Hauptstrecke Bochum-dortmund/hagen: Mega Merger Hrr,rro & Rsn Via Witten

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  1. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys it's me Driverwoods#1787 and I present the Hauptstrecke Bochum-Dortmund/Hagen route to link HRR,RRO & RSN. Completing the Hagen Hbf Network

    Contents
    • Map
    • Description
    • Rolling Stock
      • DLC
      • Layers from German Routes
    • Service Pattern
    • Pictures
    • Videos
      • Action at Rbf Hagen Vorhalle
      • Train Announcements
    • Final Thoughts
    • Map

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    Description

    Hauptstrecke Bochum-Dortmund/Hagen is a route that runs from Bochum Hbf towards Dortmund Hbf with the Bochum Langendreer Junction built in 1988 to carry Intercity Trains RE4 playable in Rhein-Ruhr Osten & freight from Dortmund Hbf to Hagen Hbf via Bochum Langendreer Area. This was done to relieve the Wuppertal Dortmund Main Line, now the S5 & S8 S-Bahn routes of long distance traffic. This leads to the old route now Rhein Ruhr S-Bahn lines S5 und S8 via Witten-Annen Nord built in 1849 merging with the newer 1988 built Bochum Langendreer junction at Witten Hbf then continuing onwards to Hagen Hbf via Rangierbahnhof Hagen Vorhalle. Another feature of the Bochum Langendreer Junction was that it allows trains from Essen Hbf on the Hauptstrecke Rhein Ruhr built in 1860-1862 to run towards Hagen Hbf via Witten then Ruhr Sieg Nord Finnentrop Bahnhof. This is the RB40 RB16 Regional Lines which runs the Essen HRR to RSN RRO Hagen Hbf via Witten and Rangierbahnhof Hagen Vorhalle. Line length is 58 km by adding in the route information from the German Wikipedia line segments : the following are 11 km Bochum Dortmund Bochum to Witten 16 km & the 31 km length of Hagen to Dortmund Hbf Line was Electrified in 1964 by West German Deutsche Bundesbahn. This route is equipped with PZB including the associated Wuppertal Hagen Line the Rhein Ruhr Osten TSW2 route and Hagen Finnentrop Siegen Railway Line the Ruhr Sieg Nord route in Game. On the Freight side of the route all freight trains coming in from the Netherlands/Hamburg via Bochum Langendreer Junction from Bochum & Dortmund. Followed by Finnentrop/Wuppertal freight services stop at the Rangierbahnhof Hagen Vorhalle where these trains are broken down then reassembled towards the Netherlands or other Destinations in the Ruhr. Yard is operated Automatically and is made up of eleven arrival tracks, two hump tracks and 40 classification tracks that have a length of 920m.

    Rolling Stock
    If made for TSW 3 General tutorials occur in the training centre except for the hump yard operation which must take place in the route at Rbf Hagen Vorhalle

    DB BR 280.5


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    Picture is by Armin Schwarz on Bahnbilder.De

    The eco power hybrid locomotive designed to replace DB BR294 the assigned Shunter in Deutsche Bahn documents regarding Hagen Vorhalle a Rangierlokomotive. Followed by the DB BR 363 found in game at RSN and the DDR Riesa-Dresden Route in Blue paint and another west German shunter seen at Frankfurt Am Main Hbf Rangierlok DB BR212. Lastly the East German DR V100 found in game on Main Spessart Bahn DB BR204 & DR V60 DB BR345 a DLC locomotive for Riesa-Dresden if extended to add Rbf Dresden Friedrichstadt. This Locomotive works by using a 471kw MAN Diesel engine (Source is IRJ which has a paywall) and Toshiba Scib Hybrid System. For this route it will work in Rbf Hagen Vorhalle alongside DB BR204 if Main Spessart Bahn is Owned DB BR363 if Riesa-Dresden or RSN was purchased & G6 RRO. In return Bochum-Dortmund/Hagen will give DB BR280.5 to RSN RRO RSN DDR Riesa-Dresden Main Spessart Bahn & the latest Bahnstrecke Bremen Oldenburg where DB Baureihe 280.5 works Oldenburg yard & Rbf Bremen Grolland. Also running on Koln to Wuppertal Line the Rhein Wupper bahn if that route were to be made after Bochum-Hagen/Dortmund. Locomotive is Made in Rostock Mecklenburg-West Pomerania, formerly East Germany. Comes with own scenario and Achievements they’re the following

