Map Of German, Dutch, Swiss And Austrian Route Suggestions

I added the Leipzig - Riesa suggestion from kosti.nuuja to the map for now. Also made sure the proportions between Dresden and Leipzig were a little better. I might still make a Leipzig - Riesa suggestion later .

 

Can you please add my Schwarzwald Bahn Suggestion to your Map, that would be really nice https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/schwarzwald-bahn.39098/

 

Will do as soon as possible.

 

Thanks

 

It's in now . Let me know if there are any issues with it, as I wasn't sure exactly from where to where you wanted to see it.

 

Has this one been added to the map?
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/apeldoorn-dieren-heritage-line.39794/

 

New suggestion
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/hauptstrecke-berlin-wittenberg.39915/#post-307297

 

These two are now in. Added a new category for heritage lines .

 

There Has already Been a discussion on nuremberg - munich highspeed Route which is not even listed

 

The Lötschbergbahn from Spiez to Brig

 

Do you have links?

As for Nürnberg - München, not all routes are currently shown, that's correct. I'll add missing routes to the map if there is a suggestion for them.

 

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/schnellfahrstrecke-nürnberg-münchen-suggestion.38069/ here is my Nürnberg München Suggestion, it would be nice if you could add it to you route, best regards!

 

Consider it done .

 

Thanks

 

Pardon, here you go:
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/another-swiss-masterpiece-the-lötschberg.16809/

 

Added it! Glad to see more Swiss suggestions . Switzerland would be a really fun country to see in TSW, and is second only to the Netherlands on my wishlist (being closely followed by Austria).

 

Could you please add the full Eifelstrecke route from Cologne to Trier? That would be really nice https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/eifelbahn-cologne-trier-suggestion.38019/ here is the suggestion, best regards!

 

I'll do it together with my next suggestion, which should hopefully be tomorrow .

 

Thank you, have a nice day!

 

It's in, aswell as my new Den Haag - Breda suggestion.

 

Hi there, I´d like to see my suggestion Donautalbahn: Tuttlingen - Herbertingen included on the map, too. Thanks in advance!

 

It's on the map now .

 

All right, here's three in one- and all three already exist in TS:

1) Munchen - Garmisch-Partenkirchen
2) Mittenwaldbahn (G-P - Innsbruck)
3) Main line to Tyrol, Munchen - Kufstein - Innsbruck

 

Hi, jolojonasgames it is possible to see my suggestion on your map? Nuremberg - Erlangen - Bamberg
Regards The_Jaeger

 

Yes, I'll do that tomorrow .

 

It's in, also changed the status of Hamburg - Lübeck.

 

Hey jolojonasgames
Earlier I posted a suggestion which I have been working on for far too long, only to have to shave off half of what I had originally written due to a silly maximum character amount of 25.000 (silly if you'd as me )

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...rdam-den-haag-with-lengthy-explanation.40924/

Would it be alright if, after you've reviewed it of course, it was added to your comprehensive map of suggestions?

 

Tell me something

I'll add it tomorrow, when I'm less sleepy .

 

Alright, thank you for your consideration at least
Yeah, sleepiness tends to occur this time of day/night doesn't it?

 

It is in now .

 

Nice, thank you

You know, I just noticed, my suggestion did connect yours as well as Rotterdam to the rest, at least to the German border.
Now with Rotterdam we should also maybe make a suggestion for the freight lovers among us, for Port of Rotterdam to Zevenaar or Maastricht, were a LOT of freight is being moved by rail
It would basically be our own, though far less hilly, Main Spessart Bahn

 

Yeah, the port of rotterdam is a great place to start a freight route. My Den Haag - Breda suggestion already runs along Kijfhoek, and sees many freight transports south to Belgium. My Enschede - Amersfoort suggestion also sees large amounts of freight.

I briefly considered the Betuweroute, but that is just straigt line A - B freight running under ETCS controll al the time, so that wouldn't really be interesting IMO.

After a Dutch passenger route gets added into the game, a freight focussed route could be fun, but I just haven't found a route that is both freight focussed and interesting yet, as on the Dutch rail network freight is usually way less than passenger traffic, which means that any Dutch route would be passenger focussed with freight being secondary (and potentially a DLC for a route, and not part of the standard route).

However as soon as freight locos are available for Dutch routes (and E186, BR 189, BR 193 or 1600/1800 series), those trains could layer onto most other Dutch routes.

 

Well actually, I may have a solution for that.
It may not be as freight focused as anything near the Port of Rotterdam would be, and it does have some drawbacks, but there is of course the VAM-berg near Wijster in a hypothetical route Zwolle - Assen.
It's still limited freight operations, although of course for gameplay purposes that could of course be exaggerated a bit.
The route would be 75km long, but the largest drawback would be that you're driving long stretches without a station and there's so few over such a long distance, even if you went with the entire real life route to Groningen.

