Tsw: “oh Canada!”

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by TrainSim-James, Feb 6, 2020.

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  1. Mkdog45

    Mkdog45 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely agree with you, when I buy routes I don't have high expectations for each route. I just think to myself will I enjoy this route and if I don't. Then really simply I don't buy. Each person likes different stuff. For example, I 100% love passenger routes more than freight routes. For you it could be different.
    I also 100% agree with you that TVL is one of the best routes on TSW. I also feel that ECW will be a great route when they have fixed the destination boards and the random flange.
     
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  2. Digital Draftsman

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    Promises aside, TVL is streets ahead in terms of content.

    With TVL, shunting was only one element of three. So you had the Class 08 to perform yard work. In addition to that, you had the point to point freight workings with the Class 37. Finally you had the Class 101 on the local passenger workings. The freight workings used a lot of different track to the passenger workings, so although it was one route, it feels like you're driving two different routes, as you're approaching from different junctions, with different speed limits and signalling depending on if it's a passenger or freight working. There's really something for everyone.

    In terms of content, you were getting two new locomotives, the Class 08 and Class 37, and one old DMU, although it included the 3-car version, so there was some new content even within the old content. The DLC also featured two completely new wagons. There are 13 stations in addition to the freight facilities, which is double the number of stations on OSD, the route is also longer.

    Comparing TVL and OSD, marketing guff aside, it's easy to see why one is much more highly rated.

    TVL is my favorite British route, it's a great piece of content and so is the Class 31 DLC. That's why it's so infuriating when DTG produce a poor DLC, because it's actually within them to do things properly and produce decent content.
     
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  3. synthetic.angel

    synthetic.angel Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I know - I did a review on TVL here:

    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/what-are-the-best-tsw-routes.20689/#post-116660

    and here:

    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/is-the-class-37-well-done-leaning-towards-that-dlc.20738/

    You missed out some of the sheer variation - four different variations of steel wagon (empty/coil/beam/slab).... (which is something I forgot to mention in my review......).

    Anyway - OSD clearly needs a lot of work. The advertising/marketing materials should be withdrawn and rewritten as a matter of urgency. All of the boundary issues, sim kick-outs, scenery splodges, broken feature animations, achievements..... all need to be fixed. And hopefully they will crack on with it all after they have fixed the DB BR 155 on RSN. ;-)
     
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  4. solon

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    We are very far from the progress of Ruhr Sieg Nord.

    If DTG wants to abandon the development of TSW by pushing players away, let it be honest to say so.
     
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  5. synthetic.angel

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  6. blaze111csx

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    The GP38-2 included in the oakville subdivision is different than all the other GP38-2s on the outside and inside; heres some of the differences I've found:
    -WAYYY different headlight controls
    -no dynamic brake
    -class lights
    -headlight intensity switch
    -has a AFM gauge
    -different speedometer.
    -the interior is green for some reason
    outside there is no bell I can find and the fan layout is totally different, also there's a covering over some of the forward fans... also the steps and the front and back ends of the train are different... also there is a handbrake wheel instead of a handle.
     
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  7. blaze111csx

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    oops I believe I quoted the wrong person
     
  8. erg73

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    What a surprise to see up here the thread of this route, how long! If it even comes out synthetic.angel here, what memories!:)
    I was playing again in Canada the other day and it really could have become a great TSW route, if it hadn't been abandoned.
    I hope that one day you will think about it and take out some DLC for this route, including for example passengers, and take the opportunity to open and enable all those areas of the Port of Hamilton that were so talked about. It could be a great claim and I don't think it would be a great effort for DTG.
     
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  9. Crosstie

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    Agreed. The potential of the Oakville Sub has not been exploited to date. We can only hope, but I doubt very much if any of what you suggest will be realized.
     
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    The article said that the length of the entire route was 20400 miles, and DTG only extended it by less than 30 miles. Can I laugh out loud?

    Who put up the posts from years ago?
     
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  11. Agent Llama

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    What are the chances of passenger services being added to this route? Played it for the first time today and glad I only paid a few quid for it on the PSN sale over Christmas - it’s so empty!
     
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    You just necroposted a year old thread
     
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    Also, to answer the question, passenger services are actually coming to this route through the Baby Bullet DLC, idk when they will be released tho.
     
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  14. DTG Natster

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    Please see the forum rules regarding necrobumping.
     
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