    DB BR280.5 Eco Power Complete DB BR 280.5 training level Setting is Hagen Gbf shared with RRO RSN or Bochum Gbf shared with HRR

    DB BR280.5 Hybrid Power Operate DB BR280.5 for 2805 kms accomplished by running this route or layering to the former DDR Riesa Dresden West German Deutsche Bundesbahn network RRO RSN HRR HMA

    DB BR280.5 Novice Shunter Complete the Ruhr Switcher Scenario setting is Hagen Vorhalle where you must shunt an inbound freight train coming from Finnentrop Ruhr Sieg Nord and reassemble the freight train towards the Netherlands Rotterdam via Bochum Gbf.

    On Riesa-Dresden this will run Coswig sidings and Chemical plant job. For Tharandter Rampe Shunting and local jobs. Since the DB BR280.5 is equipped with PZB 90 DB OBB then it can work alongside the OBB Shunters 2070 1064 1063 1163 If one owns Hagen-Bochum/Dortmund with DRA DCZ OBB Westbahn Salzburg-Wien.

    DB BR152

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    Built from 1996-2001 by Siemens. Comes with Zags LPG tanker wagons and Hbbins Paper Roll wagons 2 axle version of Riesa-Dresden Main Spessart Bahn Habbiins 344 paper roll wagons which are 4 axle variants of the Hbbins. Another wagon type is Snps 719 used for Wood Transport like the Roos-t 645 SKA RSN. Besides Transporting Wood trunks Snps 719 can also be loaded with Steel Pipes Last new wagon type that the DB BR152 will come is the Eanos wood chip coal wagon Uses the same 6.4kw as the Existing Taurus locomotives from Hamburg Lubeck & Rapid Transit DLC BR 182 ES64U2. DB BR152 is classified as ES64F but can’t run on ÖBB tracks which are the proposed Tauernbahn Inntalbahn and also my suggestion the Westbahn Salzburg Wien due to Track Forces.
    DB BR145
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    Freight Version of the DB BR146.0 the correct locomotive for Riesa-Dresden S-Bahn and also the Duisburg Oberhausen-Arnhem Railway RE5 service. This Locomotive can also pull Eanos Zags LPG wagons Snps 719 Wood Trunks Steel Pipe and the paper roll Hbbins like DB BR152. When it's not needed to haul Freight this locomotive can run Doppelstockwagen like the DB BR143 & 112. Are mixed traffic locomotives of East German design Deutsche Reichsbahn DDR seen on Hamburg-Lübeck Riesa-Dresden Ruhr-Sieg Nord & Tharandter Rampe Dresden Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt). Layered to RRO Main Spessart Bahn HRR & Hauptstrecke München-Augsburg. Followed by DB BR146.2 seen pulling Doppelstockwagen on Main Spessart Bahn and Riesa-Dresden. Can also pull existing 767.2 & 766 Dosto cab cars with the high entry Dabpza 786 & Dbpza 781. If the Destination sign is fitted to DB BR145 FT95 panel will have all Dosto routes in game. For Dosto 786 781 767.2 766.2 if Queen St to Waverly via Falkirk High feature is used this will use Ingo Ruff voice for RE4 Wupper Express RE1 NRW Express & RE7 Rhein Munsterland express.

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    The picture is by Christian Dittmer

    BR 462

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    Built by Siemens Mobility from 2017 Onwards these operate RRX owned by Abellio NRW Regional Bahn Regional Express RE1 Aachen-Koln-Dusseldorf-Duisburg-Essen Bochum-Dortmund Hamm and the RE4 route Aachen-Mönchengladbach-Düsseldorf-Wuppertal-Hagen-Witten-Dortmund.


