I’ve had a look on the ATS site and can see MANCHESTER VICTORIA is included too. I would be more interested in perhaps Lime Street to Huddersfield through Victoria. That’s a TPE 802 route, and other rolling stock. That said, York to Newcastle is the one I’d most like to see soon (albeit unlikely to be ATS)
Never mind, 92 KM would be too long. If Manchester Vic was there as well as Man Pic, that would be good. Already got Piccadilly in glossop line.
UK Chatham Main Line, Ashford to Ramsgate and Dover, either as Southeastern Highspeed Extended Extended, or a Network Southeast era route with Class 411 (4CEP) Southeastern Highspeed extended to include Folkestone, Channel Tunnel, Coquelles A historical era boat train route including Dover USA A route using the PRR S1 Stevens Pass including the Cascade Tunnel A logging railway with geared steam locomotives Switzerland Bernese Oberland Railway, Interlaken to Lauterbrunnen and Grindelwald Jungfrau Railway, Kleine Scheidegg to Jungfraujoch Norway Oslo Metro Line 1 Brazil Serra Verde Express Misc A route with a change of gauge, and a gauge changing train A modern day train ferry route such as Italy - Sicily, or the now closed Hamburg - Copenhagen train ferry Any route not in Europe or America For fun A military railway with armoured trains
Bother - I’m getting really mixed up. that’d be shorter than PBO -> DON so manageable I suppose. I was thinking 92 miles would be too long, but of course it was km
I would love the C2C operator to enter the world of simulation. They use various trains aswell. They have recently implemented the 710's to their service.
I suggest a line set in a new country: Italy. The route is the Brescia-Iseo-Edolo, 103 km (64 miles). I had already made a post about it, in the suggestions.
Edinburgh - Dundee or Fife Circle Line is my dream route. Would really love to finally see some Berlin S Bahn route in TSW.
Besides the BNSF (or ATSF) Seligman Sub, I have a few other dream routes. Here they are: -UP Evanston Sub: Ogden, UT-Green River, WY; Modern day with UP C45AH (ET44AC), SD70M, GP60, C45ACCTE (ES44AC), SD40N, SD59MX, and/or SD70ACe-T4 (also UP #4014 and #844 DLCs) -SP Donner Pass: Roseville, CA-Reno, NV; 1950s with AC-Class 4-8-8-2 Cab Forward, 2-8-0 Consolidation, and early diesels (F7, SD7/9, GP7/9, NW2, Alco S2/S4, FM H-12-44, etc.); include snowblower and other snow-clearing equipment; 1990s with AC4400CW, GP60, GP38-2 (for snow-clearing services), C44-9W, SD70M, SD40T-2, SD45R, SD45T-2, etc.) -WP Feather River Canyon: Oroville-Portola, CA; 1960s-70s with WP U30B, GP40/GP40-2, GP35, SW9, U23B, etc (same as updated TS Classic Route) -ATSF Raton Pass: Trinidad, CO-Raton, NM; early-mid 1990s with C40-8W/C41-8W, B40-8/B40-8W, SD45, SD45-2, SD40-2, SD75M, C44-9W, GP50, GP60/GP60M/GP60B, GP39-2, GP35u, GP30u, etc.; plus Amtrak F40PH or P32-8BWH with SW Chief Superliner Consist -SP Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco-Gilroy, CA; 1960s-70s with FM H-24-66 Trainmaster, SD9 "Cadillac", GP9, and/or SDP45 -BNSF, BN, or GN Marias Pass and/or Steven's Pass -Pacific Surfliner: LA-San Diego; Modern Day with Siemens SC44 Charger, Surfliner Cab Car, BNSF GP60/M, and BNSF ET44C4; P42DC and F59PHI as DLCs -Brightline/Florida East Coast Miami-Orlando with Brightline SCB-40 Charger/Siemens Venture Coaches, FEC ES44C4 w/ LNG Fuel Car, GP40-2/-3, SD40-2, and/or GP38-2/-3 -BNSF/Metra Chicago Racetrack with Metra F40PH-2/F40PHM-2/Commuter Cars/Commuter Cab Car, Amtrak SC44 and ALC-42 Chargers/Superliners/Siemens Venture Cars, and BNSF GP39-3, GP50, GP60/M/B, ET44C4, ES44AC/DC/C4, SD70MAC, C44-9W, etc.
