with the 3D cache definitely helps in all of these simulation titles such as train sim and flight sims. Well worth the investment.
     
  4. stubbsdonny86

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    no i don't have it running in the background. unless i should turn HAGS off? task manager showed me 185 processes running. perhaps that could be an issue? i went back to 23h2 until 24h2 sorts itself out
     
  5. ididntdoit

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    This route it definitely one of the best on tsw now. It's got that busy commuter feel to it.
    The lighting between euston and Watford looks fantastic in the evenings.
    I gotta say dtg have done a fab job on the modelling and you guys have given it the finishing touches to bring it upto standards.
    The route is f'in brilliant :love:
     
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  6. Silvy

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    Noticed several of the 390 services run on slow lines, yeh! It makes for quite a bit more engaging run
     
  7. MaxBenchip

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    I've never enjoyed the game that much honestly ! 2967990_20241101150655_1.png
    Congratulations to anyone involved ! This EP is really amazing
     
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  8. iAspex

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    Train 5T08 unable to go past Bletchley as the train thinks it's off path Screenshot 2024-11-01 141923.png

    EDIT: Restarted it again and it still said it was off path but turned green
     
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  9. azzax333

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    To be honest I manifested that this was going to be an additional "core feature" to TSW5 as we've had announcements in the past on other routes with no problem, however they've leaving this out on some of the routes' that have been recently released. However DTG do need to work on these sort of features that need to be implemented into the game as a regular feature.

    & for TSW6 I don't really want to hear it as we're only just getting our first DLC shortly with the Boston Commuter & WCML Over-Shap
     
  10. Sharon E

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    I just played5T08 and had no issues with the pathing. Did experience a weird one, though with the way passengers behave in TSW not surprising. As I passed Cheddington at a nice 95 mph a passenger appeared right in front of me and, momentarily, was on the windshield before vanishing.
     
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  11. The SimTrain Tube

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    After seeing your post I turned Hags off to see if it makes any difference.
    If you recall my earlier posts some weeks ago about stuttering and not being able to record at 30/60fps while using LS?

    With Hags turned off I'm now able to get perfect 30/60 fps even at Euston. (With the occasional exception, which only seems to happen when a 390 passes by)
     
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    Does not installing the timetable mod cause anything specific to break?

    I’d rather not install it due to the conductor mode bug when starting from the menu.
     
  13. stubbsdonny86

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    oh yes i remember clearly.
    HAGS has been turned off and believe you me you ca see a difference. I still get an occasion stutter but it's smooth for the most part, even with san bernandio. i need to try more routes on it though to see if it really made a difference
     
  14. aroused by trains

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    Just running it now - not had a problem with it crashing at Queen's Park but I've just had a spurious TPWS demand briging me to a halt aligned with Wembley Sidings
     
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    O que seria esse HAGS para desabilitar?
    Desculpe pela minha falta de conhecimento...
     
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    This one? https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...-pack-available-now.85419/page-11#post-921655

    If so the workaround is to completely disable TPWS just before it (Temporary isolate doesn't seem to work iirc) and then re-enable it once across it. This is a DTG issue not anything to do with the Enhancement Pack apparently.
     
  17. JetWash

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    Yes it does, and the reasoning there not in install the TT is crazy in my opinion. It doesn’t bug the original timetable (and it isn’t really a bug anyway) so to not install something that is literally light years ahead of what came with the route is bordering on the nonsensical.
     
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  18. Sharon E

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    I am running with HAGS on but does not seem to degrade my performance with my new system.
     
  19. JetWash

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    FWIW I’ve turned HAGS and Windowed Optimisations off. They don’t need to be on for Lossless Scaling (the do for traditional hardware based Frame Gen) and TSW is definitely running smoother
     
  20. Siminzhou#2794

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    Faxw's WCML 2024 TT is a very high-quality product, and it makes WCMLS more busier and more realistic. However, I noticed that some 350 services in this TT require more AP to gain medal compared to default TT even that they have the same paths and traveling distances. As a result, some ECS services may become unable to get platinum medals, and here is an example.
    5Y32 Bletchley Carriage Sidings-Northampton
    Default TT Bronze 150 Sliver 300 Gold 450 Platinum 800

    Fawx's TT Bronze 450 Sliver 650 Gold 800 Platinum 1300

    In Fawx's 2024 TT, 5Y32 has one more objective, however it won't provide AP, and since the path and traveling distance remain unchange, the medal requirement score shouldn't be change.
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    It also happended on some 390 services like service 5S37 from Wembley Inter City Depot to London Euston.
    default TT Bronze 400 Sliver 700 Gold 1050 Platinum 1850

    Fawx's TT Bronze 900 Sliver 1250 Gold 1550 Platinum 2450
     

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  21. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    So that could be the reason I got a gold when I ran 5T08 yesterday.
     
  22. Silvy

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    Yep, I turned it off last night after reading this thread and it basically removed the really bad lag spikes I was having in high AI density areas. Absolutely, definitely one to keep off lol
     
  23. JetWash

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    This is my personal opinion (and not that of the other guys) but I can’t help thinking, slightly tongue-in-cheek, ‘so what?’

    Does it really matter? In my opinion it doesn’t.
     
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  24. Sharon E

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    JetWash, to me, reading this thread on HAGS, it seems to depend on what specs your computer has, As noted, mine is on but really don't see any great issues in game. Kinda like loss scaling, I do not see any benefit to my system of installing it.
     