    Flirt 3

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    Built from 2016-2017 by Stadler found on RE16 RB40 services Hagen-Bochum via Witten stopping at Hagen Vorhalle Passenger station. Uses Helga Bayertz announcements like HMA DB BR423 S3


    DB BR1440

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    S-Bahn Trains built from 2014-2017 for Rhein-Ruhr and Nürnberg. Trains operate on S5 Dortmund Witten Hagen and also S8 Mönchengladbach Düsseldorf Wuppertal Hagen. Playable in the game as S8 Wuppertal Steinbeck to Hagen the Rhein-Ruhr Osten route. S-Bahn announcement voice is Ingo Ruff like Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen RE9 DB BR442 Main Spessart Bahn RB55/54 RE50 Riesa-Dresden RB31 DB BR442 VVO Elsterwerda-Dresden. For the destination list, this will have RE3 RB30 Hof Zwickau Gutenfurst Werdau Chemnitz Dresden if layered onto Tharandter Rampe. HRR RB33 Aachen Essen Hbf. If made as originally for TSW 2 Intro and Training is from Hagen Hbf to Wetter (Ruhr) Guided stop is at Hagen Vorhalle. TSW 3 uses Metro-North section of the Training Centre for the intro

    DLC

    DB BR146.0


    Passenger Version of DB BR145 with Max speed of 160 kph (100 mph) instead of DB BR 145 Freight version max speed 140 kph (85 mph). Carries doppelstockwagen 781 & 786 766.2 cab car. Special Paint versions can also be the VVO ones like 146 025 Saxonia 146 017 VVO or NRW region themed

    DB BR294

    Built from 1963-1974 by MaK Kiel as DB BRV90 1968 DB BR290 designation. 1995 Rebuild added a remote control system converting DB BR290 into DB BR294

    DB BR193


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    Built from 2017 onwards as a quad voltage locomotive with various country packages. Units 193 301 & 300 have Das Ist Grun paint. Comes in with new freight wagons the I type refrigerator wagon Zagkks LNG Tanker wagon and the Gbs Boxcar. 193 394 has We Stand with Ukraine Paint.

    DB BR412

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    Built by Siemens & Bombardier from 2016-2021 Max Speed 250 km/h-265 km/h (155-165 mph). Comes in 7-13 car formation will operate ICE Lines 10 & 42 on the route with DB BR406/403. Special paint might be TZ9213 Red stripe mask and TZ9012 having a green stripe. Owners of the Bochum/Hagen-Dortmund route can use this on SFS Hannover Wurzburg Route

    DB BR 146.5


    IC2 version of DB BR146.2 operates IC55 route to Koln Hbf & December 2021 IC Frankfurt Am Main Hbf Siegen-Finnentrop-Hagen Norddeich Mole described in Deutsche Bahn Website in German Language

    Layers

    DB BR 185.2

    If made for TSW 3 locomotive comes from Main Spessart Bahn comes Zacns Habbiins Shimms U Laaers 560s or Ruhr Sieg Nord comes with Shimms TTU Shimms U 708 and SFS Hannover Wurzburg 185.2 Laaers 560 Sggmrss and Kijls goods wagons
    For the LZB PZB equipped version SFS Hannover Kassel Wurzburg gives that locomotive to this route and unlocks a Timetable service from Hagen Vorhalle to Wien Kledering/Linz via Nurnberg Rbf Passau.

    MRCE 185.5


    If RRO or Riesa-Dresden are owned these will come with Container Wagons & Zacns

    DB BR422

    If Rhein-Ruhr Osten or Hauptstrecke rhein ruhr are owned these trains will work with DB BR 1440 on S5 Line Hagen Witten Dortmund. Also the S1 service Bochum-Dortmund

    DB BR146.2

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    If Main Spessart Bahn or Riesa-Dresden is owned these will do Regional Services RE16 RB40 RE1 RE6 RE4.

