forgot if I mentioned Luzern Sursee... I was looking forward to it SO MUCH... cos of Flirt and ETCS... Flirt was awesome, the route kinda ok, but the ETCS broke it for me... I dont mind getting penalty brake applications when I know I got em cos I didnt do sth or didnt react in time (justified), but not when the restriction is only shown in advance in the HUD (which helps but I usually try to read the track ahead of me if possible), and ETCS just jumps into speed restriction you have no time to react to and bam, aka it is broken... other than that, I play most of my DLCs, even done some US freight runs lately
I could give a few answers RRO, bought it at full price in 2022, played it once and haven’t touched it since Arosa line, just a bit rubbish Rapid transit, bought it with the 182, another one I’ve barely played over the last few years Chemnitz, the 612 is really annoying
oh, I like RRO, tho it is a little short, so I dont play it as much... I do play Rapid Transit once in a while cos it has decent runs with 182 and Tharandter Rampe is one of my faves, especially 612... the tilting, the safety stuff (now the GNT display is improved thanks to FTF) and the quirky controls make it a constant challenge... as for Swiss routes, I only have Luzern Sursee which I dont play cos of broken ETCS and not much care about the rest as it is just slow mountain railways, would be more interested in some regular mainlines so I could drive lets say Twindexx or Giruno, and a nice route with start/terminus at Zurich HB
Blackpool...its dull as dishwater and not great graphically. The novelty value is the BR blue, not much else going for it.
If they’d included the tramway in 1986 when the heritage fleet and trolley poles still ruled the day…
I can't really say there are any I regret buying; not because there's none that don't stir me, but because generally the ones I end up being 'meh' about are incidental, cheap pick-ups during sales. East Coastway is 'all right'; New York to Trenton feels a bit dull (though it's better with the Acela); and there's a couple of older German routes I can't even remember the name of. Edinburgh to Glasgow was in this category, but the Sprinter timetable has me driving it far more often. West Cornwall Local, I sort of assumed would end up like this, but despite some people being vocal about their dislike...I actually really like it.
On reflection, although it was part of a bundle, Flying Scotsman might actually rank as the worst add on in my collection!
I actually enjoy it. Graphics are great I'd say. And the BR blue, along with the Pacer, make it perfect.
I've bought a few routes thinking "yeah they might not have much stock now, but hopefully when more comes out". Cross City and Glossop for example. Lesson learned - it does sometimes happen (like with Cathcart) but it's best to wait until it does.
The whole of TSW actually. It started off well in 2020, but its direction and progress towards a casual train driving game has left me disappointed
Rapid transit. It was no fun at all, I'm afraid when it was created. Only after a loco DLC came, it became a little bit more interesting.
Arosa, it was different when it came ut, but basicly it is always the same. Set speed when going up, do all the stops. use brake when going down, do all the stops
Did you not notice the shunting services? These are quite interesting. Also I like the few freight scenarios
Luzern Sureee and arosa line. Both feel like a waste of money to me. I don't play ethier of them enough and they both have had quality. Glossop line is good quality but got boring fast and I don't play it much.
I was so hyped for that one... while the train is awesome, the route is ehm, passable... but I was so bummed once I saw the broken ETCS where I was regularly getting penalty applications cos ETCS wouldnt give me warnings of limits in enough advance... and I am no slouch, I play all my DLCs with all safety systems on, including BR 101 Expert... but this one, damn... I am still holding on to hope we see a working loco or MU with functioning ETCS one day tho
The only DLC I would return. I bought it on the first day. It's the BR187DB DLC. It's the worst locomotive in the entire TSW series.
Wasn't keen on clinchfield. Don't think I ever completed a proper run of it. Had some issues with trains being in the way etc around half way point
Clinchfield was okay but suffered from poor lighting and lack of banking comms for mid train and rear helpers. I would say I actually played it more than HSC and definitely more than Cane Creek.
Clinchfield is actually one of my favorites. Had me when I was rolling down a mountain through the woods with the light from the headlight my only company. Grew up in the mountains; it nails that specific vibe of cool and creepy.
The GOBLIN line. I have absolutely zero interest in railways around London and the South, but after playing and enjoying GWE, SEHS, BML and East Coastway in the early days of TSW, thought I'd give Gospel Oak a try .... and it bored me to death. I never want to see another TfL or London overground route again, and will stick to Birmingham, Manchester and everything "Up North" going forward... Oh, and Wales is very cool too.
Update: somehow in the ensuing two years, the ETCS was fixed! There's one missing warning, but otherwise Level 1 works as advertised. And the train IS a very good train. I find it a very relaxing easy short run now, and the building assets are genuinely Swiss, too. The route I really regret paying even seven bucks for is NY-Trenton. Signaling is completely and utterly LOVEd; it really is an unplayable route.
