Master List Of Japanese Route Suggestions / Thread For Discussions [outdated]

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  1. Commiee

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    This thread is now outdated. The new thread for the master list can be found here.


    I searched through all suggestions of Japanese routes (using search query 'japan' - for both thread titles and post content - in the Suggestions section of the forums), in order to create this thread with three goals:
    1. Make it easier for Japanese rail enthusiasts to look up if a route has been suggested already, so they can contribute to/boost already existing suggestions (you can also vote for Japan in this poll and this poll about what new country the playerbase would like to see added in TSW2)
    2. Make it easier for devs - whether DTG or third party - to see which suggestions for Japanese routes have been made, which ones are the most popular, and how the most popular Japanese routes compare to suggestions for routes in other locations
    3. Provide a thread where general discussions on Japanese routes/involving enthusiasts of Japanese rail can take place
    I will update this thread every time I see a new suggestion thread for a Japanese route, and every time I notice changes in the number of likes for existing threads (I will be checking the likes once a week on Sundays). If I miss any suggestion thread/details, please let me know and I will edit the list. The date of the most recent update of this post is indicated at the bottom of it.

    Only threads with specific route suggestions have been added (not 'routes from Japan please', etc.). Threads with the same number of likes are arranged in alphabetic order. Asterisks (*) indicate threads that have also been suggested by other people - from duplicate proposals, the threads with fewer likes are listed at the bottom.

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    Tōkaidō Shinkansen*, suggested by aDoge on 10 May 2019 - 31 likes
    Connecting: Shizuoka - Odawara
    Distance: 91 km (56 mi)
    Rolling stock: N700, N700A series (passenger)


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    Chūō Rapid Line, suggested by justin10 on 08 September 2020 - 29 likes
    Connecting: Tokyo Station - Takao Station
    Distance: 50 km (30 mi)
    Rolling stock: E233, E231, E353 series (passenger)


    Odakyu Line**, suggested by SD40Australia-Daniel on 28 October 2018 - 29 likes
    Connecting: Shinjuku - Hakone/Enoshima

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    Yamanote Line***, suggested by LativaBoy on 25 January 2020 - 22 likes
    Connecting: Shinagawa loop
    Distance: 34 km (21 mi)
    Rolling stock: E231, E235 series (passenger)


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    Yokohama Line, suggested by Dinosbacsi on 09 April 2021 - 20 likes
    Connecting: Yokohama - Hachiōji
    Distance: 42 km (26 mi)
    Rolling stock: 103, 205, E233 series (passenger)


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    Chūō East Line, suggested by NorthRail1 on 04 March 2018 - 18 likes
    Connecting: Tokyo/Kōfu - Shiojiri
    Distance: 134/222 km (83/137 mi)
    Rolling stock: 211, E257, E351 series (passenger), EH200 (freight)


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    Akita Shinkansen, suggested by fabdiva on 11 September 2020 - 13 likes
    Connecting: Morioka - Akita
    Distance: 130 km (80 mi)
    Rolling stock: 701, E5, E6 series (passenger)


    Chūō West Line, suggested by Commiee on 30 April 2021 - 13 likes
    Connecting: Nakatsugawa - Nagoya
    Distance: 80 km (50 mi)
    Rolling stock: 211, 213, 311, 313, 383 series (passenger), EF64, EH200 (freight)


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    Haruka Limited Express, suggested by Commiee on 02 May 2021 - 12 likes
    Connecting: Kansai Airport - Kyōto Station
    Distance: 100 km (62 mi)
    Rolling stock: 271, 281 series (passenger)


    Shinonoi Line
    , suggested by Commiee on 09 April 2021 - 12 likes
    Connecting: Nagano - Shiojiri
    Distance: 65 km (40 mi)
    Rolling stock: 115, 123, 211, 313, 381, 383, E127, E257, E351 series (passenger)


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    Chūō-Sōbu Line, suggested by jackmiller1234567890 on 23 April 2020 - 11 likes
    Connecting: Mitaka Station - Chiba Station
    Distance: 60 km (37 mi)
    Rolling stock: E231 series (passenger)


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    Kyūshū Shinkansen, suggested by Jo_Kim on 07 March 2021 - 10 likes
    Connecting: Hakata - Kumamoto
    Distance: 98 km (60 mi)
    Rolling stock: 800, N700 series (passenger)


    Nara Line, suggested by Articuno on 11 November 2020 - 10 likes
    Connecting: Kyōto - Nara
    Distance: 35 km (21 mi)
    Rolling stock: 103, 205, 221 series (passenger)


