Hello, I'm TrainGeek08, probably one of the best suggestion makers on these forums and today I'm suggesting a much needed route in TSW3 now as ECW & BML are a thing and please note, this wouldn't happen in a while for all the non-Electrostar fanboys Drive along the coast between an iconic city in both real life and in TSW in Brighton to a new area in TSW which hasn't seen a TSW route yet in Portsmouth in Train Sim World 3: West Coastway Line: Brighton-Portsmouth Harbour Stock included in base route: (layers) The British Rail Class 313 'PEP' EMU And the (either loved or boring train in TSW, depends on your viewpoint on ECW and BML) British Rail Class 377 'Electrostar' EMU Training (In Training Center) Same as BML & ECW Introductions Scenarios: Hove Return: (Difficulty - 1) Drive a 313 on the Hove Shuttle between Brighton and you guessed it, Hove and back to Brighton Coasthing: (Difficulty - 2) Drive a 377 from West Worthing along the coast to Brighton calling at all stations Havant Engineered (Difficulty - 4) Drive a 313 from Portsmouth Harbour to Havant as Network Rail are working on the line towards Littlehampton Bright in Bognor: (Difficulty - 2) Drive a 377 from Brighton to Bognor Regis on a semi-fast service on a cloudy day in the summer Timetable: Same timetables as BML & ECW to enable layers at Brighton Potential DLC, Other Layers and Stations coming up on Pages 2-5...
Page 2: Potential DLC: The British Rail Class 700 'Desiro City' EMU for summer Littlehampton services Training (In Training Center): Class 700 Introduction Scenarios: Brighton Divert: (Difficulty - 2) Drive a 700 from Littlehampton to Brighton on a diverted service due to the BML being shut Desiro Stopper: (Difficulty - 3) Southern's 377s have been pulled out of service due to technical reasons so Thameslink have been called in to replace them on West Coastway services, drive a 700 from Brighton to Portsmouth Harbour Summer Special: (Difficulty - 1) Drive a 700 semi-fast service from Bognor Regis to Brighton with a reversal at Littlehampton Layers: The British Rail Class 66 with RHTT or the British Rail Class 73 with RHTT (latter if made prior to this DLC being made) The British Rail Class 166 'Networker Turbo' DMU for GWR services on the WCL and for Portsmouth-Cardiff services around Portsmouth Stations: Brighton railway station is the southern terminus of the Brighton Main Line in England, and the principal station serving the city of Brighton, East Sussex. It is 50 miles 49 chains (50.61 miles, 81.45 km) from London Bridge via Redhill. The station is managed by Govia Thameslink Railway, which operates all of the services. It was built by the London & Brighton Railway in 1840–41, initially only connecting Brighton to Shoreham-by-Sea, westwards along the coast, in May 1840. It finally connected a year later inland to Haywards Heath and London Bridge in September 1841 via the just-completed Clayton Tunnel; and then in 1846 to the county town of Lewes to the east via the London Road Viaduct. The railway became the London, Brighton & South Coast Railway in 1846 following mergers with other railways with lines between Portsmouth and Hastings. With over 17 million passenger entries and exits in 2018/19, Brighton is the seventh-busiest station in the country outside London. Hove: Hove railway station serves Hove in the county of East Sussex, England. It is 50 miles 56 chains (81.6 km) measured from London Victoria. The station and the majority of trains serving it are operated by Southern. Gatwick Express trains stable at Hove from time to time. It is the closest railway station to the County Cricket Ground, Hove where Sussex CCC play matches. Aldrington: Aldrington railway station, sometimes known by its former names of Aldrington Halt and LOVE Junction, is a railway station that serves the area of Aldrington in Hove, in East Sussex, England. The station is 1 mile 74 chains (3.1 km) from Brighton on the West Coastway Line. Portslade: Portslade railway station (in full, Portslade & West Hove station) is a railway station serving the town of Portslade-by-Sea in East Sussex, England, but located on the western fringes of the village of Aldrington (a part commonly known as 'West Hove'). It is 2 miles 73 chains (4.7 km) down the line from Brighton. Fishersgate: Fishersgate railway station is a railway station in West Sussex, England, serving both the eastern part of Southwick, as well as the western part of Portslade in Brighton and Hove. The station is operated by Southern and is 3 miles 47 chains (5.8 km) down the line from Brighton. Southwick: Southwick railway station serves the town of Southwick in West Sussex, England. It is on the West Coastway Line, 4 miles 30 chains (7.0 km) from Brighton. It is operated by Southern. Its platforms are long enough for eight-coach trains. Shoreham-by-Sea: Shoreham-by-Sea railway station serves the town of Shoreham-by-Sea in the county of West Sussex, and also serves the nearby Shoreham Airport. The station and the majority of trains serving it are operated by Govia Thameslink Railway, primarily under its Southern brand, but also as Thameslink. It is 5 miles 69 chains (9.4 km) down the line from Brighton. Both platforms can handle trains with up to 12 coaches. Lancing: Lancing railway station is in Lancing in the county of West Sussex, England. It is 8 miles 19 chains (13.3 km) down the line from Brighton. The station is operated by Southern. Platform 1 is for trains to Brighton and London Victoria, and Platform 2 is for trains to Worthing, Portsmouth Harbour and Southampton. The station has 1 ticket