Wcmls Major Update (december 2024)

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  1. Bryer

    Bryer Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure Gospel Oak can only fit a 4 car unit.
     
  2. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    These are the 12 car 350 services:
    2N04
    2K05
    2K06
    2T23
    2T24
    2K23
    2K24
    2T41
    2T42
    2K41
    2K42
    2T65
    2T66
    2K59
    2K60
    2N71


    Without looking into all the specifics - because id be here all night, there are 5 x 4 car sets running, and 18 x 8 car sets running.

    Couple of random 8 cars:
    2T16 (Formation 9)
    2K15 (Formation 13)
    2K40 (Formation 16)

    Matt.
     
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  3. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Looks like some of the Class 350 services are unhooked - 1Y27 is there but unhooked.

    The others I spot checked weren't found.

    So - no, those do not seem to be present.

    Matt.
     
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  4. gwrphil811

    gwrphil811 Active Member

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    Thank you for all the updates.
     
  5. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I thought there was more than
     
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  7. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    PS5 doesnt seem to have had the update SubwayRailfanner - we're looking into it.

    Matt.
     
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    Yeah, can confirm this - I updated my game earlier - 5 updates present I think, and 1 ps5 update. Can’t remember the listed items, but none were WCMLS. There was a 390 update file though
     
  9. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Hey folks - just on PS5. We'll take a check in the morning where things are at, and if we need to repush the update, we will.

    Thanks for bearing with us, and for DTG Liam and DTG Matt for answering everyone's questions.
     
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  10. jon arbuckle

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    Any light on this? Problem occurs even with all respective mods inactive.

    On another note: I can’t get the 350 moving when using fawx timetable, having the latest EP installed. When applying power after the normal setup, the train simple won’t move an even starts rolling backwards. Using the normal new TT, the start is sluggish(er than in the past) but I have movement unlike using any service of the community TT.
     
  11. FredElliott

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    Evening JD, my PS5 did get an upate for WCMLS, the version number being 1.010.000, so unfortunately it looks like it is more than a simple re-push required (the new service count matches those reported earlier)

    The additional updates my PS5 got as well as WCMLS were ECML, Frankfulda, Antelope,Boston, and the core v1.006.000
     
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    total dedication tonight which i would never be able to do. thank you for all the info and assistance
     
  13. parder#4923

    parder#4923 Well-Known Member

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    I think the PS5 version is going to need to be re-checked and re-pushed. The WCML update file was only 41mb which I can't imagine covers the full range of changes listed.
     
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    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    We've also noted this to review with the team tomorrow.

    Re it not moving - check to see if the pantograph is defaulting to down, and if so, raise the pantograph and see if that helps.

    Matt.
     
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  15. d.heal

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    Let's see if it decides to turn up overnight on ps5
     
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    Just reading through the literal 2-3 pages of posts that have appeared over the past couple of hours, thank you so much Matt, Liam and everyone behind the scenes. This probably didn’t go as smoothly as intended, but the diligence and level of communication has been awesome to watch.
     
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    Received my update on PS5 and I don't think anything about the timetable has changed at all. Everything is exactly the same as it was previously.

    Hope it's fixed soon as I was really looking forward to extra 390 and 710 services. Appreciate Matt and Liam working quite late to try and keep on top of things though.

    DTG really need to look at how they handle these major updates though. This isn't the first time they've majorly screwed up an update and it unfortunately likely won't be the last.
     
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    Have had a quick drive from Euston just to Harrow so far but the change it atmosphere is noticeable. The route seems much more busy with plenty of underground and overground services on the DC lines. I like the variety of unit lengths.

    The route feels far more polished too.

    I had a ride on a 72 stock from Harrow to Wembley Central which was very immersive and hung around Wembley for a while. Saw some freight action as well as several different units passing through.

    Thanks to all both at DTG (especially Liam and Matt for answering questions) and the community who have made this update possible. I hope those whom are having trouble receiving the update get it soon.

    This update looks to have transformed the route and it seems there may be more to come. I am not so invested in modern routes generally as older period routes but this is a modern route which feels alive and has variety.
     
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    PC users: How does this compare to Fawx's WCMLS TT Mod from the EP ? I havent been home to test the new update, but just curious
     
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    Is anybody else finding it impossible to get to Euston on Xbox? I’ve tried with the 390 & 800 and the game just completely crashes because of memory. I can leave Euston, but not the other way around.
     
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    Fawx's has more passenger services but their timetable is without freight at the moment. It's also got the added bonus of the 805, HST and other 377 class types.
     
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    Thank you, much appreciated!