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    Keihin-Tōhoku Line, suggested by fabdiva on 04 May 2020 - 9 likes
    Connecting: Omiya - Yokohama
    Distance: 98 km (60 mi)
    Rolling stock: E233 series (passenger)

    Keiyō Line, suggested by Commiee on 15 September 2021 - 9 likes
    Connecting: Tokyo - Soga
    Distance: 43 km (27 mi)
    Rolling stock: 209-500, E233-5000, E257-5000, 103, 165, 183, 201, 205, 255, E257-500, E331 series (passenger)


    Shin'etsu Main Line
    ****, suggested by fabdiva on 08 December 2020 - 9 likes
    Connecting: Takasaki - Nagano
    Distance: 112 km (69 mi)
    Rolling stock: 489 series (passenger), EF63 (freight)


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    Nozomi Shinkansen, suggested by Drawyah on 13 June 2020 - 8 likes
    Connecting: Shin-Kobe - Shin-Osaka/Kyōto
    Distance: 31 km/85 km (19 mi/52 mi)


    Tokyo Metro Tozai Line, suggested by ZeenozPlays on 01 August 2021 - 8 likes
    Connecting: Nakano - Nishi-Funabashi
    Distance: 30 km (18 mi)
    Rolling stock: 05 series, 07 series, 2000 series, 15000 series, E231 series (passenger)


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    Okayama-Osaka Shinkansen, suggested by SD40Australia-Daniel on 27 October 2018 - 7 likes
    Connecting: Okayama - Osaka

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    Hakodate Main Line, suggested by Blartthaniel42 on 30 October 2020 - 6 likes
    Connecting: Sapporo - Asahikawa
    Distance: 136 km (84 mi)
    Rolling stock: 731, 733, 735 series, KiHa 183, KiHa 261, KiHa 281 (passenger), DD 51, DF 200, EH 500 (freight)


    Hokuriku Shinkansen, suggested by John Murphy on 05 April 2018 - 6 likes
    Connecting: Tokyo - Nagano
    Distance: 226 km (140 mi)
    Rolling stock: E2, E7/W7 series (passenger)


    Keio Inokashira Line, suggested by fabdiva on 02 July 2020 - 6 likes
    Connecting: Shibuya - Kichijōji
    Distance: 12 km (7 mi)
    Rolling stock: 1000 series (passenger)


    Saikyō Line*****, suggested by BigMountain555 on 28 March 2020 - 6 likes
    Connecting: Ikebukuro - Saitama
    Distance: 37 km (22 mi)


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    Musashino Line, suggested by jackmiller1234567890 on 23 September 2021 - 5 likes
    Connecting: Tsurumi Station - Nishi-Funabashi Station
    Distance: 71.8 km (44.6 mi)
    Rolling stock: 209-0, E231-500, E231-900, series (passenger), EF64, EF65, EF66, EF81, EF200, EF210, EH200, EH500, DE10, HD300 (freight)


    Tsukuba Express
    , suggested by fabdiva on 07 May 2020 - 5 likes
    Connecting: Akihabara Station - Tsukuba Station
    Distance: 60 km (37 mi)
    Rolling stock: TX-1000, TX-2000, TX-3000 series (passenger)


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    Maizuru Limited Express, suggested by Commiee on 26 September 2021 - 4 likes
    Connecting: Kyōto - Higashi-Maizuru
    Distance: 98 km (60 mi)
    Rolling stock: 287, 183, KTR8000 series (passenger)


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    Chiba Urban Suspended Monorail, suggested by jackmiller1234567890 on 25 April 2020 - 3 likes
    Connecting: Chiba-Mintao - Chishirodai
    Distance: 15 km (9 mi)
    Rolling stock: 1000 series (passenger)


    Hidaka Main Line, suggested by MrSouthernDriver on 03 July 2021 - 3 likes
    Connecting: Tomakomai - Hidaka-Mombetsu
    Distance: 51 km (31 mi)
    Rolling stock: KiHa 130 (passenger)

    Meitetsu Tokoname Line, suggested by driverwoods#1787 on 03 May 2021 - 3 likes
    Connecting: Jingū-mae Station - Chubu Airport
    Distance: 33 km (20 mi)
    Rolling stock: 1700, 2000, 3500 series (passenger)


    Nagano Electric Railway, suggested by dcr raptor on 31 August 2021 - 3 likes
    Connecting: Nagano - Yamanouchi
    Distance: 33 km (20 mi)
    Rolling stock: 1000, 2100, 3000, 3500, 3600, 8500 series (passenger)