From New Orleans; CSX to Jacksonville, Fl CPKCS to Shreveport, La UP and BNSF to Houston CN to Jackson, Ms
Tehachapi Pass, late 80's or early 1990's Bakersfield to Mojave. -Bakersfield has both the Santa Fe and Southern Pacific Yards. -Mojave has the Southern Pacific yard, plus the short branch to the cement plant west of Mojave -Local SP jobs from Bakersfield to Edison, plus the cement plant at Monolith. Ive made a suggestion about this way back in the TSW2 era https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/route-re-proposal-tehachapi-pass-late-80s-early-90s.56491/
It's actually a nice looking train, along with the 331s (which are essentially the same but electric).
There is a Japanese route that is going to feature according to the latest roadmap. However it was a huge disappointment in my opinion.
I would love to see Hamburg-Hannover-Göttingen with Metronom Dostos, ICE 1, and ICE 4 (12 and 13 wagon) with RE2 and RE 3 services represented as well as a branch line to the Hanover airport and/or a branch for the S4 for the Hanover-Göttingen section both the Regional and Highspeed route could be represented. For S-Bahn services there would be the Stadler Flirt 3XL, for the regional services Metronom Dostos(146.2, 4-5 high entry dostos, 1 low entry dosto, 1 dosto control car) You could also include the ICE-T (has a higher presence due to a maintenance base) as a separate add on(Layer onto Dresden Riesa) and layer on the BR101 for IC services. There would be a high service variation and people could pick and choose what they want to drive.
Couple days later and it turns out I got the dream route I wanted for so long. Thank you for your comment .
Here is the post: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/brescia-iseo-edolo-railway-tsw4.74065/#post-724139
So true since we’re still waiting for an ICE 2, T and 4, even there have been plenty of opportunities
That's the Tadami line a TSC Japanese route. One thing I see is this Make the Tadami Line first then make the NGO Airport Tonkoname Line. You are going to see a Tadami Line DMU run to the NGO Chubu airport station. Since Union Workshop holds a JR West licence the Tadami Line DMU layer to KIX Kansai Airport to Kyoto Railway the Haruka.
Dream route; Isle of wight steam railway Isle of wight steam in the 1950s London to Portsmouth ever the SWT, Network southeast or BR blue Southampton to Bournemouth ever in SWT, Network southeast or BR Blue Giselabahn Wörgl to Saalfelden (Austria Route)
Wien - Salzburg, or Wien-Stammstrecke and any complete S-Bahn/regional route, either corridors to Wiener Neustadt or towards Bratislava... so many options or S45+S80+some regional thing around Vienna... basically something complete involving Viennese Stammstrecke and rich rail network of Vienna and Nahverkehr Ostregion other than that probably some German route with pattern of PZB+LZB+PZB+LZB+PZB or sth, aka more than one entry and ending of LZB from Slovakia possibly Bratislava - Žilina, as it is the only 160 km/h corridor (or my home route, Bratislava - Galanta, but that one is fairly boring, except 140 km/h after recent upgrade)... and I love all three Vienna corridors heading towards Bratislava (massively upgraded Marchegger Ostbahn, both corridors, Ganserndorf and Schonfeld; the one via Bruck an der Leitha and the one that doesnt go all the way to Bratislava, only to Wolfsthal) - they have a lot of stops (when counting not only REX but also regional ones), nice variety of rolling stock and nice speeds as well, and each has a different and nice approach into Vienna