    DB BR143/112

    Adds more dostos to the route including selected freight services with Existing DB Freight wagons and route-specific ones Zags Eanos Snps 719 & Hbbins

    DB BR 204/363 365 & G6

    The following routes are owned Rhein Ruhr Osten Ruhr-Sieg Nord Riesa Dresden and Main Spessart Bahn. These Rangierlokomotives will work the massive shunting yard which is Hagen Vorhalle with DB BR 280.5 & DLC DB BR294. For DB BR363 it comes in two versions Blue West Germany Deutsche Bundesbahn & Red Rallion Paint. With the Advent of Niddertalbahn Bad Vilbel to Glauburg-Stockheim 365 with ES50 Sugar Hoppers will run the route including the hump yard Hagen Vorhalle

    DB BR403/406

    If HMA is owned combined with Base route SKA these will operate ICE services on the line Between Bochum-Dortmund & Hagen-Dortmund via the Bochum Langendreer Junction. With TSW 3 being out now owners of Schnellfahrstrecke Hannover Würzburg the full name for Kassel Würzburg also Layers it's ICE3 here including the Trainbow version.

    DB BR155

    If RSN is owned these will give Falns coal wagons to the route in addition to pulling existing RSN freight wagons and route-specific ones being Zags Eanos Hbbins & Snps 719. Blue Colour version with the Grain freight car Bahnstrecke Bremen Oldenburg (BOB)

    DB BR 187

    Adds more freight traffic in or out of Hagen Vorhalle. Can pull Zags Eanos Hbbins & Snps 719 wood/steel pipe wagons complete with Brake selector.

    DB Baureihe 103
    Linke Rheinstrecke Koblenz Bingen Mainz Frankfurt am Main Hbf owners get to run them here as regular Intercity services or Museum train TEE Rheingold trips.

    Service Pattern
    From the vrr website journey planner which displays S-Bahn RB/RE Services from Bochum-Hagen/Dortmund. S1 services to Dortmund from Bochum take 22 minutes while RE1 RE6 services take 11 minutes to reach Dortmund Hbf. RB40/RE16 services to run Bochum to Hagen Hbf take 23-26 minutes. For the Hagen to Dortmund section of the route, S5 takes 32 Minutes to reach Dortmund from Hagen via Witten while RE4 takes 25 minutes to travel between Hagen Hbf & Dortmund Hbf since it uses the Bochum Langendreer Junction to bypass Witten. For the intercity services using the Deutsche Bahn Website Trip planner intercity & ICE trains, these take 10 minutes to go from Bochum hbf to Dortmund Hbf and 23-25 minutes to travel from Hagen Hbf to Dortmund Hbf via the Witten avoiding line the Bochum Langendreer Junction connection.

    Pictures
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    Hagen Vorhalle Rbf the main highlight of the route. Owners of RRO RSN HRR and This route or future OBB routes can use their shunting locomotives (In German Language SBB-CFF-FFS & DB Rangierlokomotive In Austrian German OBB terminology a Verschublokomotive) here. Also Main Spessart Bahn DB BR204.

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    Witten Hbf Major station for RB40 RE16 RE4 & S5 lines. North of the station line Splits to Dortmund Hbf & Bochum via the Bochum Langendreer junction fast line and the slow line to Dortmund Hbf used by S5

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    Dortmund Hbf Line eastern end of the Hagen Witten Dortmund Line the S5 route and also the Fast line RE4 ICE Line 42 & IC Line 55 via the Bochum Langendreer Junction. West of that station route continues to Bochum Hbf & Duisburg HBF as HRR.

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    Hagen Hbf terminus of the Hagen-Dortmund/Bochum Line. Route branches off towards Siegen via Finnentrop as Ruhr Sieg Nord & Düsseldorf Köln via Wuppertal the Rhein Ruhr Osten route.