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    JR Kōbe Line, suggested by jackmiller1234567890 on 23 September 2021 - 2 likes
    Connecting: Osaka Station - Himeji Station
    Distance: 88 km (54 mi)
    Rolling stock: 207, 221, 223-1000/2000/6000, 225-0/100, 321 (passenger)


    Tōhoku Shinkansen******, suggested by kosti.nuuja on 09 February 2021 - 2 likes
    Connecting: Tokyo - Sendai
    Distance: 350 km (217 mi)
    Rolling stock: E2, E3, E5/H5, E6 series (passenger)


    Tokyo Monorail, suggested by jackmiller1234567890 on 23 April 2020 - 2 likes
    Connecting: Hamamatsuchō Station - Haneda Airport
    Distance: 18 km (11 mi)
    Rolling stock: 1000, 2000, 10000 series (passenger)


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    Hisatsu Line, suggested by mlouie100 on 14 June 2019 - 1 like

    Narita Line, suggested by Nyseu85 on 24 August 2019 - 1 like
    Rolling stock: 209, E217, E231, E257, E259 series (passenger)

    Shonan Monorail, suggested by joseph.gov.uk on 01 February 2021 - 1 like

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    *also suggested by merls#6456 on 19 February 2021 - 12 likes / also suggested by eric#9587 on 26 January 2021 - 8 likes
    **also suggested by mlouie100 on 01 June 2019 - 3 likes
    ***also suggested by VägAssLasse on 05 September 2020 - 7 likes
    ****also suggested by maxthum on 09 June 2021 - 7 likes / also suggested by alexander.s on 13 September 2021 - 5 likes
    *****also suggested by jackmiller1234567890 on 27 April 2020 - 4 likes
    ******also suggested by Nyseu85 on 30 March 2020 - 1 like

    Thanks to jamesbaby286 for adding more threads I had missed in my search.
     
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  2. jamesbaby286

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    [These have now been added above]
    Here are some more threads:
     
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  3. Commiee

    Commiee Well-Known Member

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    Thank you. I added the threads that weren't already in the list (some were under different names). The list has now expanded from 18 to 27 entries.
     
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    Purno Well-Known Member

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    I'm throwing in a general comment here to support any Japanese commuter route. Although I've probably already upvoted a few specific route suggestion with a 'like', I'm happy to see any Japanese commuter route.
     
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    Didn't even know there are that many japanese route suggestions on the forums! Nice to see, hopefully it reaches them at one point and we will get japanese content in the future.

    Personally I would really prefer a commuter route with something like the 103, 201 or 205 series, or the 209 or E231 series if we would to go with something more modern. But for starters I would buy anything japanese, even if it's a rural mountain route or a high speed route.
     
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    There's these 2 Rail Away episodes that are in Japan, and both routes if you look into them would be great!

    Mind you, Rail Away is Dutch, and so these videos are spoken Dutch, and only a summary of the full episodes that aren't available online, as far as I know, but you can still see why I think they'd be beautiful.

    (hitoyoshi - Aso)

    (Nagasaki - Sasebo)

    They're both more functional as well as being popular sightseeing route, and I think they'd fit into the game perfectly!
     
  8. Commiee

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    I need to point out that the list above is of suggestion threads - not posts - and also I can only add one thread for one route, to be able to count likes for individual routes.
     
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    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    I've just noticed that there is no suggestion thread for the Yokohama Line yet? Even though I think it could also be a pretty good candidate for TSW. Maybe I should try making one for it.
     
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    If you think it's a good suggestion, then yes, please do create a suggestion topic for it. Make it look as good as you can to convince everyone it's a good idea. I'll probably throw in a "like" when I see the topic :P
     
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    Ideally the production of Japanese routes should follow a specific order to help scale the ambition of the route with the amount of time that is able to be given to constructing a library of scenery assets. Scenery assets that can be made for low density towns can still be found in the densest of cities, not often the other way around.

    The order I feel would be best for Japan is this:

    Stage 1: Rural route between towns.
    To create a majority of foliage, cars, roads, signage, street features, low density houses, and low density businesses. Lots of green space which means time can be taken on building a familiarity with Japan as well as making sure to nail those core assets like roads and cars.
    Examples of this are the Hidaka Main Line, Tadami Line, and Story of Forest Rail routes on Train Simulator by Union Workshop.