office located on Platform 2, and 3 self-service ticket machines, two on Platform 1 and one outside the front of the main station building adjoining Platform 2. There are ticket barriers at this station, in operation from 6 am until midnight every day. Additional ticket checks are carried out at the exits from the platforms, by Southern Railway staff and Rail Neighbourhood Officers. East Worthing: East Worthing railway station is an unstaffed railway station in Worthing in the county of West Sussex. It is 9 miles 55 chains (15.6 km) down the line from Brighton. The station is operated by Southern. Built to serve the growing settlement at East Worthing, the station was opened in 1905 as Ham Bridge Halt, taking the name of the road bridge at the eastern end. The station has ticket issuing facilities through one Shere FASTticket self-service ticket machine on the eastbound platform. A Permit to travel machine is on the westbound platform. The station has one glass and metal shelter on each platform. In the early 1990s a small wooden ticket office building on the eastbound platform was demolished. The platforms can only accommodate 4-coach trains. Until 2014 they were 2.25 m (7 ft 5 in) wide, preventing the use of access ramps for disabled passengers; but in January of that year work began to widen them to 3.75 m (12.3 ft) Worthing-Ford (inc. Littlehampton) on Page 3...
Page 3: Worthing: Worthing railway station is the largest of the five stations serving the town of Worthing in West Sussex (The other stations being East Worthing, West Worthing, Durrington-on-Sea and Goring-by-Sea). It is 10 miles 46 chains (17.0 km) down the line from Brighton. The station is managed by Govia Thameslink Railway who operate all the services. It is one of the main stations on the West Coastway Line; all timetabled trains stop here. At times in its history the station had been named Worthing Central. This name is sometimes incorrectly still used, either out of habit or intentionally to distinguish it from West Worthing and East Worthing stations. Worthing is the only station in DfT category C that has not been given a subcategory; it is listed by the Department for Transport as simply "C", while all other stations in this group have been divided into C1 and C2. West Worthing: West Worthing railway station is in Worthing in the county of West Sussex, England. It is 11 miles 30 chains (18.3 km) down the line from Brighton. The station is operated by Southern. Immediately west of the station, there is a stabling point and a series of sidings. Two trains terminate here every hour on a normal weekday timetabled service running to and from Brighton. Durrington-on-Sea: Durrington-on-Sea railway station is in Goring, a suburb of Worthing in the county of West Sussex. It is 12 miles 13 chains (19.6 km) down the line from Brighton. The station is operated by Southern. Durrington-on-Sea railway station lies about 1.3 miles (2.1 km) south of the Worthing suburb of Durrington and is situated close to the headquarters of West Sussex Primary Care NHS Trust and a large HM Revenue and Customs office. Goring-by-Sea: Goring-by-Sea railway station is in Goring by Sea in the county of West Sussex. It is 13 miles 7 chains (21.1 km) down the line from Brighton. The station is operated by Southern. It serves the Worthing suburb of Goring and the neighbouring village of Ferring. It is also located between two education facilities, thus providing a method of transport for students of St. Oscar Romero Catholic School and Northbrook College's West Durrington campus, also known as University Centre Worthing. This station has a ticket office which is open for part of the day. There is a self-serve ticket machine on either platform at the station. All Southern trains are served by Class 377's and Thameslink trains are served by Class 700's at this station. Angmering: Angmering is a railway station on the West Coastway Line, on the border of Angmering and East Preston in the district of Arun. It was opened in 1846. The station itself is situated about 0.6 miles (1 km) away from the centre of Angmering village, and is 15 miles 44 chains (25.0 km) down the line from Brighton. Buses depart for Angmering village hourly (Monday to Saturday off-peak), or walking to the village takes about 20 minutes. The station is located near the local secondary school The Angmering School, some of the students of which use the station daily to travel to and from school. Angmering station is also designed to be used by the residents of the nearby villages of Rustington and East Preston, with some of the station's signage actually reading 'Angmering for Rustington and East Preston'. Ford: Ford railway station is a railway station in Ford, West Sussex, England. It is located on the West Coastway Line which runs between Brighton and Southampton and it is 60 miles 48 chains (97.5 km) down the line from London Bridge via Redhill. The station and the trains serving it are operated by Southern. Littlehampton Branch: Littlehampton: Littlehampton railway station is in Littlehampton in the county of West Sussex, England. The station and the trains serving it are operated by Southern, and at peak times also by Thameslink. The station is a terminus at the end of a short branch off the West Coastway line. It currently has 4 platforms, two of which are of twelve carriage length, one of eight carriage length and one of seven carriage length. It is served by Class 313 and Class 377 "Electrostar" trains, and at peak times also by Class 700. Barnham-Havant (inc. Bognor Regis) on Page 4...
