Which Extended Uk Routes You Would Like To See Most In Tsw4

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by Benjamin Lynam, Apr 21, 2024.

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  1. ECML extension to York

    43.6%
  2. GWR extension to Oxford

    32.0%
  3. TVL extension to Bishop Auckland

    23.1%
  4. NTP extension to York & Liverpool

    20.9%
  5. PFR extension to Manchester Central & Derby

    17.8%
  6. BCC extension to Worcester

    11.1%
  7. SEHS extension to Canterbury & Channel Tunnel

    27.1%
  8. EC extension to Hastings

    24.0%
  9. WCL extension to Plymouth

    17.3%
  10. BB extension to Liverpool

    8.4%
  11. SoS extension to Stoke-on-Trent

    6.7%
  12. FCL extension to Perth

    9.3%
  13. MML extension to Sheffield

    40.9%
  14. BCC extension to Coventry & Wolverhampton

    10.2%
  15. TVL extension to Whitby

    14.7%
  16. ECML extension to Lincoln & Leeds

    21.8%
  17. GWR extension to Swindon, Newbury & Banbury

    13.3%
  18. BML extension to London Bridge & West Croydon

    24.4%
  19. WCML extension to Birmingham New St

    1.3%
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  1. Benjamin Lynam

    Benjamin Lynam Active Member

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    I like, that idea, but I think going down to St Pancras may be a bit too far for DTG.
     
  2. Benjamin Lynam

    Benjamin Lynam Active Member

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    I'm not sure if DTG are able to go to Abbey Wood, but they may include the Elizabeth line, but they're more likely to extend it to Oxford.
     
  3. Benjamin Lynam

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    I would too.
     
  4. Benjamin Lynam

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    Yeah, I would love to see cities that have never been in TSW. e.g Worcester as you said, Bristol, York etc.
     
  5. Benjamin Lynam

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    With the BML, it maybe a bit too much for DTG to handle.
    With ECML, they're more likely to make London-Peterborough as a separate route. They're more likely to extend the current section to York.
     
  6. Benjamin Lynam

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    Cool! But I think it's more logical to end the ECML at York.
     
  7. Benjamin Lynam

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    I completely agree. I'm really surprised York isn't in TSW already.
     
  8. Benjamin Lynam

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    Yeah, I would like to see more routes with variety. e.g. BCC, LGV Marseille-Avignon etc.
     
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  9. Benjamin Lynam

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    Yeah, I'll add that now.
     
  10. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Of course GWE hindered by the loss of the FGW/GWR licence, unless it was taken back to an earlier era.
     
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  11. Benjamin Lynam

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    Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing a GWR steam era, extended as well.
     
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  12. truttmann#7345

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    Des trains françaises dans la région grand est
     
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  13. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    1. That’s not an extension to an existing route.
    2. Please post in English which is the spoken language on this forum.
     
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  14. Indege

    Indege Well-Known Member

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    Why would you expect everyone on this forum to speak english? DTG have made a french route so why shouldnt french be allowed
     
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  15. OldVern

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    It is clearly stated in the forum CoC that English is the spoken language here. This is not the place to be making nationalistic statements. DTG also make Scottish routes, doesn’t mean they should be discussed in Gaelic! :)
     
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  16. truttmann#7345

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    bien dit se son des rasite
     
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  17. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    The forum is an English speaking forum, we don't have moderators in all languages and 99.9% of people speak English on the forum - so if you don't speak the same language, you're simply not going to get much value out of participation in the forum either and will be likely ignored.

    Simple as that really.

    Matt.
     
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  18. RobertSchulz

    RobertSchulz Well-Known Member

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    Well, I would say one route doesn't justify a new forum language to be honest. But continueing by this thinking I wonder why we don't have a german speaking subforum with all the german and since TSW4 even austrian routes, yet.

    Jan also can speak german, so no problem from the moderation part I guess.
     
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    59321747 Well-Known Member

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    I would still like to see long haul cargo routes in the US. While this is not the right time to talk here, I have said before that launching long-haul cargo routes in the United States is not realistic in the short term. So I hope DTG can open a long-distance cargo route to the United States once a year.
     
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  20. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    I'd love to do them but as discussed at length elsewhere - the problem is without access to trains, you'd get new routes with copy-paste trains and non authentic audio / physics. I just don't think that hits the mark you want, so until that problem is resolved you're going to see focus elsewhere.

    Matt.
     
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  21. Disintegration7

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    I voted ECML to York (though i'd rather south to KGX)

    TVL to Bishop Auckland (with updated lighting/scenery and the full timetable could be the best route in the game).

    MML to Sheffield- i like this route and want more lol
     
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  22. Benjamin Lynam

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    I think ECML Peterborough-King's X is more likely to become a separate route. They're more likely to extend the route to York.
     
  23. Benjamin Lynam

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    Okay, thanks for letting me know Matt.
     
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    Or you could copy + paste from your language to English and post it on DTG forums.
     
  25. Benjamin Lynam

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    That's a fair point. DTG could auto-translate to whatever language you speak from what another person speaks and the other way round. A lot of websites do that. In fact, I actually may suggest that for the forums.
     
  26. oliver109

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    An extension to York would feel a bit pointless really, wouldn't Leeds be better? Then you could have scope for adding a class 321 and the new electric units that run there now.
     
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  27. Benjamin Lynam

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    I can see where you're coming from, but there is a route to Leeds already, the Northern TransPennine. And there isn't a route to York yet, and more LNER trains go to York. However, DTG could do both Leeds & York as an extension.
     