    Stage 2: Regional centre/Major city outskirts route.
    To further expand low density house and business scenery set. To create medium density house and business scenery.
    What I have specifically in mind here is something like a line running in and/or out of centre with the density of town/city like Matsumoto, Nagasaki, or Niigata, or running along the outskirts of a city with the density of Kyoto or Nagoya.
    The Wakayama & Sakurai Lines on Train Simulator by Union Workshop has a density somewhere between Step 1 and Step 2. It's not quite as totally rural, but the largest urban centre on the route at Takada Station, is still almost only low density.

    Stage 3: Regional city/Major city suburbs.
    To slightly expand low density house and business scenery set. To further expand medium density house and business scenery set. To begin creating some high density assets.
    No Train Simulator examples. This would be a route featuring a city to the scale of Hiroshima, Nagoya, or Kyoto. Or a route running through the suburbs of major cities like Toyko, Osaka, Yokohama, Sendai, Fukuoka.

    Stage 4: Major city.
    To slightly expand medium density house and business scenery set. To heavily expand high density house and business scenery set.
    No Train Simulator examples. This would be a route featuring the dense centres of the major cities of Japan. Toyko, Osaka, Yokohama, Sendai, Fukuoka.
    Stages 1 and 2, and 3 and 4 can be combined depending on how direct the route is in towards, and out of the densest part of the featured population centre.
    For example; In Sendai the Tohoku Shinkansen and conventional Tohoku Main Line/Joban Line/Senzan Line routes only briefly run against the dense city centre for a short section with Sendai Station being on the very edge of the central district. The vast majority of its route through the city is amongst medium/low density suburbs.

    These stages are not necessarily something that can apply everywhere. For example, unlike Japan, in Australia we almost universally have either low density or high density. Medium density does appear but the transition between low and high isn't gradual like it is in Japan.
     
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    I think there's one question of gradually collecting assets, and then there's the question of performance impact of urban hubs like Shinjuku and even smaller stations/urban locations. I don't know how much the devs have had to strip down the routes we have in the sim compared to their IRL state. If they have to remove so much of the buildings/infrastructure/props that a busy hub would start looking like a medium-size suburban station, that would mean that either they aren't going to want to do it, or it will look not much like the IRL location once done. That's not to say I wouldn't want to still have it though.
     
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    I made a slight change to the list for the sake of having a cleaner-looking list: instead of listing duplicate suggestions together, I added asterisks to routes that have more than one thread proposal and moved the threads with fewer likes as footnotes to the bottom of the post. If they receive equal/more likes than the most-liked threads, I will move them up to the main list again.

    I was also doing further search for threads to make sure we would have all suggestions represented here, and came across this post in the process. Just keeps the hope of seeing Japanese content one day alive.
     
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    Added my new suggestion, the Chūō West Line section between Nakatsugawa - Nagoya.
     
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    I need some feedback: been thinking about making a suggestion for the Haruka Limited Express, which connects the airport to Kyoto through running on a number of lines. It (1) offers awesome sights, running over the sea for the first five minutes after leaving the airport and then has beautiful views of cities for passengers, and (2) features the 281 Series, which I think is a great-looking train and also has a unique second livery themed on Hello Kitty.

    But the journey is one hour and 25 minutes long, and the limited express only stops twice between the start and end stations.

    So: (1) do you think that would be an interesting experience gameplay-wise, and (2) do you remember other examples from TS Classic or TSW2 where an hour+ route only had a few stops in between? I'm trying to gauge how likely it would be to be made, all other factors being equal.
     
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    I think the key is not so much the journey time but the length of the route. Anything over 60 or 70 miles is going to be pushing it.
    In terms of long routes, well WCML Over Shap only really had three stations between Carlisle and Preston (Penrith, Oxenholme and Lancaster) so not unprecedented by any means.
     
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    How long was that in terms of journey time?
    The one I mentioned is about 62 miles so should be alright in that sense, but knowing if scenarios with 1.5 hours of driving have been made before would help further.
     
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    Between 80 and 90 minutes depending on the stopping pattern.
     
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    Well most of the high-speed routes currently in TSW also feature only a few stops, don't they?
     
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    Apart from SEHS I guess. But I checked other routes for both distance and journey time and sounds like the Haruka would fit in just fine.
     
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    How about my Suggestion the Meitetsu Tonkoname Line in Nagoya which has two distinct sections the 1910s and a Modern Mid 2000s elevated portion towards Chubu Airport. That one is an airport commuter rail like the Kansai Region Haruka.
     