Zwolle - 27km - Meppel - 20km - Hoogeveen - 14km - Beilen - 15km - Assen - 22km - Haren - 4km - Europapark - 1,5km - Groningen
With the VAM-berg between Hoogeveen and Beilen and a large maintenance facility at Haren.
So the freight network would be between Zwolle and Wijster, which is about 55km for most freight trains.
The entire route would only have 8 stations over approx. 103km with 3 stretches of over 20km,

I mean, I'd buy it personally, also because although raised in Gouda, I currently live alongside that route, and, my house would be modeled in-game!
There will definitely be people that would absolutely love it, but I fear for many it would be the archetype of why they would not want Dutch routes. Long flat stretches of nothing with very little to do in the meantime.

Also, there is also the problem with this route that Dovetail may want to stay away from controversy.
Not that nothing controversial ever happened on other routes that ARE in the game, like the train crash at London Paddington, but this route is of course also the one where the Wijster trein hijacking happened, which may be a sensitive subject as it's still a living memory for some local folks, and one way to increase freight traffic on the simulated route would be to set it back in time a little bit, although not as far as the events at Wijster, but still.

But as I said, this route does have above average amounts of freight traffic running through, and there definitely would be some people that'd still love it, including me

 

Really excellent idea and also at Groningen there is a line to Germany towards Leer but the bridge is taken out of service since 2015. Although Groningen Leer can merge with Bremen Oldenburg to become Hollandstrecke Bremen Groningen HBG by building the missing Oldenburg Leer section via Bad Zwischenahn. Proper name is actually Wunderline Bremen Groningen via Oldenburg Bad Zwischenahn
The Video is Trainviking on Leer Groningen Railway line

 

SBB Gotthard Railway Zürich - Chiasso, SOB Luzern - Romanshorn, RhB Albula and Bernina Railway, RhB Landquart - Fillisur, BLS Bern - Brig - Domodossola, BLS Bern - Neuchâtel, ZB Brienz - Meiringen - Luzern, LSE Luzern - Engelberg (in 2010), MGB Zermatt - Brig, Brig - Disentis, RhB Disentis - Chur, SBB Chur - Zürich.
some wonderful Swiss Railways. Together with new modern and old legacy rolling stock.

 

For your BLS Bern to Domodossola simplon tunnel route did you include 2007 build Lötschberg Base Tunnel and for Zurich to Milan via Chiasso did you include Gotthard Base Tunnel.
For my Austrian suggestion I have Schnellfahrstrecke Wien St Polten which is part of the Westbahn Salzburg Wien Hbf route. My Austrian suggestion will give ÖBB Traffic to RRO Main Spessart Bahn Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen and Haputstrecke München Augsburg

 

You could add my Suggestions for the Erfttalbahn (Bad Münstereifel - Euskichen) and the Voreifelbahn (Bonn - Euskirchen.

 

I'll look into it after the weekend

 

They're in now .

I also cleaned up the original post a bit. I replaced the old suggestion for route mergers by a new one for route merger packs, aswell as removing some self promotion that no longer has a place in this post, as it can always be seen in my signature below anyways.

 

Are there new information what German route will be added after Riesa-Dresden? Or will there come any new country's after Rush Hour soon?

 

No, we don't know anything for after Rush Hour (except the Cornwall route and a few loco add-ons) yet. I'm really hoping we'll see some mergers (Mainly the Ruhr area with SKA, Köln - Duisburg, Köln Wuppertal, HRR, RRO and RSN and Rapid Transit + Leipzig - Riesa + Riesa - Dresden) and of course the Netherlands. On top of that seeing some Austrian routes (such as the Arlbergbahn) and Swiss routes (such as Basel - Bern) would be great. Seeing some German routes from the '90s is also a desire I have had for a while now (hence my Main-Weser-Bahn and Saalebahn in the '90s suggestions).

We do know Spirit of Steam is coming someday, and there are some routes (such as the Preußische Ostbahn and the Riviera Line in the fifties) that I hope will feature in that pack.

(what I basically mean is that I hope all my suggested routes will be in game soon, an unrealistic dream, but a dream nonetheless )

But we'll see, hopefully there will be an increase in content (and it's diversity) due to 3rd parties soon.

 

Good point and I have one Salzburg Linz St Polten Wien Westbahn. That one is an existing TS 21 route broken down into Salzburg Wels which is part of the Freilassing-Linz route extension. The Missing part in TS21 Westbahn is Linz St Polten Wien Hbf. On my Suggestion the Westbahn there are ÖBB1293 173-200 locomotives capable of running 1.5kv DC ATB EG NG ETCS found on the Amsterdam Arnhem Duisburg route. The Austrian routes can be done by DTG and RSSLO. Let's wait and see if Rivet Games can do an Austrian route but if they make one it's going to be bugged like ARL and Isle of Wight.

 

You could also add on the map my Eifel-Bördebahn Suggestion

 

Consider it done

 

Not familiar at all with German routes, but I'd vote for anything that uses the Hannover-Kassel leg, as that goes closest to my grandmother's village.

 

Now you can also add my Suggestion for the Erftbahn ^^ xD

 

Could you add my Suggestion for the Ahrtalbahn?

 

Sorry for the long wait, I've been very busy lately, but they're in now.

P.S., If you plan on making multiple suggestions in quick succesion in the future, I'd appreciate if you'd wait until you have done all of them before requesting their addition, as that does save me a bit of work. Thanks in advance .

 

I'm sorry that was Not intentional xD Of was very spontan

 

Can't say I've never had that