Page 4: Barnham: Barnham railway station is in Barnham, West Sussex, England around 5 miles (8.0 km) north of Bognor Regis. It is located on the West Coastway Line between Brighton and Southampton, 63 miles 22 chains (101.8 km) down the line from London Bridge via Redhill. The station and all services are operated by Southern which operate at the station using Classes 313 and 377s EMUs. Bognor Branch: Bognor Regis: Bognor Regis railway station is in the town of Bognor Regis, in the English county of West Sussex. It opened as the terminus of a short branch line in 1864, replacing a more distant station on the Worthing to Chichester main line. Like the town it served, it was known as Bognor until 1929. The junction on the main line is Barnham station, opened on the same day as the branch itself. With the developing leisure traffic travelling to the resort, the opportunity was taken to provide a lavish and commodious station in 1902. Electrification followed in 1937 as part of the Portsmouth No. 2 Electrification scheme of the Southern Railway, and a frequent service of trains from London was provided. Bognor Regis station is approximately 54 miles (87 km) southwest of London Victoria. The station is managed and serviced by Southern which is a Govia Thameslink Railway brand. The train service on the main line and the branch is known as the West Coastway Line. Chichester: Chichester railway station is a railway station in the city of Chichester in West Sussex, England. It is 28 miles 51 chains (28.64 miles, 46.09 km) from Brighton. The station is located on the Brighton to Portsmouth line of the LBSCR. Passenger services are operated under the brand name West Coastway Line which runs between Brighton and Southampton. The station and all passenger services are operated by Southern. Fishbourne: Fishbourne railway station serves the village of Fishbourne, West Sussex, England. It is 30 miles 12 chains (30.15 miles, 48.52 km) from Brighton. The London, Brighton and South Coast Railway (LB&SCR) opened the station at Fishbourne on 1 April 1906.It is located on the West Coastway Line that runs between Brighton and Southampton. The station is roughly half a mile walk from Fishbourne Roman Palace. Just east of this station at Fishbourne Crossing the single track veered off for the branch line between Chichester and Midhurst. Bosham: Bosham railway station serves the small village of Bosham in West Sussex, England. It is located on the West Coastway Line that runs between Brighton and Southampton, 31 miles 43 chains (31.54 miles, 50.75 km) from Brighton. Nutbourne: Nutbourne railway station serves the village of Nutbourne, near Chichester in West Sussex, England. It is located on the West Coastway Line that runs between Brighton and Southampton, 33 miles 14 chains (33.17 miles, 53.39 km) from Brighton. Southbourne: Southbourne railway station serves the village of Southbourne, West Sussex, England. It is on the West Coastway Line between Brighton and Southampton, 34 miles 16 chains (34.20 miles, 55.04 km) from Brighton. It was originally opened in 1906, when it was called Southbourne Halt. Emsworth: Emsworth railway station serves the small town of Emsworth, on the Hampshire side of the border between Hampshire and West Sussex, in southern England. It is located on the West Coastway Line which runs between Brighton and Southampton, 35 miles 50 chains (35.63 miles, 57.33 km) from Brighton. Warblington: Warblington railway station serves the Warblington and Denvilles suburbs of Havant in Hampshire. It is located on the West Coastway Line which runs between Brighton and Southampton, 36 miles 66 chains (36.83 miles, 59.26 km) from Brighton.[1] Situated opposite Warblington School, the station lies very close to a major road junction: the point at which the A259 coast road leaves the A27. Standing on the platform at the station entrance end it is possible to see the platforms of Havant railway station a short straight-line distance away. Havant: Havant railway station is a railway station in Havant, Hampshire, near Portsmouth, located on the Portsmouth Direct Line which runs between London Waterloo and Portsmouth Harbour. Havant is served by trains operated by Southern, who provide the most trains at the station, and South Western Railway who also provide frequent trains and manage the station. Havant is the nearest station to Hayling Island and also serves the nearby town of Waterlooville. Buses depart from the nearby bus station to both these places. Bedhampton-Portsmouth Harbour on Page 5...