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    I added brief info on each route to the entries. Some threads had no info on stations/distance/rolling stock - if their authors want to update their threads with the details, I will also do the same in the list.

    The addition of the lines meant the ranking numbers were kind of lost in the wall of text, so I added colour coding. Top three suggestions, suggestions with between 10-19 likes, and suggestions between 1-9 likes now have different colours.
     
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    I’ve always been interested in Japanese routes so I’d always buy one if DTG release a route - my favourite japanese route is the one where they send food in on bullet trains in restaurants
     
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    Me too and I can tell you they're going to be different from an NS Dutch route during rush hours you're basically forced to use the standing room only. My Mum's sister usually takes her local JR West commuter line in the Kyoto area one of those is Haruka
     
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    What I’d like to see in Japan is a route with a mixture of high speed and local passenger services and some freight. Basically a jack of all trades route like GWR or Peninsula Corridor.
     
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    A Japanese route that borrows the GWR train line up might be a nice way to introduce a Japanese train line to tsw2.
    1.One of japans high speed trains
    2.One of japans commuter trains
    3.One of japans freight trains(with one loco and at least 4 freightcar types)
    This would be a good way to give people a sample of what types of rail operations are found in japan.
    Of the routes listed above there where a few possibility among them for this type of route.
     
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    At most you would have at least 2 freight car types...

    -A KOKI class container flat car with the 12ft containers that Japan uses.
    JNR_Koki_50000_011.jpg

    -A TAKI class tank car if applicable.
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    -A HOKI class hopper if applicable.
    Hoki-10032.jpg

    -If the era is set pre-1985, we may also get the specialized KoKiFu 50000 class flat car. (Or any other specialized Fu class freight cars)
    Kokifu50000_59000.jpg
     
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    Is that even possible? So far the only Japanese high speed stuff I've seen are dedicated Shinkansen lines.
     
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    Shinkansen and locals mixing does happen on the Akita and Yamagata Shinkansen - these are Mini-Shinkansen and run on upgraded existing lines to serve destinations off the high speed lines. The track is rebuilt to standard gauge or mixed gauge with standard gauge 701 units providing the local service.

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    Did anyone create a suggestion for such a route? So far most suggestions I've seen limit themselves to either a dedicated Shinkansen line, or a 'dedicated' commuter line. A route which combines both might attract both groups of enthousiasts.
     
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    I did one for the Akita a while back

    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/akita-shinkansen.27075/
     
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    There are plenty of express trains in Japan that are not Shinkansen. Obviously Shinkansens are the fastest and most well known, but Japan is also full of "limited express" trains of various shapes and sizes, and they often run on regular track.alongside the standard commuter trains.

    Just think about trains like the Azusa Express, for example.
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    Or the JR381 series, which is a well known and widely used train as well.
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    There are many that could classify as "high speed" compared to the regular boxy EMUs.
     
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    I did see your proposal and here's the problem with E6 Shinkansen and the Nagoya Municipal Railway 2000 Series towards Chubu Airport is that both are tilting trains therefore added in game without the tilting mechanism. yet in reality both have tilting mechanism to solve the missing tilting train feature of E6 H5 E5 & N700 Supreme bullet trains alongside Nagoya Municipal Railway 2000 series either an American or european route with tilting trains must be added first then their tilting mechanism implanted onto Japanese tilting trains. That includes Your Akita bullet train route and my Nagoya Municipal Railway Chubu Airport route .
     
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    The real challenge might not be the trains themselves it more likely getting a license to use any of them.
     
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    I doubt implementing a tilting mechanism would be much of a challenge for DTG. I mean we tend to joke a lot about how they can't do basic things right, but that's mostly up for the lack of time to implement certain details.

    But to make the train tilt in curves would be a pretty easy thing to implement. You don't need extra modelling or anything for that. Could probably be simulated through Simugraph pretty easily.

    So as Shino said as well, making a tilting train would probably be the least of their problems with making a japanese route. Getting licence, reference info and actually making brand new Japanese themed assets (tracks, signals, buildings, scenery objects) would be their main challenges. But boy I hope they will get to it at one point.
     
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    Isn't the Tilt only 1 degree anyway?
     
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    Not that this is a japan only problem but earthquakes tend to be a slightly more annoying and negative effecting there causing rail shutdowns whenever one happens,it would be quite interesting if there effects where factored into train operations.
     
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    Why would a train simulator simulate earthquakes, lol?
     
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    It's been a bit of time but this is still worth answering.