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  28. Benjamin Lynam

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    Yeah, even if I'm British, I would be happy for other people if they got a type of route they wanted.:D
     
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    York should come with a line either to Leeds via Knaresbourough which is a gorgeous route or to Scarborough, it would be nice to see a modern day Leeds with modern rolling stock.
     
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  30. Phil567

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    Voted ECML north or south , but would also really like BML extension maybe to London Bridge , West Croydon etc .
     
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  31. Benjamin Lynam

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    I would really like that as well. The Harrogate Line would be a great way to introduce York to the game. But for York-Scarborough, I'm not sure if DTG has the licence for TPE since TPE is now owned by the UK Government.
     
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  32. Benjamin Lynam

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    Yeah, I'll add that now.
     
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    But you make routes in non english speaking countries so why shouldn’t you expect people from those countries to be on the forums speaking their language. If language barrier is a problem hire people from those countries or tell the mods to right click and press translate?
     
  34. matt#4801

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    Can you imagine how much more of a jumbled mess the forums would be with various different languages! I mean look at how things are here sometimes now.

    And if we had various languages we'd then have the Scouse using their funny words and noises, the South East 'gangsters' with their 'English' mostly comprising of groups of muddled letters and then the Glaswegians might start!

    Of course, if you are any of the groups mentioned I am just joking and don't actually care how you talk or where you are from, well unless you are Scouse! ;)
     
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  35. oliver109

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    Isn't LNER also owned by the UK gov?
     
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  36. solicitr

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    Well, I think that one can make a very tasty meal from the leftovers in the fridge, with a bit of care and creativity. You have a heap of NA locomotives, you have brand licenses, you know the principal signal systems, and at least for parts of the Northeast you've mastered PTC. The right combination of ingredients, made with care, could prove very satisfactory, and I honestly think only the whingeing addicts could compain that it's existing US diesel stock instead of a different but really awfully similar new diesel freight loco. (Of course, at least in theory you could probably get access to a switcher owned by a RR museum/heritage RR; you wouldn't need to record it at high speed! An SW series could be a "new" locomotive)

    (Again, I'd hype something of the Keystone Corridor/Harrisburg sort- you have all the bits.)
     
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  37. Benjamin Lynam

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    Yes. What I think I meant to say was TPE isn't giving their licence out since Train Simulator Classic.
     
  38. sam5166

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    They only extended the HS1 section though. You can't for instance take trains to Dover, Ramsgate, London Victoria or London Charing Cross
     
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  39. jack#9468

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    Also from Gravesend to Dartford.
     
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    Would rather have the ECML south imo (easier for licensing plus we have enough rolling stock in the game to make it work) only issue is length and station numbers but I would do near anything for a southbound extension imo
     
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    Couldn't have put it better myself. The only reason I can think of why this isn't being done is that it's not profitable. And there's nowhere to go from there.
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    That could actually be possible. Only need the 717 for a full timetable (which fits with the one train routes we get nowadays) as all others can layer from other routes.

    If they did BML, ECML South can't be too far out.
     
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  43. Spikee1975

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    Can we have some more votes for MML to Sheffield please? :cool: This route is just too short as it is.

    Adjust your votes if they're in the <10% range, useless to cry for an SoS extension :D
     
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  44. OldVern

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    The only thing about MML is that it’s not an in house route which is primarily what DTG would be looking at. However one would hope the associates also get on board with the notion that extending an older route (which to be fair MML isn’t really yet) is worth looking at, along with some new traction and rolling assets.
     
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  45. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    While I'm personally only looking at DTG in-house projects for potential extensions - it's still worth having the discussions include 3rd party projects, as those third party developers may be interested in seeing the feedback.
     
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  46. DTG Matt

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    The overarching feedback on just about any release that doesn't contain a new train is that the release is heavily compromised because of it. It'll dominate the steam reviews, dominate the forums. I don't like to call our players "whinging addicts" particularly, I think it's perfectly find if their expectation is a new product should have a new driving experience in it. But you're essentially looking at making a weaker product, for an already niche audience (US freight) using stock they have already said is not up to standard. That doesn't pitch a product in a strong light to give confidence in its success (note: by success I dont mean a blinding light of world record beating everything, success for me just means on balance, most players enjoy it and think they got good value).

    I'm going to look at some "no new train" options to see what could be done there though, there's been some interesting discussions that are worth following up on.

    Matt.
     
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  47. devsecops#8603

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    This thread is great way to narrow down what is most popular and what we would like to see more of.

    Skyhook did talk about MML and its potential to grow. The main ask was a 222 and extension to Sheffield.

    MML Bedford to St Pancras would be another great one as would use the 700 as well as HST, the lovable rouge that is a 66 (also TSW Rat as appears everywhere) and of course a 45 railtour.
     
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  48. Spikee1975

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    Begs the question if they are interested in route building any more, they have their gameplay packs and other games they're working on too, only having made three routes for TSW (did I forget one?). And a nice but low effort TSC route, Livonia Sub plus that Halloween thing. Oh, and NarrowGaugePack is the cute Corris railway. Nice but a quick project.

    Checking my TSC Skyhook folder - their specialty has always been rolling stock.
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  49. OldVern

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    As I mentioned about the 1442 though, compared to its TSC equivalent, there is scope to give the existing stock a buff. Or for something like NTP drop in something like a set of Mark Ones reskinned into blue and grey which are still a big gap in the official fleet (giving due credit to the 3rd party reskins that have been done).

    However a route like TVL with a Class 56 and the Boulby and Bishop Auckland branch ought to sell like a hot cake.
     
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  50. Spikee1975

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    Dunno, I sorely miss the Deltic. I've missed all now withdrawn TSC releases and am stuck with the Kuju model and the RSC DP1 prototype. It's just a majestic Art-Déco loco, that is just not featured as it should be in both games.
     
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