    Videos

    Hagen to Essen via Witten und Bochum Langendreer



    Dortmund to Bochum then HRR Bochum Essen Duisburg



    RE4 Hagen to Dortmund via Witten Hagen Vorhalle Bochum Langendreer junction



    S5 Dortmund Hagen This video has Music Track



    Hagen Vorhalle Scenes



    Final Thoughts

    Hauptstrecke Bochum-Dortmund/Hagen is a route that will link the existing HRR RSN & RRO into an interconnected network that will fill in the gaps in the TSW2 route network between Hagen-Bochum & Dortmund. Finally solving the issue of running the freight services between Wuppertal Steinbeck RRO Bochum Ehrenfeld for the Netherlands via the HRR & Duisburg-Oberhausen-Arnhem Railway Dortmund & Finnentrop on RSN using the Rbf Hagen Vorhalle since those trains must be reassembled then proceed to their final destinations. Additionally, the line will offer diverse Rolling stock and opportunities for existing locomotives to work on including passenger Services avoiding Rbf Hagen Vorhalle. While owners of German freight trains including the locomotives for the route can use them on the big marshaling yard Hagen Vorhalle. The Advantage of Rbf Hagen Vorhalle is that the switches are automatically controlled by the dispatcher from entry and Hump exit tracks. If added the route can introduce a working Hump yard function and automatic announcements on trains including DB BR1440 Dostos using Ingo Ruff voices. Which will then be added to the other routes HMA RRO Main Hamburg-Lubeck Spessart Bahn Dresden Chemnitz RSN SKA HRR & Riesa-Dresden. This does not apply to BR462 by RRX since the automatic announcement voice is Anna from the Linguatec Voice Reader 15 programme and Flirt 3 Abellio Helga Bayertz also seen on HMA DB BR423. One more feature that Bochum-Dortmund/Hagen can introduce is the remote control shunter that way DB BR363 from RSN alongside DB BR280.5 & DLC DB BR294 are operated by the player from outside of the cab when working inside the Marshalling yard. Outside of the Yard normal cab operation. If made, this route ends the Majority of Traffic Red Deutsche Bahn trains by introducing multiple operators. To conclude this route can be sold as a bundle with HRR RRO RSN as Nahverkehr Hagen for the same price as a regular route.
    Route code wise if made this is DBS R7 XX B AC electric these are DB BR462 145 152 1440 S Hybrid Electric DB BR280.5 which is assigned to Rbf Hagen Vorhalle and local freight jobs. Alternating with RRO G6 DB BR363 RSN Riesa-Dresden and Tharandter Rampe. If made for TSW 3 Hagen/Bochum-Dortmund will have specialised tutorials for 280.5 the Hagen Vorhalle Hump Yard with 290 Dosto operation with 145 146.0. For the Training Centre tutorials, the Metro section is used for DB BR 1429 462 & 1440 DB BR 145 with 781 786 767.2 766.2 Dostos. With the Advent of TSW4 Voarlberg Bahn 280.5 can do the Shunting jobs alongside the 1063
     
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  2. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Here are extra pictures due to the DTG limit of 20 pictures and 5 videos
    DLC
    DB BR146.0
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    DB BR 294
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    DB BR 193

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    DB BR146.5
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    Layers
    MRCE 185.5 RRO Riesa-Dresden layers
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    DB BR422
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    DB BR155
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    DB BR 185.2 Railion
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    DB BR143
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    DB BR 112

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    DB BR187
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    DB BR 204 DDR DR V100
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    DB BR363 Blue and Railion Red from RSN Dresden Chemnitz & Riesa-Dresden
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    Pictures
    Bochum Hbf Linking station for HRR and the Ehrenfeld Freightyard for HRR Freight services to Hagen Vorhalle
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    Videos Train announcement

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    RE16 Helga Bayertz also fits HMA 423

    S5 Hagen Dortmund is done by Ingo Ruff

    RE1 DB Ingo Ruff version applies to this route HRR & SKA Dostos. S-Bahn Dresden too. Niddertalbahn RMV Frankfurt am Main Mainz Wiesbaden Clay Barracks S8/S9 lines DB BR420/423/430

    RE1 RRX version Anna applies to HRR SKA & Bochum-Dortmund/Hagen BR462
     
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    Woah buddy that seems a little too large lol. I like the idea of a mega route but it would take up a lot of memory and will likely have a lot of crashes with all that rolling stock! It would be like BML on gen 8 consoles but much worse. And there might be some licensing issues with the BR 1440 (that's why DTG didn't include it in RRO)
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    So you mean making cutting some of the rolling stock down making it DB BR152 280.4 462 & 1440 if DTG solves the licence issue as standard trains. That way route resembles Riesa Dresden with both Slow line Dortmund Witten Hagen Vorhalle Line and the fast line being Hagen Vorhalle Witten Bochum Dortmund.
     