London Waterloo To Southampton Central In The 1950/60s The 79 mile section of the Southern Railway from the busiest London Terminus: London Waterloo to Southampton Central in the 1950/60s. The Southern Railway took a key role in expanding the 660 V DC third rail electrified network begun by the London and South Western Railway. As a result of this, and its smaller operating area, its steam locomotive stock was the smallest of the 'Big Four' companies. Locomotives of the Southern Railway: SR V Class (Schools Class) Top Speed: 95 mph (153 km/h) SR King Arthur Class (LSWR N15 Class) Top Speed: 90 mph (145 km/h) SR U Class Top Speed: 70mph (110 km/h) SR Q Class SR 4-6-2 Merchant Navy Class no. 35028 Clan Line 105 mph (167 km/h), now permitted to 75 mph (120 km/h) SR Merchant Navy Class Top Speed: 105 mph (167 km/h) SR West Country and Battle of Britain Top Speed: 90 mph (145 km/h) SR Q1 Neville Top Speed: 75 mph (120 km/h) BR Standard Class 5 SR USA Class Diesel SR Class 4 Sub (possible AI) Operations: The lines inherited in 1923 were divided into three geographical sections: The Western Section (former LSWR routes) included the South West Main Line, the Portsmouth Direct Line, one quarter of the West Coastway Line (between Portsmouth and Southampton) and the West of England Main Line, both serving destinations popular with holidaymakers. It stretched into Devon and Cornwall as the line ran via Exeter, Okehampton and Plymouth, and this circuitous route was known derisively as the Southern Railway's "Withered Arm" because the GWR had a stronger presence in this region. The Central Section (former LB&SCR routes) included the Brighton Main Line (the most profitable and heavily used main line), the East Coastway Line, three-quarters of the West Coastway Line, the Arun Valley Line and the Sutton & Mole Valley Lines. The Eastern Section (former SECR routes) included the South Eastern Main Line, the Chatham Main Line, the Hastings Line, the Kent Coast Line and the North Downs Line. Passenger Operations: Passenger services, especially the intensive London suburban services, constituted the key breadwinner of the Southern Railway. The railway also served Channel ports and a number of attractive coastal destinations which provided the focus for media attention. This meant that the railway operated a number of famous named trains, providing another source of publicity for John Elliot. The Eastern and Central Sections of the network served popular seaside resorts such as Brighton, Eastbourne, Hastings and the Channel ports, whilst the Western Section catered for the heavy summer holiday traffic to the West Country resorts. Passenger services on the Southern Railway consisted of luxury Pullman dining trains and normal passenger services, which gave the railway a high total number of carriages at 10,800. Pullmans: Pullman services were the premier trains of the Southern, reflecting the pride felt towards the railway. These luxury services included several boat trains such as the Golden Arrow (London - Paris, translated as Flèche d'Or for the French part of its route), The Cunarder (London - Southampton Ocean Liner service) and the Night Ferry (London - Paris and Brussels), the Brighton Belle on the Central Section, and the Bournemouth Belle and Devon Belle on the Western Section. The Golden Arrow was the best-known train of the Southern Railway, and was introduced on 15 May 1929. The train consisted of Pullmans and luggage vans, linking London Victoria to Dover, with transfer to the French equivalent at Calais. The Brighton Belle, which had its origins in 1881 with the 'Pullman Limited' of the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway, which renamed the service the 'Southern Belle' in 1908. The train was steam-hauled until 1933 when electric units were introduced after the electrification of the London-Brighton Main Line. On 29 June 1934, the train was renamed the Brighton Belle and continued until withdrawal in 1972. The SECR had introduced a Pullman train called the "Thanet Pullman Limited" from Victoria to Margate in 1921. The service was not a success and ceased to run in 1928. The service was however re-introduced by British Railways as the Thanet Belle in 1948. Freight Operations: Passenger traffic was the main source of revenue for the Southern Railway throughout its existence, although goods were also carried in