    I’ll check the pantograph next time, again thank you for the input. This wasn’t something I was even considering since the pantograph was always raised when starting a service prior to the update.
     
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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Why have the freight jobs got shorter in length they where 21 long now most are 11 long and what happened to shunting jobs also a round on the pendolino it felt really slow when going 125mph that might just be my old eyes though
     
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  24. subwayg0at

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    This is my very first time seeing a 1972TS packed with passengers in this game - it was broken for years before
    TrainSimWorld.exe Screenshot 2024.12.11 - 14.03.38.39.jpg
     
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  25. OldVern

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    So far so good with a run on the DC Lines from Watford so far as Stonebridge. The massive FPS drop at Harrow seems to have been eliminated and yes the whole route is much busier.

    Thanks to all for pulling it around, albeit with the caveat should never have been released in such an unfinished state.

    Suspect still room for improvement as I’m guessing the rather oddly crafted tunnels with rapidly repeating wall textures etc. haven’t been looked at and some of the bridges still look like what we would have done on a model railway with Superquick brick paper!
     
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  26. Gianluca

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    No other layers on PS4 on WCML (72 stock, class 66 and 377/4) is that normal?
     
  27. 14trainfan2029

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    Yes because xbox one and ps4 are 8th gen. And because of their age, they have an extremely limited timetable.
     
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    The only 2 trains on the route for ps4 and xbox one are the 350 and the 390
     
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    72 stock and class 377/2 aren’t layers and come with the WCMLs and I’m pretty sure their inclusion was retracted last minute due to memory issues with 8th gen etc. So I’d assume this is normal.
     
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    Also as a quite previously 8th gen user myself I’d start thinking about upgrading to a new pc or 9th gen console as I’d expect many of the future timetables to be extremely limited on 8th gen.
     
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  31. dal#7945

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    On the 350 anyone else noticed but the brakes seem really weak now and acceleration seems really slow or is just me. Example going 75mph put brakes on notch 10 1 mile from station and still missed by 222yds what have they done this route and trains just got worse not better.
     
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    No they don’t. You just need to update the EP from TSC. Fawx’s TT is fine.
     
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    Just to be clear because people keep
    Mentioning that they are waiting for the update on PS5. The updates came through yesterday for WCML South etc but nothing changed. Pushing the update again isn’t going to fix anything. It was clearly the wrong files
     
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    There was also an update for ECML with the wiper fix which has worked so the files for that update were correct.
     
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    That's what re pushing means, they are re uploading the files, somehow some of the update went for a walk
     
  36. parder#4923

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    Apparently for WCML there should be two update files. The 41mb file that most users got was just preparations for the gameplay pack. The bigger update file that hasn't arrived for PS5 and has all the other enhancements should be around 1gb in size.
     
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  37. dal#7945

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    I'm on xbox x so I know it will be a little different but I got no 41mb update and just one 4.5gb update
     
  38. Gianluca

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    PS5 is better for ps4 players, i've readed that progress will lost but the entire collection will came on PS5 when upgrading
     
  39. d.heal

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    Can confirm the timetable hasn't come through on ps5 just checked 2T42 Tring to London Euston wich is down to be a 12 car service but its only a 4 car service in timetable on ps5.
     
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    The physics of the 350 has been redone from scratch
     
  41. Bryer

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    They were only supposed to be adding suspension. Shouldn't have altered the acceleration and the braking but it has. I'm getting GWR HST simugraph vibes all over again...
     
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    They seem really slow at pulling away and braking is so slow now
     
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    Go on vern give it a bit of love.... you know you want to :)
     
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  44. neddyie116

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    Still no update on PS5?
     
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    I did Tony, currently doing a run on the DC Line which I’ll finish later. Then maybe take a Pendie or 350 down to MKC.
     
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    Unfortunately sending a PS update is not instant, the only platform that makes it relatively easy to send out an update/patch instantaneously is Steam for PC. DTG will have to submit the update to PS/XBOX etc and wait on validation before it goes live.
     
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    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Update for the PS5 should be coming along at some point today, I think the team have identified the issue and are resolving.

    The 350 had a full simulation update (I have said this previously) as it wasn't as accurate as we'd have liked when it was released, and adding suspension (which links quite a lot with the air system) meant some changes were mandatory. That said, there are some further changes, particularly to braking, which are coming in a following update.

    Matt.
     
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    Thanks matt for the update on the update for ps5.
    Keep up the work
     
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    That's great because its a great train apert from the braking witch is now terrible
     
  50. Bryer

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    Clearly you never drove the original release of the TEA's with a Class 66. Brakes... What brakes?
     
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