  25. Silvy

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    Definitely seems like a YMMV scenario yeh
     
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  26. JetWash

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    I’d agree with that. HAGS always caused issues (like stuttering) but was a requirement to use proper frame generation, and with the frame gen mod for RTX cards that was made for FS2020 it was also needed. IIRC you’re on a 4090 so it’s no surprise you have no problems, if HAGS doesn’t work with that card it would work with nothing at all! :)
     
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  27. aroused by trains

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    I couldn't tell you what "level" I am or what "points" I have or anything like that. They don't do anything so not sure what they're for.
     
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  28. Fawx

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    The score thresholds are all auto generated in the editor, so not sure why it would require more.
     
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  29. Siminzhou#2794

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    Thanks for your reply, I think it might be an editor issue.
     
  30. bescot

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    I've made several requests for a RD user to test RD support to no avail. Anyone? Please DM me bescot on Discord
     
  31. Sharon E

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    bescot, sorry, I am on Discord but have never dm anyone so have no idea how to reach you. PMed you on here.
    Maybe I have found you.
     
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  32. ludwigtails

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    So just now i tried to play WCML with EPs on but now it caused this.
    I have the goblin installed is something wrong with the game's end or mods?
    Screenshot 2024-11-03 212534.png

    Edit: somebody told me that its the known free roam problem
     
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  33. ludwigtails

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    will an upcoming update for the EP add the 805's TOPs number? As seems to be missing.
    upload_2024-11-4_14-29-7.png
    And how come we dont have the carriage with the buffet on the consist?
     
  34. JetWash

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    Answer to your first question, don’t know but don’t count on it.

    Answer to your second question, it’s not payware. I think your expectations are a long way out of whack with reality.
     
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  35. ludwigtails

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    There was something I kinda got figured out as to why the 805 model didnt have the buffet after I asked this. Its much understandable and I hope I didn't offend or anything.
     
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  36. ludwigtails

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    And question, am i missing something that the NMT is missing a couple 3D parts?
    Screenshot 2024-11-04 212620.png
     
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    Been answered a number of times. Your in-game settings are too low and you need to up the effects quality for it to show.
     
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    ah i see.
    And as for the thing i figured for the 805. Did the 805 directly use the 5 car 801 model and did a retexture?
     
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    I’m genuinely intrigued as to what else you thought it was?
     
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    Update 5 is now released with a number of changes listed below. I’ve also made this video to show the changes and the next iteration of the timetable where all DC line services (710 and Underground stock) are in. There are times here you have to take a second and remember this is a sim because it does, on occasion, look photo-realistic. The timetable is amazing, hopefully you’ll have it before too long.

    WCMLS EP & TT | Update 5 Release & Timetable Update Preview


    Update notes for Update 5 | November 5th 2024

    • Added Rail Driver support to all supplied trains
    • Added significant amount of custom created (from freeware sources) graffiti. This is included and no further DLC is required
    • Refined foliage in several places across the DC line
    • Added some extra clutter in a few places
    • Added textures from previous EP’s for container stacks, HGV’s, grit bins and commercial bins
    • Tweaked a couple of environmental light positions
    • Adjusted Billboards to reduce the same one appearing multiple times
    • Renamed and sorted trains in menus
    • Corrected the red anti-collision lights on the cranes as they rotate every time DTG update the route

    Class 377/7

    • Customised models to remove the GX luggage racks and replaced them with sideways-facing seats
    • Fixed the coach side numbering so it is 100% accurate to the /7. Cab numbering is now correct too
    • Speedometer now has the red line at 100mph instead of 110mph
    • Fixed weather effects not showing correctly on the main part of the exterior
    • Fixed a visual gap on the interior First Class doors and made the First Class window stickers visible on the interior
    • Added red stripes to the rear doors of the PTS coach and moved the wheelchair sticker onto the doors closest to the wheelchair area, as per reality
     
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  41. ludwigtails

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    At first (at least before I have ever downloaded the mod) i thought that the mod have somehow manage to do some model modification to the 801 model to somehow mostly replicate what the 805 is. Which is the case expect what i completely forgot was that the 5 car Class 801 was incorrectly depicted in game. As the second coach (or coach B) on the 5 car 801 and also on 805s that they supposely have a buffet carriage at the end of coach B, which in the game it wasn't case. And for some unknown reason I thought the buffet was correctly modified in by changing the 2nd carriage.
     
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    Is it OK to copy new version over previous one? I mean file names still the same nothing was removed/renamed?
     
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    Overwriting the existing files are fine yes. They all have the same names.
     
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    Absolutely, just extract and overwrite. All the file names are the same with the addition of a Part 4
     
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    That video was very enjoyable to watch. Just goes to show the difference a good timetable makes to a route and having the correct AI traffic. It makes it much more believable as a sim.
     
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    Incredible work, the only other thing we could do with is better speed signs for UK mainline routes, but I know that's something that can't be altered easily (yet).
    The new ATS route has some realistic looking ones by the looks of it, hopefully all new UK routes will benefit.
     
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  47. Sharon E

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    Just completed a 350 run, 2K20, which is a wrapped 350. Runs fine now using the RD, via CobraOnes' interface, Getting great fps the entire run including Watford Junction and Euston. Question for Fawx, I do not see a updated tt beyond the one from the end of October.
    As I have noted before, running a fairly new high end machine with 4090 video card.
     
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    As I said, the updated TT is not out yet.
     
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    JetWash, sorry missed that in the post.
     
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    Great work, I've experienced the pack for the first time today prior to today's update and it is really fantastic.

    It's good to see that a large amount of custom stickers/models etc can be added to trains in a similar way to how TSC supports it - I'm very interested in learning how this is achieved and what limitations there are to what can be done and if there are any advantages over the TSC methods.
     

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