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    maybe it would work
     
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    Just out of curiousness, where do you get the map? It strangely shows the Holzminden-Scherfede route, which was closed in the early 80s, so about 40 years ago...
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    It's actually from the Bergisch-Märkische Railway German and English Wikipedia articles. BME was the original private Railway company that built the following routes Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen RRO SKA HRR & RSN. Including This Railway line Bochum-Hagen/Dortmund via Witten exception being Dortmund Hagen via Bochum Langendreer Junction and Witten/Wetter built in 1988 by German Federal railways Deutsche Bundesbahn.
     
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    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    Great idea, I would buy it
     
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    The new features are the Ingo Ruff announcement something Missing on the Doppelstockwagen in game on RRO RE4 Aachen Mönchengladbach Düsseldorf Wuppertal Hagen Witten Dortmund RE7 Münster Krefeld and RB16. Followed by the ability to drive RB16 from Ruhr-Sieg Nord to Essen Hbf and complete freight operations
     
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    You missed the ice 2 on the ice line 10 from Düsseldorf via Duisburg, essen, Bochum, Dortmund and Hamm.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for telling me about it. The reason why I went with DB BR 412 ICE 4 was that ICE 2 DB BR 402 is going to be replaced by ICE 4 from 2021 onwards. So you're telling me DLC should be ICE 2 DB BR402 & DB BR 412 ICE 4
     
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    Amazing suggestion! We could get a lot of new rolling stock in the game with that route! I deff would love to see that in TSW
     
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    Yes but there the ice 2 are still driving the most services, because the production of the ice 4 is taking long. And in my opinion the ice 2 is the far more interesting train. Keep in mind that on this route the 7part ice 4 is driving. ^^
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Definitely going to affect Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen due to Doppelstockwagen 781 786 766.2 & DB BR442 getting Ingo Ruff voices Rhein-Ruhr Osten DB BR422 & 1440 getting Ingo Ruff announcements. Choose BR462 you have a different announcer Anna basically the German equivalent to bakerloo line Emma Clarke LIRR M9 Velinda Mitchell.
     
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    DTG needs to make defnetly a big big route with a lot of lines to ride
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    I agree and for the DB BR145 it can do the job of DB BR143 at a slightly increased speed when pulling Doppelstockwagen 781 786 766.2 140 kmh 85 mph instead of 120 kmh 75 mph on Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen Main Spessart Bahn. This one will affect all German routes by giving them Ingo Ruff announcements Flirt 3 uses Helga Bayertz like Hauptstrecke München-Augsburg DB BR 423 S3 line. Can open ÖBB route announcements Chris Lohner SNCF Simone Herault LGV if DTG Experiments with Train announcements on this route. Furthermore a working Hump yard due to Hagen Vorhalle equipped with one
     
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    defently
     
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    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    Since merging is now possible, why not merge them them together, even the Cologne-Wupperthal suggestion from jolojonasgames https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...nal-express-talent-2.35861/page-4#post-467794, and the suggestion from Perks390 https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/köln-to-duisburg-via-düsseldorf.33933/#post-261868, and the connection to Dortmund from kosti.nuuja https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/cologne-dortmund-solingen-branch-for-tsw2.43614/ would perfectly fit in and would make a nice Rhein-Ruhr Train network.
    Here is a map how the missing links and maybe other routes that could also be added to get a nice railway system here in Germany, including Belgium and the Netherlands
    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...an-route-suggestions.36497/page-4#post-493174
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    A network bundle then and for this route Bochum/Dortmund/Witten-Hagen it can merge with Duisburg Oberhausen Arnhem line with HRR linking the two routes. Reason is that Rotterdam bound Freight sometimes start at Hagen Vorhalle with a Wuppertal Steinbeck train giving a Finnentrop Rotterdam freight a few wagons
     
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