separate trains. Goods such as milk and cattle from the agricultural areas of the West Country provided a regular source of freight traffic, whilst imports from the south coast ports also required carriage by rail to freight terminals such as the large Bricklayers Arms facility. The railway operated three large marshalling yards for freight on the outskirts of South London, at Feltham, Norwood and Hither Green, where freight could be sorted for onward travel to their final destinations. It also handled a large volume of cross-London freight from these to other yards north of the river via the West London and East London Lines, which were jointly owned by the Southern Railway. As locomotives increased in size so did the length of goods trains, from 40 to as many as 100 four-wheeled wagons, although the gradient of the line and the braking capabilities of the locomotive often limited this. The vacuum brake, which was standard equipment on passenger trains, was gradually fitted to a number of ordinary goods wagons, allowing a number of vacuum "fitted" trains to run faster than 40 mph (64 km/h). While typical goods wagons could carry 8, 10 or (later) 12 tons, the load placed into a wagon could be as little as 1 ton, as the railway was designated as a common carrier that could not choose what goods it could carry. Conclusion: Overall, I think this would be a lovely steam route for TSW 4 because it will allow players to experience the variety of passenger and freight operations of the wonderful Southern Railway and its magnificent steam locomotives of all shapes and sizes. It will also allow players to experience the driving and firing of steam engines from another part of the "Big Four".
Thank you for your incredible suggestions. Please can you all upload images to your suggestions so that our viewers can explore the route.
One more dream route idea: the UP/BNSF Powder River Coal route in Western Wyoming -Possible Locos: -BNSF SD70MAC, ES44AC, AC4400CW, SD70ACe, ET44C6H -UP SD70ACe-T4, SD70ACe, AC4400CW/C44ACM Rebuild, AC6000CW/AC4460CW/C44ACM, C45ACCTE (ES44AC), C45AH (ET44AC), SD90MAC-H (including Ph. 2 units)/SD90-43MAC -BNSF and UP SD40-2s or GP60s for locals/switching power -C&NW Power DLCs: AC4400CW, C44-9W, SD50, SD60 -BN Power DLCs: SD45, SD70MAC, SD60M, SD60 -Rolling Stock included: -Coal gondolas in UP, BN, and BNSF liveries -Coal hoppers in all liveries -Other freight equipment for local manifest trains -Features of route: -Coal loading and unloading -DPU/Helper services
Please take your time to upload photos. It just makes your suggestion more detailed. Thanks very much to all of you who post a suggestion on my thread
Hastings - London Charing Cross - Southeastern This is my local line, so obviously I love to see it in the game one day. It is only 1 hour 35 minutes according to National Rail Enquiries and the class 375 runs on the line. - St Leonards Warrior Square, West St Leonards, Crowhurst, Battle, Robertsbridge, Etchingham, Stonegate, Wadhurst, Frant, Tunbridge Wells, High Brooms, Tonbridge, Sevenoaks, Orpington, London Bridge, Waterloo East and London Charing Cross.
West Coastway Routes (Brighton - Littlehampton, Victoria - Littlehampton, Portsmouth Harbour - Brighton, Southhamoton Central - Brighton)
hmm, now you are giving me ideas... maybe next time I am in Vienna, I might take videos of S45 (Hutteldorf - Handelskai), S80 (Hutteldorf - Aspern Nord) and Stammstrecke (Meidling - Floridsdorf) here is another dream route, but it would be too costly to make since you would have to make detailed stuff in Vienna, Badner Bahn, a tram-train operating from Karlsplatz in Vienna, in Vienna as a tram, with a short dedicated section, and from Schedifkaplatz I believe it runs more as a local train/lightrail... my own video:
Really nice suggestion. It is not my cup of tea but if it was part of a base game, I would most certainly play it. There are you recorded the video was beautiful. Thanks for the detailed suggestion.