    Put simply; Because it is an event that is essentially unique to Japan and regular enough event that every driver will likely be driving when an earthquake happens a handful of times per year.

    Unlike many random occurrences you'd expect in other countries, if you were to make a scenario with an Earthquake it would not have to end the game then and there. In many situations the drivers can continue their service after an earthquake.

    In Japan earthquakes are so commonly dealt with that this is a list of how drivers deal with a variety of earthquakes after their train is brought to an automatic stop by the early detection systems:
    1. If there was no or light shaking; The driver gets confirmation on how to proceed, once they get an all clear they reset the brakes, and continue the service as normal. The line will get a full check after the last service of the night if the shaking was light.
    2. If there was a light-moderate amount of shaking; The driver gets confirmation on how to proceed, they are told to proceed with a maximum speed that is either a certain km/h limit or a percentage of line speed, they continue the service under these restrictions. This limit may apply only to certain areas of a line or its entirety depending on its length and will last until track conditions that can support full speed can be ensured. Often on busy lines this means the rest of the day until full checks can be made at night.
    3. If there was a moderate-heavy amount of shaking; The driver gets confirmation on how to proceed, they are told to proceed with a very limited maximum speed until the next station to deboard their train.
    4. If there was a moderate-heavy amount of shaking; The driver gets confirmation on how to proceed, they are told either keep their train in place, and wait for support services in evacuating their train, or if conditions are dire or need to happen quickly then to direct evacuations themselves immediately.
    Depending on the circumstances the confirmation the driver gets may be specific instructions from the control centre or simply a notice to all trains over the radio.
    Admittedly I believe some things changed on the more severe end of the earthquake spectrum after the 2011 Earthquake based on potential loss of communications. I think those might have been if communication is lost after a severe earthquake to follow any information they can find on the earthquake and any tsunami and expect a self supported evacuation. Drivers and conductors are expected to know what parts of the line lay in tsunami risk areas.
    Also if I am recalling correctly point 3 might have been introduced after the 2011 earthquake as well.

    There are also drills that occur each year where the emergency system is deliberately tripped during a normal day of operation. I believe drivers get warning that the system will be tripped that day but not when. Not sure if passengers get a warning. I have to assume so.

    So in the cases of the first three points there are very interesting situations to run into during a scenario. The service is recoverable and can continue with a new and interesting challenge to the driving situation.
     
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    I added the 'which new country you'd like to see added in TSW2' poll thread in the OP, so that enthusiasts of Japanese rail can contribute to that. If you haven't yet voted you can find it linked in the part about the first reason I created this list.
     
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    So I have a question to people who are familair with DtG/TSW2/TS licensing approach: does DtG hold licences for those, or do the rights belong to third-party devs who made the routes? If DtG decided to recreate the Japanese routes of Train Simulator in TSW2, would they need to get licensing for those routes again?
     
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    The Union Workshop routes on TS do not have any branding in them. (Note the lack of the JR logo)
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    I am aware, but doesn't licensing also concern other things? Otherwise we would have modern TS routes set in Japan with modern trains without logos.
     
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    Even then, I'm pretty sure its been stated that DTG themselves will not make an unbranded route for TSW2, leaving us with only hoping UW makes the jump at some point in the future. (Or DTG somehow secures a JR license.)
     
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    The keikyuu line is also really good and diverse. One of the best lines I have ever seen in my life.
     
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    I wanted to explore the possibility of suggesting the Sazanami limited express service, as it now has the refurbished E257-5000 EMUs, and locations of the route seem nice. Looks like the service uses Keiyō and Uchibō Lines, however the latter is too long, so the former is the only option. Does anyone have any links that show which stations on the Keiyō Line the Sazanami service uses? I don't even know if they could be used as natural points for starting/ending the service, but at least I would look the info up.

     
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    So I think I've collected as much info on the Keiyō Line as possible from a combination of partially outdated English-language sources and Japanese pages, however there's still one thing I'm confused about: I can't find mentions of freight services running on the line anywhere, but I see mentions saying it was originally opened as a freight-only line. Have freight services been removed by now? I can also see some photographs of freight consists at the Soga station, which is a terminus on the line, so not sure if they navigate from that terminus to other lines, or on the Keiyō Line itself. Can anyone clear this up?

    P.S. I've made a Wallpaper Engine item with a Sazanami service train video, so if any of you fans of Japanese rail use that app, you can take a look: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...m-for-enthusiasts-of-japanese-railways.45545/
     
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