Page 5... Bedhampton: Bedhampton railway station serves the former village of Bedhampton, now a suburb lying a mile west of the centre of Havant, in Hampshire, England. Hilsea: Hilsea railway station is a railway station on Airport Service Road, Hilsea, Portsmouth, England serving the northern end of Portsea Island, including a large industrial estate nearby. The station was once the closest to Portsmouth Airport, which was closed in 1973. It is located on the Portsmouth Direct line which runs between London Waterloo and Portsmouth Harbour. There were extensive sidings at Hilsea during World War II. This railway station is mainly used by commuters who work in nearby Anchorage Park industrial estate. Only stopping trains stop here. The station is unmanned. Historically, during the Battle of Havant, Hilsea was the terminus of an omnibus link from Havant New, just east of Havant. When the Portsmouth Direct Line had been constructed by the LSWR, at the request of the residents of Portsmouth, it was necessary that trains run from the Portcreek Junction railway triangle, to Havant Junction, along track owned by the rival LBSCR. The latter firm refused to allow that and engaged in militant obstruction of the track to prevent the running of a through train service for several months. The road that crosses over the railway line and station at Hilsea is named Norway Road after the novelist and aeronautical engineer, Nevil Shute Norway. Fratton: Fratton railway station is a railway station in the city of Portsmouth, on Portsea Island in the United Kingdom. It was opened in the Fratton area of Portsmouth on 1 July 1885 as an interchange station between the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway and the short-lived Southsea Railway branchline. Fratton railway station and the Southsea Railway were jointly opened on 1 July 1885 by Lady Ada Mary Willis, wife of General Sir George Willis, the Lieutenant Governor of Portsmouth. Portsmouth & Southsea: Portsmouth & Southsea railway station is a Grade II listed building and the main railway station in the Landport area of the city of Portsmouth in Hampshire, England. It is close to the Commercial Road shopping area. British Transport Police maintain a presence at the station. There is a taxi rank at the front of the building and regular local buses within five minutes' walking distance. The station, which is managed by South Western Railway, has ticket barriers in operation. Portsmouth Harbour: Portsmouth Harbour railway station is a railway station in Portsmouth, England. It is situated beside Gunwharf Quays in the city's harbour, and is an important transport terminal, with a bus interchange and ferry services to Gosport and the Isle of Wight. The station currently has four platforms in use: numbered 1, 3, 4 and 5. It is managed by South Western Railway. Platform 2 is no longer in use, having been decommissioned in the early 1990s following major repair and refurbishment work to the pier that the platforms sit on. The station is located adjacent to Portsmouth Harbour between the Gunwharf Quays shopping centre and the Historic Dockyard. Unusually for a mainline railway station, it is built over water as the station was originally constructed on wooden piles, which were later replaced by iron supports. Want to read more about another route featuring Portsmouth Harbour, read this suggestion I made last year: Portsmouth Direct Line: London Waterloo-Portsmouth Harbour I hope you enjoyed this suggestion, 4 suggestions in a week, that's a new record , suggestions will be going back down to 2 a week like before the festive period from next week, put your thoughts below as always, I'm TrainGeek08 signing off this suggestion und wir sehen uns beim nächsten Vorschlag, auf Wiedersehen (That's a big clue in which country the next suggestion is in )
Great suggestion though if you don't mind me saying would it be better for this to be an extension of ECW. As no new rolling stock would be introduced which I know a lot of people aren't happy about. So instead of it being a route should be a extension of ecw as it would allow the 42 miles from Brighton to Portsmouth and the extension of ECW past Eastbourne to Hastings which is only 14 extra miles. Which would allow ECW to become West and east Coastway which I think would be better.