It's far from my favorite, but...how is it unplayable? Haven't had a single problem with it that isn't just me not being particularly charmed by it.
Random penalty brakes for no reason, unrelated to speed limits or signals. Also, the timings are completely ridiculous. AI-generated of course, so based on blowing through at line speed ignoring ATC limits
I don't remember encountering this. But I don't drive the route much; you've got me curious. May do a few runs over the weekend.
Glossop line. It has a few interesting parts at either end of the route but it’s mostly driving through a cutting/embankment with stations that all look the same IMO.
Luzern - Sursee will remain the only route that I deeply regret and have only played 5 times before Uninstalling. I am, and always be a die-hard fan of SBB routes, but this one was incredibly disappointing when it came to gameplay and distance. When it came to the gameplay, there were more issues than I hoped to see. Safety systems being whacky, signage having weird issues and overall a lack of replay ability... I mean, it really felt like what I'd imagine driving a tram up Uetliberg 42 times a day up and down would feel like. It's just not fun. To be fair to rivet, SBB has been rather restrictive when it comes to...anything frankly. It's saddening because the route could have been so much more. The distance, was one of the most disappointing parts. I mean, just why? The line extends beyond what we have in game, yet all we have is this small segment making it feel like an odd Beta Demo. So, it truly is my one and only regretful purchase that I genuinely considered refunding.
I think the purchase I regret most is buying TSW5 Deluxe Edition, even when I had it on a 70% discount. The UK route is decent but nothing too special, the German routes adds absolutly nothing, and the US route is a lagfest on a route that's the opposite of scenic.
I think both Metrolink routes would have been better served added into Run 8, particularly AVL as it would provide the classic route for the Bakersfield Oil Cans down into the LA Basin. They are also yet another example of why we need more than one save slot, so you can leave off and do something else before coming back.
For me it's probably TSW4's deluxe edition, both the German/Austrian & US routes provide to not be as interesting as I had hoped, and have gained little play time since I've bought them. And while for what it's worth I have drive Scotsman around quite a bit, it's pretty hard to deny it's a half-baked product. Similarly have put in a fair bit of time on ECML, and I do like it, but it is probably one of the single least interesting UK routes I own. The Vectron's the only real true winner of the bunch to me. Between that and having been saddled with the dreaded NEC Trenton via the Amtrak bundle for TSW3 those have pretty well put me off buying further route bundles from DTG going forward. Was actually expecting to drop TSW entirely going forward until DTG announced the free upgrade.
I've picked up all of my stuff in some kind of sale so it isn't the worst thing in the world, but if you mean routes that you play 1 service and it's just not your bag. Glossop Line - thought I'd enjoy it like I did the BCC but ended up only liking the layers but it's just not enough for me, the freight is just too short, the layers just too short and not enough of them. TVL/NTP - I thought I really liked BR stuff but it turns out that it was just because it's all I owned. Once I got more routes I really just never touched them again. Mildmay Line - I thought because I absolutely love the Goblin id love the Mildmay but after the novelty wore off it's become (imo) just another 37x variant and again I just rarely play it except for the 710 layers
I have the HFP for NTP and the 20 & 31/1 for TVL and while I do like the railtours, they're just not my cuppa. But like the thread states, not because of the routes or anything just my tastes i s'pose
I regret buying the West Cornwall Steam Railtour, even at a discount. And Mittenwaldbahn. Not because it is a bad route, far from it. But because it breaks other stuff and the extremely nice Ludwigsbahn 103 railtour - which was the main reason for buying it - does not work if you have certain other stuff installed.
hm, really? I mean, cos ETCS, at least in theory, should be as easy to use as ATC/ACSES combo, just following what machine tells you ... if you say it has largely been fixed, might give it a go sometime then... but if you arent right, I will send Imperial Inquisition your way for an act of tech-heresy lol
ETCS is even easier than ACS/ACSES, because it gives you a polite beep and a visual braking curve, it doesn't scream at you and demand maximum brakes RIGHT NOW! The typical driving profile on Boston or LIRR is a series of "dips" where the system forces you to brake way underspeed and accelerate again; ETCS allows for nice smooth deceleration.
I know that ... so you say it is MOSTLY working? like there is one or two places where it doesnt give you warning and just goes bam! brakes? ... y know, just so I am ready when I jump back
Well, in that one spot, it's a signed speed limit change so you can see it coming literally a mile off, unless you're playing HUDless.
hmm, will have to try a service or two sometime soon cos yeah I also liked the train itself, but stopped playing after I got some sudden dips in speed followed by unwarranted emergency brake applications... but since you say it got fixed, I am curious