Agreed but you could have the possibility to make a bundle called the Coastways but yeah they are separate routes gwrfan#3416 sadly, ECW & WCW will probably be seperate routes if that was to be the case
A superb suggestion - and well done for such a detailed effort. The WCW is currently one of my top 3 routes (alongside Arun Valley and ECML South) I'd like to see in TSW. Why I'd love to see this route is, firstly, it will complement Brighton Mainline and ECW (would like to see this fully extended to Ore too as well) thus making it feel like a proper route network, secondly, more of the awesome Class 313, thirdly, can use existing GWR 166s as extra traffic, and finally more Electrostars which I enjoy. Some of my recent pictures of the WCW:
Thanks, these suggestions are always as detailed as they can , nice pictures there by the way A WCW/BML/ECW and even PDL merge would be fantastic, Victoria/Waterloo to Portsmouth
Excellent idea and when it's time to merge using the common point origin system as said by Matt why not make it London Victoria due to ECW and BML being mile Zero for London Brighton and South Coast Railway which actually built the line before being merged in 1923 to form the Southern Railway. The exception is the Portsmouth area where WCW merges with Portsmouth Direct Line originally built London and Southwestern Railway mile zero London Waterloo Station.
I would slightly prefer if we got the Portsmouth Harbour to Southampton Central segment of West Coastway instead, with the Class 444 and 450 operated by South Western Railway/South West Trains. This way we could get a new train type and new train operating company, that would help differentiate it more from East Coastway. The Class 166, 313 and 377 can still layer on from existing DLCs (whilst avoiding the duplication of assets). Brighton to Portsmouth Harbour is still a route I would love to see, although it might be slightly more beneficial if it were to appear on TSC instead, as that game has no southern coastway routes yet (surprisingly) and by means of merging with the existing Brighton Main Line. The Class 313 could be ported over too (similar to the TSW Class 465 appearing in the latest Chatham Main Line route).
Thanks, yeah that would be an excellent idea, WCW/BML/ECW, call it the Brighton bundle or the South Coast bundle
Thank you, the photos are from the Internet if you want to look for yourself but this format is easily understandable for me and for everyone reading
That's absolutely fine if you think that, well Portsmouth-Southampton would be nice as freight could be more common going to/from Southampton MCT or the various Docks so that would be a viable alternative Regarding this route in TSC, I believe Havant to Portsmouth is modelled and so is Hove to Brighton so the missing gap is Hove-Havant, I wonder who would make a TSC equivalent though
I love this idea. The one downside is there are no SWT or SWR trains in the game yet so Havant - Portsmouth HBR won't be as busy. I'd still love to see this route in the game
Thanks, would be nice to have all 3 routes going out of Brighton Well, who said this route wouldn't be made after an SWR/T Desiro route was made so maybe the Desiros could layer, but only if a SWR/T route was made prior to this coming out
You could make the argument that this is too similar to east Coastway and BML, but I would disagree East Coastway takes you through the countryside, stopping not too frequently BML takes you through the countryside into the city , with either few or lots of stop , depending on which service you pick But west Coastway carries you right through the urban seaside towns of West Sussex and Hampshire It would be different to what we’ve seen before, and has my full backing
Thanks, yeah you'll get people which will say it's too similar to previous routes but at the end of the day, it's just a suggestion
Thanks, so would I, if one of my suggested routes were to come to the game, I would definitely buy it
If this wasn't set in the 21st century, then I would like to see this route. Just a bit bored of the current Southern routes
Well, that's your opinion, which I will gladly entitle you with, but I can see where you are coming from
Does the 73 count? I like the 73.. TBH I'm not from that area of the UK so I have very limited knowledge on trains that run on the Brighton Mainline
Great route suggestion that would compliment East Coastway and London to Brighton really well. Massive thumbs up from me!
Thanks. I tried to give my appreciation for your very well put together presentation but apparently its awaiting moderator approval for some reason! In it I said how much I supported the idea and how I thought it fitted well with existing content. Massive thumbs up from me!" So yeah, massive thumbs up from me
They need to return to Southern routes at some point. This one would benefit from the route hopping feature
That is a good point, that is an advantage of this route with the ability to route hop at Brighton to either BML or ECW .
